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  1. Clarence Carter - Strokin'
  2. If 30 is the minimum number then obviously 22 falls below that number. Whatever the minimum, common sense will tell you that 22 bisexual men recruited from Gay clubs in Chicago is too small a number to take this study seriously. *** Whether or not Bailey is a respected sex researcher is open to question. Here are some comments I got on the internet. Bailey is probably most well known for his book, 2003 book, The Man Who Would Be Queen: The Science of Gender-Bending and Transsexualism. To me, this work makes “Sexual Arousal Patterns of Bisexual Men” look like “The Origin of Species.” The book has no footnotes, no surveys, and no statistics, and was built on anecdotal observation of a small handful of people who are transgender. According to Lynn Conway (a transgender activist who has dedicated herself to debunking the book), “…the [book] simply pronounced as a scientific fact that postoperative transsexual women are either (i) effeminate gay men who underwent ‘sex changes’ in order to have sex with lots of men, or else they are (ii) sexual paraphilic males who ‘changed sex’ for bizarre autosexual reasons.” Attacks against Bailey have been blistering. In a review at the web site for the National Association for Research and Therapy in Homosexuality, A. Dean Byrd, Ph.D., MBA, MPH states, “J. Michael Bailey has been accused of having sex with a research subject. His own sexuality has been questioned—he is a divorced father of two who frequents gay bars for the purpose of doing ‘research.’ He has been accused of failing to obtain the informed consent of research subjects. Formal charges have been filed with Northwestern University against him over this.” Northwestern did scrutinize him and his work, but has not released the results of the investigation. However, in October 2004, Bailey resigned as Chair of the Psychology Department. It would be hard to imagine the two are unrelated *** The data is not conclusive and is a matter of interpretation. I would argue that the difference in the subjective responses, obtained by the use of a lever and which showed a distinct bisexual pattern, and the penis meter responses really indicated that the penis meter responses were invalid. The fact that so many men had to be eliminated from the study is a pretty strong clue in itself. In my experience people usually don't lie. Some do obviously, but In a serious situation such as a courtroom or a study like this people tend to tell the truth. Did the straight man who showed a distinctly bisexual pattern lie? I doubt it. Did the two gay men who showed a heterosexual arousal pattern or the gay man who showed a bisexual arousal pattern lie? I doubt it. Bailey interpreted it his way because that was what he was trying to prove. *** Straight men in the swinging community probably love this study. There are no bisexual men, but all women are bisexual. Women are encouraged and even expected to be bisexual. The men like to watch but more importantly it allows them to have sex with women they wouldn't otherwise be able to. *** I am not a sex researcher so my experiences are purely anecdotal but here are a few comments from academics and professionals. "I have seen in my practice very, very, very many men who are bisexual," Weitzman tells WebMD. "Really, there are so many bisexual men out there. There are so many men who say — and demonstrate — that they love men and love women and are happy with it." Rieger and Bailey are looking in the wrong place for men's sexual identities, says Sheeri Kritzer, a Bisexual Resource Center board member. Identity, she says, comes from above the ears, not below the belt. "The whole point of sexual identity is it is a validation of who you are," Kritzer tells WebMD. "This study perpetuates the idea that men are studs, that they go with whatever turns them on. It goes on the old stereotype that men think with their [penises]." Sexologist Paula Rodriguez Rust, PhD, is the editor of the 1999 book "Bisexuality in the United States." She says a person's sexual orientation is not determined merely by genital arousal. "Sexual response is not everything we think of when we think of sexual orientation," Rodriguez Rust tells WebMD. "Bisexuality clearly exists." *** The reliability of the penis meter is also questionable. I concede this to be a minor point but evidence obtained using the the plethysmograph – which measures blood flow to the penis is apparently not admissable as evidence in US courts (although the mind boggles as to what it would be needed for). *** Bailey's study is shaky science at best, if at all. I would even say the field of Psychology itself is shaky science. Sounds like it could be a good game though. Do a study that doesn't take much effort, create a controversy and then write a book. Wonder if he will do that? Could help pay the rent. I really think Bailey has wandered down the wrong hallway. He needs to do his measuring between the ears and not between the legs.
  3. That is very interesting . I am also ambidextrous and my male friend is also. So I guess we're a population of 3, at least.
  4. That doesn't alter the fact that the study group was much too small to be of any value Relevance? Yes I was being cute, but the results showed just what I said. Scattershot and inconclusive. There were no women included in the study. Only men. Some of the criticism is indeed personal but the bulk of it is scientific. Method of selection, number of subjects, criteria used, the flat assumption that for men response is orientation, the basic validity of the study since so many men failed to respond at all, etc., etc.. Even the penis meter is not considered a scientific instrument. Someone does a study, someone else comes along and tests the hypothesis. In my opinion this study fails the test. I think I'll just leave this one alone.
  5. LOL! The Bailey study is so flawed as to almost be a joke. I tried to copy and paste some of the problems but there is such a volume that I gave up. I'll try to summarize. The Bi volunteers were recruited by an ad in a Gay male publication distributed in Gay clubs around the Chicago area. Self selection and the fact that men who hang out in Gay clubs are usually toward the Gay side of the spectrum are issues here. The criteria used was porn videos. The subjects were shown a 10 minute non sexual film then 2 videos showing Female to Female sex then 2 videos showing Male to Male sex. To me this disqualifies the study as scientific research off the bat. What if it was bad porn? What if the actors were unattactive. What if the volunteers were conditioned to enjoy Male/Female porn. What if they were just not aroused by porn. That's pretty much what happened. 1/3 of all men couldn't respond at all. If response is orientation as you quote Bailey as saying, then the results of the study should have been "1/3 of all men are ASEXUAL!" That left about 65 men, 22 of which identified as bisexual, a pretty small group to come to any kind of scientific conclusion. Sexual orientation was determined by their ranking themselves on a Kinsey Sexual Attraction Scale, with zero being heterosexual and six homosexual. Bailey decided that everyone ranked greater than one and less than five was bisexual. ”Looking at the group that Bailey calls “bisexual,” it appears there were men spread across the scale, from a Kinsey 1.5 to 4.5. What were the results? In fact, the lower the number, the more they leaned toward being measurably aroused by the sexual films featuring two women, and the higher the number the more they leaned toward films featuring two men. One would think that to be the expected outcome. So why the headlines then? The self-assessment of arousal showed the expected bisexual pattern, meaning what the men felt differed from what the penis meter detected. Perhaps instead of deciding that “bisexual” men weren’t self-aware enough to know how they feel, the researchers need to re-examine assumptions about expected sexual response to stimuli. Interestingly enough, 1 of the straight men and 1 of the Gay men showed an almost equal response pattern and a few of the Gay men showed a Bisexual response pattern. The study actually showed that about 12% (3 of 25) of Gay men are actually bisexual and also that a small percentage of straight men are also bisexual. That is if you accept its validity. Something else that is discussed in the study but not included as part of the results, is that to some degree most of the men in the study were aroused by all of the sexual content. According to Bailey, “This suggests that most men may possess a certain capacity for bisexual arousal, although the magnitude of this arousal is quite modest.” Maybe the headline should read, “All Men Are, to Some Degree, Bisexual, Study Finds.” Whew...Rick
  6. I'm not sure what 'evolutionary sociobiology' is but as a bi male who has self analyzed all my life you are dead wrong. I agree that women are more comfortable with their sexuality for several reasons, including not having their minds fucked up by High School locker room talk but if a reliable survey was taken I think you'd find there are just as many truely bisexual men as there are bisexual women. Probably to the Nth degree. I myself am one and I know how I feel. I also have a close male friend who is the same way, and we entertain my(our) girlfriend pretty regularly. He definitely goes both ways and loves it as I do. I have met many other men who are the same way. Everyone sees the world though their own eyes and I think many, including you and also the person who started this thread, fall into the trap of thinking that everyone is like themselves.
  7. I hear Pfizer is now coming out with a liquid form of Viagra and Pepsi is going to mix it in one of their drinks. You' ll literally be able to pour yourself a 'stiff' one. Since it can't be classified as a 'soft' drink they're going to market it as a power cola and call it 'Mount & Do'. Gives new meaning to the term 'cock'tails and hi'balls'.
  8. Hi corynlaine, Two (or more) both bi couples can have a lot of fun. Clubs may not be the way to go but you don't need clubs. The Internet is bringing more and more bi couples together and there are web sites where you can find couples. Once you find one, they know others who know others etc. and pretty soon you have a network. Good Luck... Rick Oh I forgot. Be honest and play safe.
  9. Dr Ziggy, The most surprising thing in your survey, to me at least, was that 20% of the men identified as bisexual. Am I reading that right? I think most people realize that there are closeted bisexual men in the swinging community but that's a pretty high number and surprised even me. Do you think that's a correct figure or maybe skewed in some way perhaps by the way you gathered your participants or respondants treating the survey as entertainment and entering flippant answers or just plain out lying.
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  11. Why is it important? Quit fuckin' buggin' her and let her be herself!!!!!!
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