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  1. We got into it via a FMF and then later, with the other girl's boyfriend involved. I was very nervous about what might happen that night, as the three of them had all played together prior to our marriage. I felt like my heart was going to beat out of my chest as things got started. At the time, I thought it might be jealousy, but after everything happened (which only amounted to the girls playing for our entertainment, then having sex with our own partners) I felt disappointed that nothing had happened between Dawn and the other guy. We talked about it in bed for several weeks, then the opportunity came up for the 4 of us to play again. While it was only a soft-swap situation that night, I felt more at ease after watching Dawn sucking another guy. We had a couple more sessions with them, but now exclusively do MFM. I don't feel any anxiety about it at all, even during the times when Dawn is playing with her partner alone. We have this tremendous trust thing going on, and that's all I need. I've watched Dawn commit just about every kind of sex act with other guys and it still turns me on to this day!
  2. Dawn and I have a definite "no condom" rule for our partners. But, some explanation is in order. First, we have never, and will never do the party scene. We only engage in intimate acts with select males with whom we wish to pursue a somewhat long-term play relationship. This includes a "getting to know you" period of time where we discuss all things, both sexually and otherwise, to get a feel if this person is worthy of our trust. Then we'll proceed to some "soft swap" type activities. We have taken precautions against pregnancy, and since AIDS/HIV is probably the biggest fear of many people, we insist that a potential playmate who is willing to commit to only playing with Dawn alone or with us together to get a cheap $50K term life insurance policy from our agent, which includes a HIV test. Once they provide us with the declarations page of the policy, we'll drop the kissing and oral sex for full blown intercourse, complete with creampies. Dawn won't have it any other way, as she gets off SO much on feeling a guy squirt inside her (as do I watching it :-) . I realize we are definitely not the norm, but that's how we roll.
  3. Yes, been that way my whole sexual life. Sometimes a woman has taken it too personally, but I just have to reassure her it's me, not her. Dawn is so used to it that it's a non-issue for us anymore. When she's ready for my load, she just lies back and lets me masturbate into her mouth. Maybe once a year I'll cum with just her sucking, and we've yet to figure out any pattern. I wouldn't worry about it.
  4. I'd like to know how you think this is trying to "trick" someone. I do ask. It's just not a topic that is discussed before hand. As you said, you would say no, and that should be respected. But no one we've been with has ever said no. So just how were they "tricked"?
  5. Perhaps you need to bring it up like I do. I don't discuss it before hand, but the first time we are with a new M partner, while he's inside Dawn, I'll ask them if they want me to go down on her. Of course, she ALWAYS says yes, and the other guy agrees just to go with the flow and keep the motion going. Once I'm down there, I've yet to have any of them complain. The couple of ones who have gone down on Dawn while I'm inside her didn't seem to have any problems with their tongues touching me. Both did so without even asking, which was fine with us. Our last long term partner (one of the two with whom I've 69'ed with in front of Dawn) actually sucked me for a few seconds after I popped out of her, before putting it back in. It drove Dawn crazy wild! But I've never been able to cum with a guy sucking me. I don't think it's a issue about guys, because as well as Dawn sucks, I rarely cum with her sucking me, either. I usually have to masturbate into her mouth. But our last partner let loose in my mouth one of the last times we were together, and I snowballed Dawn, giving her the entire load. It didn't taste too bad, I just didn't want to swallow it.
  6. I've never really considered myself "bi-sexual", even though I've participated in activities which could commonly be associated with bi- or homosexuality. I really never could stomach the thought of me and another guy having a sexual relationship alone, by ourselves, but when I've been with Dawn and our male partners, I've almost always gone down on her while the other M was inside her. As a result, I've frequently licked the shaft and head of the other M's penis, licked and played with his balls, have re-inserted him after he's popped out of her, sometimes giving him a few strokes before putting it back in, and have licked my fair share of semen from Dawn. I've also been snowballed by Dawn many times after she's given the other guy head and watched her snowball a couple of our M partners with my sperm. I've helped Dawn wash our M partners in the shower and have been washed by Dawn and our partners. And at Dawn's urging, a couple of us have engaged in mutual fellatio several times while Dawn watched and masturbated. The way I "rationalize" it (for lack of a better word) is I'm not trying to get the other guy off, we're just helping Dawn to get off. But beyond that, I've had no interest in the other males' bodies. Dawn likes to lick and bite nipples, I won't go there. I love having it done by Dawn, but I won't do it to a male. I also leave all the anal play to Dawn when she feels like it, I won't go there either.
  7. Since we now only play MMF with a long term partner, I'd say anything that strays from that would be "bed hopping" for us.
  8. I always considered it more of sharing, or borrowing. But to your point, if there is penetration, I would put it in the same camp as full swap.
  9. So what is wrong with asking him if it's OK is it goes beyond "just making out," and it's OK if he walks in and "catches" you? Maybe, but you don't buy the cake just to get the icing. Something tells me if they had wanted to get together by themselves, they would have done so by now. In the framework of a threesome, I'd think of it as just a happy side benefit of the relationship. You'll never know until it happens. Have you asked your b/f what he expects will come out of the situation? I certainly wouldn't discourage it. Then please don't tell him you do. It just sets up false expectations. Be honest with him about your feelings. Now, was it to have sex with the friend, or your b/f and the friend? You'll have to ask him. Dawn and our M play by themselves all the time. I don't need to know when it happens, as I trust both of them, especially Dawn. We've dealt with our insecurities years ago, so trust isn't an issue with us now. But your statements make me wonder what you are looking for out of the relationship. To me, it sounds like you enjoy your boyfriend for the person he is, but just love the other guy's dick. So what exactly is it you want your b/f to 'see'? Me:) I've done stuff like that with Dawn and the other M's we've been with previously. I don't consider Dawn a "slut". She's just a very beautiful woman whom I love deeply. She just has a lot to offer a man, and I just enjoy showing her off and sharing. Our first few times with a new M are usually "getting to know her" sessions where I get to show him everything she likes and everywhere she likes it, in quite explicit detail. This is where I'll state the "be honest about your feelings with your b/f" part again. Sounds like what we have, a live-in (basically) M who is our only playmate. He rents the mother-in-law apartment above our agrage and it works out great for all of us. I know previous history tells us he'll move on one day, but we'll just begin our search for a new play partner soon after. Your relationship seems to rely too heavy on code words/phrases, which may or may not mean what you/he think they mean. You need to talk honestly with the b/f. Either or both. You won't know until you ask. Hopefully he'll be honest about his feelings. Not usual, but IMO, not abnormal. The biggest issue I see here is (drum roll please) the lack of honesty about true feelings. We wouldn't have our situation any other way, but we certainly can't say it's for everyone. My gut feeling on this one says be wary of the situation, because there's a huge possibility of entanglement and hurt feelings because honest feelings aren't being discussed between the parties involved.
  10. Probably not. You said the guy takes Viagra. You think there might be a reason *why* he does? And without knowing his medical history, perhaps anticipatory stress is his issue. I've had the problem a few times years back when I was in my 20's when we were with someone we had played with numerous times before with no problems. Thinking back to those times, something about the situations (follow close here because it might make no sense at first) were almost too erotic to think about, like new things we were going to try, so the stress and nervousness about finally getting to do something I always wanted to try left me at less than full staff. I got over it, as did Dawn and her g/f. It would seem not so much selfish, but so non-spontaneous. I can understand why you hate that option. I would, too. Maybe it's time to stop swinging *with them* for a while. Well, as I've already related my prior failures in this area, I think it can be safely said it can happen and not really be anyone's fault. Now, by our choice, we now only play MFM, so my arousal isn't near the issue it used to be. Even in the rare event when I'm not feeling aroused, a peek into the bedroom while Dawn and our playmate are involved will usually put me there.
  11. For us the benefits are numerous. First, we have a steady M parter we play with. Dawn is in her sexual prime, and sometimes I don't feel like I can keep up with her all the time. But many times when I don't really feel like doing anything, and Dawn and our partner do, I let them go for a few minutes and then walk in on them, and most times that's enough to get my wick started, if you know what I mean. And the times when I'm not home and Dawn needs fulfilling, I know there's someone I trust there who can give her what she needs. When Dawn and I are together alone, both our orgasms are still as intense and as frequent as when we first married. And when all three of us play together, we get to do certain things that two people can't do by themselves.
  12. If it were me, I'd drop the subject entirely. If she really wants to pursue it, let her bring it up next time. It really sounds like she's feeling a bit of pressure.
  13. The only real bi- activity I've been involved in is some incidental sucking and licking while paying with Dawn, mainly due to the proximity of their cocks to Dawn's pussy. Then there's countless creampies both with and without the other male present. Only 2 other guys got into eating my creampies out of her, but never expressed any desire with further activity with me. I'm not really into the penile/anal penatration thing, although Dawn and I both do digital-anal penetration and rimming on each other.
  14. Dawn and I have had sex on a beach twice. Somehow, we've not been able to pull that off with any of our play partners. That's something I'd presonally like to do, the three of us on a beach.
  15. While I consider mine to be above average, Dawn keeps me and our fulltime play parter David satisfied and then some. On many occasions, I've come home to find out Dawn and David have played two or three times together during the day, then she wants to play with me (and sometimes with him again) that evening. I think we gave her about 25-30 orgasms one Saturday afternoon, probably the only time we actually wore *her* out. It's nice knowing there's someone there younger than me to keep her sexually satisfied when I'm not there, or too tired. And somehow, that knowledge helps keep me revved up more than I would be without him around.
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