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Ever tempted to get pregnant on purpose when swinging?

Ever tempted to get pregnant on purpose when swinging?  

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  1. 1. Ever tempted to get pregnant on purpose when swinging?

    • never!
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    • tempting idea, but never considered it
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    • considered to do it
      8
    • actually tried it
      7
    • actually tried it and succeeded
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Hi again,

 

Just some hours ago, i posted a question on preventing pregnancy when swinging. Got the hint to search the old posts for this topic and I found lots of information.

 

What surprised me most is that there are some swinger actually thinking about or playing with the risk to become pregnant with a swinging partner. I have to admit that it is a naughty and somehow tempting idea to play the real game, but I think I will never consider doing this. Until now I thought of swinging as only fun...

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Never.

A swinger baby would not be a good thing.:nono:

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Never here, either. There is too much at risk to even consider that and deception alone is only the beginning...

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I actually heard of this happening the woman who was married by the way intentionally got preg by a swing parter......Last I heard she was asking him for support and such after tricking him.......she told him she couldn't get preg

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I believe that anyone that would even consider something like this has no business in the lifestyle or swinging at all.

 

They are not mature and to even consider this shows they are not responsible.

 

Someone that would play with lives like this needs some serious help.

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Originally posted by VegasLee

I believe that anyone that would even consider something like this has no business in the lifestyle or swinging at all.

 

They are not mature and to even consider this shows they are not responsible.

 

Someone that would play with lives like this needs some serious help.

 

I believe anyone who would deliberately get pregnant without the partners consent (assuming we are talking about non-consent) is not mature enough to even be having sex. Period.

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Let me start off by saying, we don't condone this behavior. If this is how you feel, then we think that you should talk with your SO about it before you swing again. Who knows, you may find your SO finds it arousing too. You may even find someone else who feels the same, but please be honest with them. Not being honest and forthright about your desires, to the other person(s), is wrong. Particularly if your intent is extortion, which would make you a criminal.

 

I believe that, for every vice, there are people who find that very thing arousing. As vices go, though, this one is rather exotic. We all know that breeding with the healthiest and most attractive mate we can is one of the core drives our bodies have. Therefore, I can see where a person would be tempted when they find a person, through swinging, that has a quality they feel their SO lacks. I can also see where someone would be tempted by the "naughty factor". We probably all know someone that craves attention and/or desires being the center of controversy. What would you do/think if you saw a white mother with a mixed child if you knew her husband, of many years, was white also? Look? Gossip? Both? Some people like that...

 

I tried to not to be gender specific, since it could go either way, but I would suspect that women feel this way more. Some guys may get off on the thought too, though.

 

Personally, we would never do anything like this while swinging. If we want to make babies, we can just go home and role play until the swelling starts.

 

Is there any other factor/reason I missed?

 

PS - I am not a psychoanalyst, but I play one on the internet... :)

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On top of all the other potential pitfalls, the possibility that there might actually be such people out there is enough to make a person decide to stop swinging and take up something more secure . . . like blindfolded rock climbing.

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Originally posted by Brit_Pair

On top of all the other potential pitfalls, the possibility that there might actually be such people out there is enough to make a person decide to stop swinging and take up something more secure . . . like blindfolded rock climbing.

 

They are out there, and on this board too........

 

Search our posts if you feel the need to know more

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Well, it's not surprising how this poll is going.

 

Anyone doing this for extortion (child support) should be in gaol. The only one I know who did, is my brother's ex-girlfriend. That story is unfolding daily.

 

To do such a thing for a thrill is unbalanced, at best.

 

The only scenario where I might condone getting pregnant intentionally while swinging would be if the husband of a couple were sterile and the couple wanted to have a child. In this case, they should talk it out with the "donor couple" first. Whatever the four decided would be okay with me.

 

I can see, if the couples were close, perhaps polyamory, there could be a lot of good feelings among all four.

 

Still, it would probably be a can of worms and a sperm bank would be a better option.

 

We quit swinging during the time we were having children.

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We already have 2 wonderful children, and don't want any other kids. I(the male) don't want to get a summons one day for a child support hearing! The lifestyle is no place to be playing games! Guys....provide your own condoms!!!!! Protect yourself as well as your SO. If any of you are wanting to try this kind of thing...SHAME ON YOU!!!!!

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Ever tempted to get pregnant on purpose when swinging?

 

The OP didn't ask whether anyone had attempted to do so secretly or with malice aforethought. Just simply "ever tempted to get pregnant on purpose"?

 

The question doesn't assume any malice or alterior motives or even deception. Yet, the replies each assume that there is a hidden agenda amongst anyone who would think of such a thing and that anyone that would consider this is somehow a terrible person == isn't this a bit judgemental from a sector that is known to be reasonably nonjudgmental?

 

Let me ask this -- let's say that you couldn't conceive with your SO and you had decided you wanted children. Let's say too that one option were artificial insemination. Is it such a far leap to consider non-artificial insemination with a willing playmate?

 

What if there were three-way approval of the idea of selective impregnation? Can we say that there are no advantages to the concept?

 

What if the couple in question enjoys a fantasy that involves relationship external impregnation -- are they somehow wrong? Any more than couples that enjoy the fantasy of multi-partner intimate relations? I've read that quite a few women enjoy that fantasy as do their husbands.

 

And, in some communities in the US (particularly in the south) -- selective breeding (aka non-paternity event, aka getting "knocked up by a lover") is not all that uncommon among the general population. A simple review of some family line genealogical DNA results will prove that non-paternity events are fairly common in many communities.

 

I'm reminded of a joke with the punch line "don't worry Suzy, you ain't no kin to pappy noways"

 

So, for the guys reading out there -- she knows that she's the mom, are you 100% sure that your the bio-dad? :):lol:

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The legal and moral ramifications are enormous, we can't fathom who would ever consider this type of behavior.

 

Rampant behavior like this could only lead to a worldwide game of "Who's Your Daddy?"

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The thought is enough to scare the crap out of you...

 

Count us in as a NEVER

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What if there were three-way approval of the idea of selective impregnation? Can we say that there are no advantages to the concept?

 

No, can't say it is far fetched. However if those parties involved do not involve an attorney and make clear as to who is what and the issues surrounding raising the child, limitations, visitation, etc...they are opening themselves to a HUGE can of spiney worms. Artificial insemination would not only be cheaper, but less of a potential heart/headache.

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True that the OP didn't post the involvement of malice, etc., but since the majority of us assumed that to be the case, and since it would be rather unusual for swing partners to decide to use some poor innocent man as an "artificial inseminator" I think we are all talking about the same thing.

 

If ALL parties agreed and are willing for the pregnancy to occur, so be it. That's between them. But without the approval of all, it is a can of worms I would never want to be a part of. And what about the ultimate welfare of that child. A few months (years?) back there was a heart-wrenching thing on TV where the natural father (I think) claimed an adopted child and won the court battles. This pregnancy thing could present similar scenarios down the road. Not to mention...doesn't a father have a right to know he sired a child?

 

Lots of scenarios I suppose, but again with the assumption that the woman wants to become pregnant and uses the male swing partner without his knowledge or approval to achieve that goal. Despicable, I think.

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Here, let me think about this one for a second...o.k. done.

 

Nope, never, can't even picture the idea in my head. Can't even find the thought in there. I'm not even wanting to know that someone one would think it. :sad:

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NOPE NEVER!!! We take extra percautions against this....besides my hubby being fixed i also use the pill cause ya know condoms can break! So both of us are double covered!

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I Have voted no. My husband at one point did talk about if we wanted anymore children or not...And said NO WAY! He is not able to have children...but I am..but I could never ever think about it at all.

 

We did have a scare not too long ago and I posted a question on it..ask opinions. NOTHING WAS DONE ON PURPOSE. It was just something that "happened". The condom broke and then I went nuts. I was two weeks late and I thought the worst. I went and had a pregnancy test and other tests done and thank god everything was ok. But no I couldn't think about that...TOO MUCH DRAMA!

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Originally posted by Triumphs:

 

"I believe that, for every vice, there are people who find that very thing arousing. As vices go, though, this one is rather exotic."

 

 

That would be correct. We (or rather I being the male half of this couple) get invitations to "breeding parties." For those of you who don't know what these parties are all about, the women who participate in these parties have bareback sex with men who understand that doing so MAY result in the woman getting pregnant (I use the word may because some of the women may or may not be on birth control. You're never sure). More often than not, these parties are interracial (read: Black males, white females. Being black, that's why I get invited). I also get invites from couples or females who want to sleep with me and want to make the experience more exciting by forgetting to take their pill. :eek:

 

Basically, these people are out there and there are more of them than you think.

 

(For the record, I've never gone to one of these parties and don't ever plan on it. Nor do I plan on playing with a couple or a female that wants to play in this way for a thrill.)

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It should also be noted that according to the book "Sperm Wars" By Robin Baker (a very interesting read by the way), that about 10% of all children do NOT have their fathers genes. Which means that the father is someone else.

 

Intentional or not, this does happen.

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Well, must admit...you could have blown me over with a feather, lovers. Had no idea such things took place. And I'll always wonder why.

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Originally posted by BettyAnnMBSC

The question doesn't assume any malice or ulterior motives or even deception. Yet, the replies each assume that there is a hidden agenda amongst anyone who would think of such a thing and that anyone that would consider this is somehow a terrible person == isn't this a bit judgemental from a sector that is known to be reasonably nonjudgmental?

 

Let me ask this -- let's say that you couldn't conceive with your SO and you had decided you wanted children. Let's say too that one option were artificial insemination. Is it such a far leap to consider non-artificial insemination with a willing playmate?

 

BettyAnnMBSC, I love your posts. You're so consistently down to earth and able to cut through BS, each one is a gem.

 

Even when I disagree with you--which is rare, and in this case I don't, because I'm in the minority and 100% on board with you--I respect where you're coming from, because you are objective and not afraid to take the minority position, no matter what the issue.

 

Rock on, girl!

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I can't believe somebody asked this question!

 

Of course not. But now I'm wondering how many swinging chicks there are out there!

 

:rofl:

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Originally posted by BettyAnnMBSC

The OP didn't ask whether anyone had attempted to do so secretly or with malice aforethought. Just simply "ever tempted to get pregnant on purpose"?

 

 The question doesn't assume any malice or ulterior motives or even deception. Yet, the replies each assume that there is a hidden agenda amongst anyone who would think of such a thing and that anyone that would consider this is somehow a terrible person == isn't this a bit judgemental from a sector that is known to be reasonably nonjudgmental?

 

I can't speak for the others who posted in a similar vein to myself, but I evidently didn't read the post in the same way you did. In fact, given your response, I challenged myself to go back, re-read the OP, and see if I had indeed reacted too hastily, or without seeing the deeper meaning. I still don't feel that I did.

 

Karen12345's choice of language - especially "I have to admit that it is a naughty and somehow tempting idea to play the real game"... tends to rule out the scenario you later invoked: childless couple, infertile male, insufficient cash. To my mind, it implied an element of deceit, which was what I took exception to. If a couple see a swinging partner as a solution to their infertility problem, that is of course their right - provided that the partner is fully aware of the goal and the possible implications.

 

And if that *was* the sort of issue Karen12345 wanted feedback on, then perhaps she should have made that a little more evident in her OP. Perhaps things will be resolved when she returns to the thread. In any event, given the majority's reaction - and knowing the quality of some of the people who make up that majority - I think it's harsh of you to play the 'judgemental' card.

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Hi again,

 

this poll and the postings are very interesting for me. Thanks for all the feedback. I would just like to make some points clear:

 

first of all my question was about temptation - many of the postings argue with consequences (financial, emotional, legal...). I think temptation is not thinking about consequences. Thats the next step: doing it or not - thats why we are humans and not animals! Many answers avoided to deal with temptation - why? I can also say that i would NEVER do it, but could i be tempted...? i have to admit: yes. This gave me a lot to think about - what is swinging really about? only fun? Or do i want to sleep with other men, because some part of me wants them to become a father? Hard questions and answers!

 

Karen

 

PS: i have read a statistic that about 15% of us have other fathers than we think...

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Originally posted by Elusive BiFem:

 

"Well, must admit...you could have blown me over with a feather, lovers. Had no idea such things took place. And I'll always wonder why."

 

 

So will we. As if on cue, we got this e-mail this morning:

 

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"I am a 37 years old blonde slut wife with swelling belly and growing 40 DDD tits. Just got knocked up recently and I am hornier than ever. Impregnation could have happened at a black gang bang, but could be also a result from sleeping around with regular fuck buddies without any protection.

 

We are thinking about setting up regular interracial gang bang parties during my pregnancy to fill my moist hole(s) with hot cum. I am looking for a pregnant fuck sister who wants to have some dirty, nasty fun too while being knocked up. Love girls eating my cum-filled pussy. creampie play and double dildo fucking. Central or SW Fl would be great, must be horny and into bareback (no condom) fucking & interracial.

 

Sluts who want to be bred for real could join in too, I have a group of black breeding bulls that we'd like your hubby to join."

 

 

Why we get this stuff I'll never know.

:confused::confused:

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BTW, has anybody noticed that one person responded to "considered to do it" and another responded to "actually tried it"?

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I did notice the "considered" and "actually" lovers. But a question for you...don't you find it horribly and terribly offensive that someone would e-mail you this type of stuff...as if your contribution to humanity is nothing more than that of a "black breeding bull" with no thoughts of the outcome for the child one might give life to...that sort of thing?

 

I guess my naivete is showing once again, but I had no idea this type of stuff took place and find it nothing less than disgusting. Especially disgusting to think that anyone would show such disregard for a black man. But I guess there must be black men that are agreeable...otherwise those types of e-mails would cease to exist.

 

Thanks for opening my eyes to something I would have never dreamed of. - EBF

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Originally posted by Karen12345

...first of all my question was about temptation - many of the postings argue with consequences (financial, emotional, legal...). I think temptation is not thinking about consequences. Thats the next step: doing it or not - thats why we are humans and not animals! Many answers avoided to deal with temptation - why? I can also say that i would NEVER do it, but could i be tempted...? i have to admit: yes. This gave me a lot to think about - what is swinging really about? only fun? Or do i want to sleep with other men, because some part of me wants them to become a father? Hard questions and answers!

 

Karen

 

PS: i have read a statistic that about 15% of us have other fathers than we think...

 

But how many of us can be "tempted" without thinking of consequences? You are right - separates us from animals. But no, I can't say that I can answer based entirely on temptation without giving thought to the consequences. Just like I can't speed down the street even when tempted because of the consequences. Therefore...I would never be tempted to become pregnant from a swing partner without that persons knowledge and agreement.

 

You said you have been tempted. May I ask why? And were you tempted to proceed with the idea of pregnancy without the knowledge/agreement of the man?

 

Few of us can separate the moral, legal, ethical aspects and implications from "temptation." Those things, and more, are the sum total of who I am and who I am results in my responses.

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Originally posted by Elusive BiFem:

 

don't you find it horribly and terribly offensive that someone would e-mail you this type of stuff...as if your contribution to humanity is nothing more than that of a "black breeding bull" with no thoughts of the outcome for the child one might give life to...that sort of thing?

 

Do I find it offensive? Sure I do. But there a lot of women in the lifestyle who want to be with black men because they will dominate them and it is taboo (among other reasons). This is one (rather extreme) aspect of that. The best that I can do is to avoid these people and leave them to black men who have no problems being a "black breeding bull" (as there are quite a few out there who truly have no problem with that).

 

BTW, I strongly suggest that readers of this thread check out a book called Sperm Wars by Dr. Robin Baker. It deals with the premise that sexual behavior is driven by biological imperatives programmed into humans millions of years ago. His theory goes something like this: Men are programmed to not only "knock up" as many females as possible, but to assume that he is going to compete against other males to get the job done. Females are programmed to seek out the best genetic stock and get "knocked up." If you read the book, you'll find that Baker touches on a lot of the subjects in this thread.

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I have to admit that this is an option for my wife an I. We have been unable to have children and want them very much. We were thinking of going to a different city to swing with a single male for a few nights and then go home and never see him again and hope that she was pregnant.....with "our child"...........We haven't done so yet

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Ugh. The very thought is disturbing.

 

I had one woman who we knew for only a week at the local club try to "sneak" the condom off of me during play. That was awkward, and we decided to go our separate ways when that happened. I later heard rumors that her husband was infertile, and she was looking to get pregnant.

 

I guess I should have been flattered. But she would have been disappointed!

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Originally posted by neil1

I have to admit that this is an option for my wife an I. We have been unable to have children and want them very much. We were thinking of going to a different city to swing with a single male for a few nights and then go home and never see him again and hope that she was pregnant.....with "our child"...........We haven't done so yet

 

First off, welcome to the board, neil1!

 

I must ask, have you considered the consequences that can occur by doing this? First and foremost, what if there is a genetic defect that is prominent in his heritage? Are you willing to be loving and generous to a child that may not be perfect, a child which shares lineage to another family, unknown to you? What if the only person that can save this child's life that you have grown to love as your own, suddenly needs something that only the sperm donors biological side can be a slimmer of hope to save his/hers life. What then? You would have no choice but to go public with the situation and do what any parent would do to save the life of the child they love. Would you rather explain that you had adopted the child and had no idea of who the parent was? That wouldn't work, because there would be no adoption papers and you couldn't claim you didn't know without pointing a finger at your wife for having had an affair without your knowledge. Sounds to me like your only viable option is becoming part of the fodder-feast-fest for the Springer or Maury show.

 

I know this potential consequence (alone) would bother me greatly. While I sympathize with your situation, and if placed in your shoes, I would look for a donor that I knew. I'd make sure the legal paper work was in place and that they were well aware of what they were doing and giving up. Concessions would most likely have to be made on both sides, but I know for a fact, this has and does work...I've seen it, personally. :)

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Before we beat up on this couple, consider this. It has become commonplace to a degree for a single woman who wants to have a child to simply go to a bar, get to know a guy and then get knocked up with or without the guy's knowledge. How different is that from the situation that neil1 is describing? It may not be entirely fair if the guy doesn't know and it is far from being the ideal situation, but it does happen.

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By the way, I'd love to know who actually "tried it and succeeded."

 

(Anybody know where I can find condoms that are 100% effective and can't be sabotaged?)

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I agree that it would not be a good idea. But in the same vein I am aware of polyamory situations that produced offspring. Some were disastrous while a few others were able to withstand the resulting emotional storm without scars.

 

But who knows how the children will accept the knowledge when they are old enough to understand and appreciate the uniqueness of the situation?

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This is Neil again...the one who started this. I have read everyone's opinion and they make some great points. But here is our situation in detail:

 

I am unable to produce enough sperm to get my wife pregnant. If we go to a sperm bank and years later the child gets sick and needs a transplant or something we still couldn't get the information. Our only hope right now is to find someone to get my wife pregnant. We don't want the other person to know because of the custody issues later on. What if he wanted custody?

 

All we want is for my wife to get pregnant with a stranger who will never see us again. It would be in a far away city from where we are over the course of 2 or 3 nights. I guess we are willing to make the sacrifice and hope everything turns out ok.

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I am unable to produce enough sperm to get my wife pregnant. If we go to a sperm bank and years later the child gets sick and needs a transplant or something we still couldn't get the information. Our only hope right now is to find someone to get my wife pregnant. We don't want the other person to know because of the custody issues later on. What if he wanted custody?

 

All we want is for my wife to get pregnant with a stranger who will never see us again. It would be in a far away city from where we are over the course of 2 or 3 nights. I guess we are willing to make the sacrifice and hope everything turns out ok.

 

I understand your dilemma. I understand more than you will ever know. However, think about these things:

 

What if the man does have some hereditary disease? Think about Tay Sachs....Cystic Fibrosis. At least in the donor centers they test and screen. Its important to know what you are going to get. You are talking about your future here. I don't think that chance and sacrifice can figure in here.

 

What if the man is HIV+? Not only have you infected your wife, but an innocent child as well. Not to mention all the other horrible STD's that can really harm a baby. I am certain that you would be selective...but just remember joe schmoe could look really healthy and be very clean but have some nasties growing in his blood.

 

I don't understand how the risks here outweighs the benefits of using a donor bank.

 

Low sperm count? Have you tried wearing boxers...not taking hot baths. Sperm have to stay at 98.6 in order to thrive....maybe you are wearing whitie tighties and soaking in the tub too long? Sometimes the acidity of your lady's vagina can kill off sperm...try changing the PH to a more neutral PH..I know that can be done. I hope that maybe you haven't tried the above and maybe I have helped.

 

Custody, IMHO, is the least of your worries.

 

I wish you the best in whatever you decide to do...

 

Take care!

Zgirl

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Originally posted by meowkittyhascla

Besides having your wife get preggers by another man....there is always the choice of adoption! Have you considered that?

 

Glad to see I'm not alone in having had that particular thought.

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Since me and Mrs Spoomonkey are on our second marriages, it just so happens that we are both fixed. (Don't let anyone lie to you boys - a vasectomy hurts and a shot in the nuts feels exactly like you think it would.)

 

So - obviously, this isn't something we could be a party to.

 

I think - however - that we do have some extremes posted here. You have the "breeding black bulls" on one side and the couple who just wants to have a child. I'd certainly agree that swinging isn't the way to go about it - far too many "what ifs" involved. But, if that is the way they decide to go, it is different from the "kink" that others are describing. I mean, this isn't some "gang bang" situation where pregnancy is part of the game. That's just ill...

 

However, think of your child at 18. At some point it could very well become apparent that he/she is not really yours. I think it would be much better if you were able to tell him that he was conceived at a sperm bank and not by some cheap bar pickup.

 

You are also not being fair to the single guy.

 

I just have to go with the majority and say that - while people can have legitimate fertility reasons for wanting this - it is a dishonesty that just doesn't belong in the lifestyle.

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Originally posted by meowkittyhascla

Besides having your wife get preggers by another man....there is always the choice of adoption! Have you considered that?

 

Adoption is not easy. It is very expensive. An adoption can cost near 25,000 paying for physician bills, lawyer fees etc etc. That is if you decide to go private. If you go public, adoption can be a tedious process--home visits, psych evals, physicals, on and on and on. There are soo many children out there that need a family this process takes tooo long! Then there is the mourning of an adoption that doesn't go through. :(

 

Zgirl

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I'm a bit confused on a couple of points, Neil!. While you refer to your wife wanting to conceive, your profile says you are single. Can you clarify that for us, please?

 

You say you do not produce enough sperm to make your wife pregnant... It only takes one and, I understand, it is possible to artificially inseminate with a husband's own sperm if the problem is only a low sperm count.

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Neil again....my profile says I'm single since my wife has stopped swinging for a few months to see if she could get pregnant by me.

 

We are a very open couple and I have her permission to swing alone as a single guy. Though I have to admit I haven't yet...not the same without her. We usually will swing with other partners separately in different houses sometimes. It works for us and not all I realize...

 

On the topic of having someone else get my wife pregnant the more messages I read in this forum the more I am convinced that this is the right thing to do. But I am torn about telling the man about it. On one hand I would love the man to give his consent and then impregnate my wife with me watching, but on the other I don't want him interfering later on in any way. It's a touchy call but I think we may go ahead and try it...

 

And on the subject on how many sperm it takes, yes it takes only one but doctors say you need millions to engulf the egg in order for just one to penetrate the shell.

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What happens once your wife does get pregnant with someone else's baby? Will the other guy then have any relationship with the baby, will the baby know you as his real dad or the other man? If the other man has contact what will you tell your family, the baby already will resemble you in no way! Could you really love that child, as it would be a constant 18 year reminder of your wife screwing someone else and having their child in her for 9 months. If so, then what about the baby once it's born, say you and the mrs have problems and end up splitting (I know you are not planning on it, but preparation is needed here). Will you still raise the child as your own if you two split, or tell her it is all hers as she couldn't draw child support or pass a dna test with it anyhow? Then what about the child, it wasn't asked into this world to be raised by one parent..

If you wanna do this, great, good luck, I wish you both the best, but make sure you definitely think out all those long and hard before you even consider because once she's pregnant, then it is too late.

There's my two cents, take it as you will.

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      We wouldn’t be sleeping around and maybe hope to find a regular couple or 2 to have this fun with, but as a general rule what’s the community’s approach to those coming in and looking to have bareback sex?
    • By njbm
      We are laying low, not due to covid but other reasons. But in talking to friends, we just don’t hear as much about house parties, etc.  Has covid subdued interest? Or are we jaded and/or over the hill?
    • By let's do it again
      I haven't seen this addressed here, so I was wondering if anyone has been scammed or attempted to be scammed while swinging? Now we have had single guys lie about having a partner or one couple wanted me to loan them a sizable amount of money. So has any swingers tried to blackmail or scam you?
    • By emmasutherland89
      Me and my partner are in a very secure happy relationship and are not new to swinging but we recently found out I'm pregnant, wondered on what people think of a pregnant woman who still meets and of people would want to meet? My partner has always liked to watch me play and likes the idea of me still meeting and so do I but curious if it would others off?
    • By udsarge
      Speaking as a recent snip-"ee",  does the fact that a potential playmate has had a vasectomy a plus, a minus, or doesn't even factor into consideration when evaluating a new partner in the lifestyle?
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