We are new with very little experience but before we were aware of swinging I always had a feeling about my husbands former boss. It was the way he looked at me whenever we were at a company dinner. One time he asked hubby if he could kiss me. Now that I think about it I bet he was a swinger, and I just didn't know but there was a definate vibe with him. I didn't know the wife as well but she was always with him and knew what he was doing. The funny thing is I probably would have considered swinging with them if he had asked! I always thought he was hot!