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    Default Question about full swaps and MMF's

    This is another definition question.

    I know what a full swap is. Exchanging partners.
    So does a MMF sort of considered a full swap?

    I mean you have 'given' your wife/partner to the other male.
    It's just that you are in the action as well.

    Scott & JoAnn

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    I'm not sure how everyone else would define it but in our book this would be FS.

    Ms B
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    Ok, not trying to be rude but was wondering why everything has to be so defined. This is about having fun. Over thinking things and defining things does not make them anymore fun.
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    I would call it a threesome, or a cuckhold fantasy. I don't see any "swapping" going on.

    The way I understand it, when a couple adds a single male, it's technicaly an MMF, becuase in some way there's some MM action going on (not necessarily physical contact, but in the sense that each male gets some sort of "buzz" or whatever by the other male being there). When it just happens by accident that 2 guys and a woman are together(like for example if it started out as 2 couples, but one of the woman finished first and left the room) it would be an MFM.

    You can call it whatever you want as long as your both enjoying it.

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    Default Re: Question about full swaps and MMF's

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasLee View Post
    Ok, not trying to be rude but was wondering why everything has to be so defined. This is about having fun. Over thinking things and defining things does not make them anymore fun.
    Don't think you are being rude.
    Anyway, I was just wondering because we've been asked in emails if we fully swap. I answered no, not yet, but then got to thinking that since we've done the MMF thing, it sure seems like a full swap. Afterall she was getting fully fucked by the other guy and he did have an orgasm while fucking. I was there as 'support' for her and she was sucking on me, but still it was full on intercourse between the two of them.

    I just am still trying to figure out the definitions...

    Scott & JoAnn

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    Default Re: Question about full swaps and MMF's

    Perhaps instead of using the term full swap you could use the term "full contact" .

    Also, since the topic of terms has been brought up I never use the term "exchanging partners" and I have never nor will I ever "give" my wife to anyone else. Neither of us are garden tools that we just loan out or exchange however we see fit.

    If we have an MFM I do not give my wife to another man. We have a maritial sexual encounter as a couple and she gets to enjoy the company of an extra man during it. It is about her getting extra attention and not about me giving her to some other guy.

    I know that is a bit of a hijack and not either here nor there but the term "giving wives" is like fingernails on chalkboards to me. Sorrry for the distraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott & JoAnn View Post

    I just am still trying to figure out the definitions...

    This link might help with some of your questions.

    Generally, MFM or MMF (which ever way you want to type it, it still means the same, two men and one woman, IMO) is considered a threesome, where as a full swap is generally considered two couples exchanging partners, both male and female halves of the couple are fucking someone other than their SO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    This link might help with some of your questions.

    Generally, MFM or MMF (which ever way you want to type it, it still means the same, two men and one woman, IMO) is considered a threesome, where as a full swap is generally considered two couples exchanging partners, both male and female halves of the couple are fucking someone other than their SO.

    Teresa

    So technically, she has fully swapped by being fucked by another guy in the MFM scenario, but I have not.

    Anyway, thanks all for the info.
    We are new and learning.

    Scott & JoAnn

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasLee View Post
    Ok, not trying to be rude but was wondering why everything has to be so defined. This is about having fun. Over thinking things and defining things does not make them anymore fun.
    That would depend on your individual definition of over thinking & defining. I have been accused of over thinking and don't neccesarily deny that I may be guilty. Personally I have more fun when things are clearly defined for me and I feel I am aware of the full picture.

    I can understand where for some this may be a turn off but for me it's a greater turn on.

    Ms B
    I'm not as easy as you think I am but not as difficult as you're making me out to be.

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    Default Re: Question about full swaps and MMF's

    I always thought that "full swap" refers to having "full" intercourse, while "soft swap" may be oral, fondling, etc., but not intercourse. So it's a different category...you might soft or full swap with another couple or a MMF.

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    Default Re: Question about full swaps and MMF's

    I think daily use of the term "full swap" has spawned a new meaning. It has become an accepted way of conveying the thought of nonmonogamous penile-vaginal intercourse. So, I think in that context, she has full swapped and you haven't - but that statement just doesn't sound right. I see an MFM encounter as totally different from a couple swap and I think that's where the meaning of full swap looses something in the translation.

    I think it's a good idea to eventually migrate the conversation to some graphic dirty talk - it helps build the mood and it's less ambiguous about the acceptable activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott & JoAnn View Post
    So technically, she has fully swapped by being fucked by another guy in the MFM scenario, but I have not.

    Anyway, thanks all for the info.
    We are new and learning.

    Scott & JoAnn
    Okay, here is my thoughts on this and you are getting what you paid for so don't bite my head off, please.

    MFM is with the woman in the middle gettting all the attention, and is usually considered a straight 3some.

    MMF is considered a Bisexual 3some, where there is a man in the middle getting the extra attention from the other two, possible with the males swapping out and the female fitting in whereever she wants or can.

    But as earlier stated most swingers consider full-swap to be 2 couples sharing each others partners. The next question would be whether it is same-room or seperate rooms?

    But it all boils down to what you and your wife are comfortable doing, so go slow and make sure you honestly communicate with each other and enjoy yourselves!

    Just my 3 cents worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socolais View Post
    I see an MFM encounter as totally different from a couple swap and I think that's where the meaning of full swap looses something in the translation.

    I think it's a good idea to eventually migrate the conversation to some graphic dirty talk - it helps build the mood and it's less ambiguous about the acceptable activities.
    Agree. MFM, in the case of a married couple who invites another man to the bedroom falls into the category of "wife has sex with other men". Nothing wrong with that -- in fact, just the opposite. There is nothing more erotic than seeing your wife on her back, legs in the air, with another man's hard cock pleasuring her.

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    It is also possible to have a "Soft MFM". We've had a couple of great MFMs where only the wife and I had intercourse, and she took care of him in other ways. She was still the main focus.

    And some of you thought the swinger dictionary was full! LOL

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    Default Re: Question about full swaps and MMF's

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott & JoAnn View Post
    This is another definition question.

    I know what a full swap is. Exchanging partners.
    So does a MMF sort of considered a full swap?

    I mean you have 'given' your wife/partner to the other male.
    It's just that you are in the action as well.

    Scott & JoAnn
    That would be called "HS" (Husband Swapping)

    In the case of MMF, full swap would apply.....but applied to a MFMF in this MMF application, it's not a full swap. Fit it to your application.
    If you want something you have never had before, you must do something you have never done before.

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    Default Re: Question about full swaps and MMF's

    I always considered full swap as meaning that you will have intercourse with the other person. So, if your wife is having sex with the other man, I'd consider that full swap. If she is only going down on him, then I'd consider it soft swap.

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    Default Re: Question about full swaps and MMF's

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott & JoAnn View Post
    This is another definition question.

    I know what a full swap is. Exchanging partners.
    So does a MMF sort of considered a full swap?

    I mean you have 'given' your wife/partner to the other male.
    It's just that you are in the action as well.

    Scott & JoAnn
    I always considered it more of sharing, or borrowing.

    But to your point, if there is penetration, I would put it in the same camp as full swap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasLee View Post
    Ok, not trying to be rude but was wondering why everything has to be so defined. This is about having fun. Over thinking things and defining things does not make them anymore fun.
    I agree with lee ..why try to define everything ...just enjoy !

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    Default Re: Question about full swaps and MMF's

    I agree defining things can be a pain, and I wish everyone could not care about it, but...

    having some sort of definition is helpful if, for example you're like me and not interested in only engaging in oral, etc. but rather would like full intercourse. So, at least at some level, things like soft swap vs. full swap are helpful terms

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