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  1. We are talking about love... hmmm, the post's begs the question, "Is swinging about love?" I love my partner, but do I "love" the person I swing with? I would suggest not. Therefore, i don't think I can appeal to the 'love' passages for direction here. :-)
  2. I have read much of the post regarding Christainity and swinging and sex. There are many levels of "culture" happeing here. It all seems rather narrow in scope (not to be mean). There is what the bible teaches, and what have been interputed ... example... Many think that adam and eve ate the "apple" well, there is nothing regarding apples in the story! However, over the years, hearing it was an apple, we begin to think, well it has to be an apple... and take it for granted. Church teaching, bible stories, have been over ladened by cultural understanding which is not necessary true. Just a thought.... it seems we are sharing "religions" at a very literal level... just my two cents... and by the way... "It was the apple in the tree that caused the sin, it was the pear on the ground!" Well, I def dont belive that either....
  3. In Canada we call it "snow balls". Hmmmmmmm, very nice! Everyone should share a snow ball ... it tastes good, and if you deeply kiss it runs down your chin... and you can lick each others face of the hot juices... facelick
  4. Very interesting discussion! I have had the privilege to attend university and complete three degrees a Bachelor of Arts in Comparative Religion, Master of Theology and most recently a Master of Counseling Psychology. The first and last degrees were in secular universities and the second a Christian university (total of eleven years – I know, I’m crazy!!! But I love being crazy!!). I mention this not because I feel I’m an expert, but to point out that issues of faith is much more involved than having the “education” or looking in the Sacred Writings for answers. I am no closer to the “truth” than I was 11 years ago. Nothing is absolute, and life is a journey of discovery. The writings in the Christian and Hebrew Scriptures are peoples quest for meaning - discover. What we have in Scripture began as oral stories eventually they were written down. All of us are engaged in the pursuit of meaning. Does the Christian Bible say anything about being bi or a play couple? NO! You will not find these issues in the Bible. There is negative reference to homosexuality, but only in a few places. There is much more about divorce, than about homosexuality! Most churches today accept divorce don’t they? There was a time when divorce was immoral. People were together “until death do us part” (lucky when the “death do us part” statement come into effect, people lived only to a very young age! And there were no CSI people!) Did the church change its mind regarding divorce? Something else to keep in mind, those who wrote about homosexuality did not understand or study God’s gift to humanity! We now understand more fully (well some what) that homosexuality is quite normal. Let’s face it, the unknown is very fearful for us — “There is nothing to fear but fear itself!” Fear drives us to do crazy thing! It is also worth your while to read about other cultures where there is sharing of partners. In such cases there are well set boundaries, but they “swing” woops did I say swing!!!! When whole cultures do this, we have to ask ourselves, “Is this whole culture wrong?” Hey, if a whole culture of people understand it as being fine, well, guess what? That helps my understanding. One last thought. It’s been helpful for me in my own personal journey and in working with clients, to understand religion in terms of Spirituality. Religion puts up walls that name who’s in and who’s out-- that is never helpful in any way. Such understanding is not exclusive to religious groups, but I think we do this all the time. Can you be a play couple and a Christian — I think you can be both, however, if there are questions raised for you, you need to use you God given gifts of Reason, tradition, and scripture figure it out. Ultimately, you have to make sense of your world! Thanks for you rear.... woops ear! :-)
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