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viajero

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  1. That last three post say quite a bit about where my thinking is. If an activity is taboo then most people will do a pretty good job of hiding their interest in the activity. So to those not into it, it seems like they are a tiny minority. For those interested, they either suffer in the closet or they seek out companions. Then they become surprised at how many more people there are that share their interest. I have met so many men who didn't have their first homosexual experience until late in life. These men always thought of themselves as straight and I can't think of any that would seek a relationship with a man. In most cases their first MM activity was in the context of swinging. Swinging with the right people creates a very safe means to explore a curiosity. I've even heard the reverse of this situation. A gay guy told me once that he goes to gay bars with a female friend and she often gets hit on by bi guys. A lot of gay men are convinced that bisexuality doesn't exist. There are straight men, gay men and closeted gay men is all they see. No one needs to convince me that the majority of men are heterosexual and not at all curious. However, it is my theory that bi men out number gay men at least 3 to one possibly even more. When I seek having sex with a guy just to get my rocks off I seem to meet 3 or 4 bi guys to every one gay one. I've never sought out swingers but I've been offered the opportunity to swing on two different occasions. Also when I get a gay men to open up about his sexual feelings many times a few admit that they do, on occasion, and would sleep with women but they don't want to lead one on and get in a relationship. So while a survey may find that gay/bi men are 3 to 7% of the population that includes all the prudes and celibate members of society who if they had any bi inclinations would never admit it to themselves much less anyone else. It also includes people who are strictly monogamous and would never think of having sex with anyone but their spouse. Now if you took a poll of the more sexual adventurous members of society I would expect that figure would naturally rise substantially. That is why I made the poll. I was curious if a man on woman could see themselves as completely straight before swinging and then find they enjoy a same sex experience. It wouldn't take away from their attraction to the opposite sex but it might make them realize they are not so purely straight.
  2. I was looking at three polls on this site. One was the Kinsey scale for all males where 15% said they were bisexual and another 32% would put themselves as a 4 (incidental M/M activity). The other was on a poll for men and women about their feelings on M/M activity. This could have the bias you say in which more bisexual males respond but it surprised me that 40% of the males who responded said they loved M/M activity. Then there is the preference of MFM over FMF 65% to 35%. I'm not sure what to make of that result. Now it could be bi-men are not inclined to go to swingers clubs or would play it very straight knowing that the atmosphere is hostile to this M/M activity or that some couples could be. In fact most swingers club have restrictions or make it very difficult for single men so any bi men would have to be part of a couple. I've read here that many bi-men who swing keep it on the down low even on the internet. So it could be that this particular board attracts a lot of bi-men that do not go to clubs but would love the idea of swinging.
  3. So I have noticed from other polls on this site that the incident of bisexual behavior is far higher than any mainstream polls taken. I have two theories as to why this may be. One is that bisexuals are more inclined to swing. The second is that a swinger who identifies as straight is more likely to explore same sex behavior. I expect there is a combination of both occurring. I plan on doing one poll for men and one for women. This poll is for men only. Due to the taboo of bisexual men that doesn’t exist for women I’m curious to see how different the results will be. Choose one of the first two options only if you have no interest in any future same sex activity. Choose any of the other three if you are open to further same sex activity. After reading other forums I should have used heteroflexible a term some like. I would put heteroflexible and Bicurious as pretty close together so you can choose 3 for that option.
  4. It seems to make sense that a lot of single male swingers would be secretly bi. If you were single shouldn't you be spending your time looking for a new girlfriend first rather than chasing couples? I understand a straight guy needing a break from the dating scene and jumping at the chance to swing but I expect his preference would be a bisexual female couple. If a guy is perpetually single and only swings you have to wonder don't you? There are clearly many gay and bi men in South Florida but I feel that has more to do with the open sexual culture than anything else. As people become more open sexually they are more likely to act on their curiosities. Also I think Latin men have a less prudish attitude towards sex than most Americans. There is the attitude that any hole will do.
  5. Hi folks, I've been lurking for ages now and never pipe up for any discussion. I love your openness to the subject of sex. I’d like to set things straight or gay or bi about this subject since I’ve read extensively about it. First of all for all the straight men I will say yes there are guys who are all straight. I expect my dad, my brother and my brother-in-laws all fall into that category. I on the other hand do not. I prefer men but lately I’ve been thinking that the ultimate sexual experience would be to do a woman while sucking a man. Now you have to understand that I’ve been almost exclusively gay since I slept with a stunning Brazilian model about 20 years ago and I couldn’t get hard. I had tons of opportunities with very attractive woman and turn them all down. Yet, when I started to get to know a few swingers I started having sexual dreams about woman again. The real thought that turned me on were women who were turned on by guys going at it. Once I realized women could get turned on by who I am it the bi fantasies started to crop up again. Meanwhile I’ve always walked a thin line between the straight and gay world. I’ve had lots of straight male friends who have openly discussed whatever sexual desire they might have. I’ve also found myself having sex with guys who I thought were all straight. I even found many gay men who admit that they would have sex with the right woman if the time were right. The more open people are sexual the more you find they will admit such things. I am not implying that everyone is a little bi. It is just that we constantly heterosexualize everything and bury any thing remotely bi. It is not just heterosexual but many homosexuals who are guilty of this. I’m not talking about homophobia or biphobia, I’m talking about everyone assuming that anyone who is not like them must be a freak. I’ve come to the conclusion that there is a homo and hetero erotic component to most (not all) people’s sexuality. For the majority the hetero component dominates. But the stats we see are wrong. If people were open sexual we would probably find at least 50% had some curiosity about the same sex. This seems to be what the results of this poll shows, and most of you are heterosexual. Forgive the gay men who think everyone has a little homo in them. I know without doubt the vast majority of men are either all straight or their bi tendencies are so minor it only comes out in their dream. But I also know that there are far more closet cases anyone can imagine. You guys are great because you talk and explore. I just moved from Miami(where I met swingers for the first time) to a small southern city and let me tell you, it ain’t like that in the bible-belt. Here the effeminate guys are made fun of and the rest marry. Many of the latter cheat on their wives with guys later in life. I’d have to say 8 out of 10 of the non-heterosexual men I meet here have kids either from a current or previous marriage. So yes there are plenty of red blooded heterosexual but there are also a number of closet cases. My guess is 10 to 20% of the population would be gay or bi in a sexual free society. perhaps another 10% or more would have some curiosities and then the curiosities become more and more minor as we move up the scale. 50 to 70 percent have no same sex curiosities and never will. This by the way is how most of your polls end up and I don’t expect any homosexuals participate. Actually I forgot the percent of asexuals. They are presumed to be hetero but sometimes you get the impression most Americans don’t even like sex. Take care all and have an erotic time.
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