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  1. No, the 25 years isn't stringing me a long, but the last 4 years appears to be so. She followed me relentlessly: at my work; near my house; when I went shopping, etc., etc., etc. When I found out, I only wanted to have her confess to me, but she cut me off. Instead, she only wanted me to talk to her current husband and lie about our relationship. She cut off communication when she felt that I was no longer buying it. There is something in her personality which prevents her from actually saying "I made a mistake." I just wanted to hear it from her lips. I know that she's got a new man now and refuses to tell me or her other "loved ones" that she's got him--but I know her. As for the protection order threat. It came by text from her current husband who, as I did 25 years earlier, thinks that he can patch this up and get back together with her. I was wrong then, and he's wrong now. As the earlier post said, she cannot commit to anything for a long period of time. I would have given up the world for her, and I love her still. Goodbye Shywife.
  2. Really, my heart is too broken to fix here. It never occurred to me to let her see the history but I certainly would have had she asked. She never did. Understand, our relationship started four years ago after a 25 year gap when she cheated on me back in the 1980s and then married a 3rd guy. This time around she swore that she was a changed person and was committed to the truth--and boy did it look like she tried. I'm not so sure now. But she has now contacted the police to inform me not to attempt any other calls or texts (and I don't know where she lives right now). I pray to God that I can stand, just for a minute, in front of her as ask: "K, was it all a lie? Did you ever really love me?" And ask "at what point in our marriage did you start seeing other men?" I feel that she kept me in her life just long enough to find another "man-bridge" to cross and when that bridge was completed, she cut off all communications and crossed. God, is dishonesty the worest sin of all.
  3. HEY everyone. Here's an update to Shywife's thread. I am her husband, or rather, I was engaged to her when we were in high school and after 20 years of her having married someone else we restarted our relationship. She told me that she never really loved the good man she is currently married to (although she crushed my heart when she left me to marry him), and that her husband couldn't get an erection and thus they hadn't had sex for years. I "married" her in my heart and even gave her a ring to show it. Re-read all of the posts by Shywife, above, they are talking about me. Well, she found another man and never let me know about it. Suddenly she cut off communication with me and would refuse to speak with me on the phone (she only allowed ocassional text messages). Apparently she found her new man on SLS and now my heart, as it was the first time she left me to marry her current husband, is torn from my body. I do no know where she is and her married husband does not know either. I have cried until my body was literally exhausted from crying, and then I cried some more. I do not know where life will lead Shywife, but I love her after leaving me for another twice in two decades. Oh and the story about her married husband being unable to get an erection--all part of the lie.
  4. Dead is only a state of mind. Wait! You're serious? Haha, sorry, really I am. I guess I didn't pay enough attention and when it showed up on the recent posts section, I just thought that it was . . . um, recent. Lawguy.
  5. Well, despite the attacks against him (and his use of words which I don't really think are in the dictionary ), Regularguy is spot on. On the basis of pure logic, he is right--I've read the varied responses and they don't seem to answer him. Now, it's not that I ever plan to adopt Regularguy's "procedures" during sex, but logically he has a valid point. For some of the others who responded: come on folks--debate the guy, but don't use epithets and get personal--it just shows that you have run out of arguments. My .02 Lawguy
  6. Great to see a fellow man of the cloth on the boards, lol. You must know that apostle Paul said "adulterers and whoremongers God will judge." That's simply not a property issue as described by Deuteronomy or Leviticus. I guess since there's no exception for consensual adultery in the New Testament, many folks kinda conclude "a sin is a sin" when it comes to sleeping with someone other than their spouses. As for polygamy, yes, at times it does appear that it was sanctioned by God. At other times, it appears that it was proscribed. Is that God chaning His mind? Maybe, but I doubt it. Perhaps it's a case of changed rules for changed circumstances. My original point was (and it was addressed in an earlier response to my first post) it's much better to say, "hey perhaps this is a sin, but I'm having a hard time understanding why" than it is to redefine sin (or even God for that matter) in order to avoid the hard questions about this lifestyle. Just my humble opinion. Lawguy
  7. Hey, I don't want to appear to be on a high horse, etc., but every time I hear the "God is Love" refrain--or something similar--I get an uncomfortable feeling. Yes, God is Love and His love is unconditional. This does not mean that He will reward disobedience or faithlessness simply because He loves us. The worst thing any of us can do is to fool our own inner selves with such disingenuity. I mean, I love all of my own children, certainly, but I also have a few that I trust more and will give more responsibility to (due to their obedience). I guess what I'm saying is while love is always there, it does not shield us from God's natural reaction to disobedience. Just a thought, not a sermon. (and yes, I've swung before) Lawguy
  8. My wife had always swallowed. She got her first chance with a stranger at our last threesome and declined to take it in her mouth. I admit that it would be erotic to watch, etc., and yes, I would kiss her afterwards (so long as she REALLY had swallowed him first). Lawguy
  9. Additude has it as exactly perfectly right as can be. There's simply nothing to add here. I guess that's the end of this thread, lol Lawguy
  10. JTcamp05, I really do think that it is largely just you. I mean, no, we don't tell our wives what to do, but holy crap, standing at the alter and saying "I do" does give you a right to say "I am not comfortable with you f--king so and so without letting me know first." If that's hard to fathom, then so be it. I'm not intending to flame you here, but swinging is not a singles-only club (if it were, your earlier comments would be perfectly logical), but it's largely made up of couples who have made commitments to each other and, to one degree or another, CAN tell each other what to do and CAN control them to a small extent. Having "control" over another person may seem like an unjust thing to some, but to many others it is reflective of both spouses' sacred commitment to each other. My wife has "control" over me. No, I'm not panty-whipped, but I just respect her enough that if she says "I don't want us playing except under these rules" then I will play under her rules. Because we love each other, she does the same, and no one feels put out or controlled. Just my humble opinion. Lawguy
  11. I'm with the biologist on this one. Your friend who got pregnant without penetration--possible, but still in her case, I bet her partner had an orgasm and thus sperm found itself inside of her vagina. It was not pre-cum, I bet. Even with an orgasm (which didn't happen in your case), there's a general 3% chance of pregnancy. Higher, if you are ovulating and much lower, if you are not. I reaaaly think that you are taking it far too seriously, but again I am a man so I guess I can be viewed as insensitive on this matter. But, again, your odds of pregnancy--where he did not cum inside of you--are nil. Lawguy
  12. We've done MFMs but haven't yet swapped, so I guess I don't know how much of an expert I am, but I do disagree here. In my view, part of a great swinging experience is watching my wife just really, really enjoy herself with a handsome stud. In that light, if a couple had a great looking husband, but the wife was not attractive, I would definitely go for it anyhow. That's not even "taking one for the team" in my book because HALF of the whole experience is watching my wife enjoy herself. Now, if the spouse was so repulsive that I simply could not go through with it, I might be inclined to say "Honey, I'd love to see you do this guy, but I cannot hang with his Mrs." In sum, I guess I've taken myself out of the taking one for the team mode because I want to watch the wife in action just as much as I want some action myself. Lawguy
  13. Dang straight, slolrner. No there are NOT two sides to this type of story. He feels uncomfortable about her relationship with this guy--END OF STORY. Moreover, as if that were not enough alone, she's also talking to him (while knowing how he felt about the guy that night) and has not been telling her husband. Last, but not least, ANY frigging phone call to the other guy AFTER the husband expesses such concerns--even if to tell the guy to go to hell--is waaaay out of line, IMHO. Cuckolding might be fun, but I'd rather hear the stories than live them. Lawguy
  14. Van, this is NOT the green headed monster calling you--this is common sense. I hate to quote Doctor Laura, but hey, wake up and smell the coffee. There is obviously more than a simple sexual attatraction between the Mr. and your Mrs. They want to meet alone. Why? The answer to that question will tell you everything. Just my opinion here, but I think that you should cut the other couple off completely. Perhaps not forever, but at least six months, etc. My guess is that you'll find your wife still trying to keep up communication with him. If she can handle six months with no communication, then I'll be the first to apologize, but if not, then yes, you have much to fear.
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