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  • Birthday 09/23/1978

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    Florida
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    6 or so experiences. Mainly soft swap.
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    Paradise Lakes, Caliente resorts.

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  1. THE TAKEAWAY: We took a few things away from our experience with Mike and Glori. We decided that we would not use Craigslist again, that we would find a site to meet other couples. We learned that we loved sex on cam. We haven't done it since that night, but are always looking for opportunities to do it. I decided that if all members of the group were unable to communicate, it probably wasn't going to end well. We learned that we should have recognized the text early in the day on Saturday about their budget as a warning sign, and that if we came across something like that in the future, we would just suggest that we put things on hold, and try again in the future.
  2. PANAMA!!!! So, after our first experience described above, we decided that we needed to keep on going, and have a full swap. A day or two later, we posted another Ad on Craigslist. We received a few responses that we politely declined, and one from a very interesting couple by the names of Mike and Glori. They were from Panama, and had only been in the area for a few years. We traded a few E-mails and photos with them, and we were very interested. T thought that Mike was a good looking man, and excited about the thought of a Hispanic lover. I was excited about the prospects of meeting Glori, who had long curly dark hair, a pretty face, and beautiful breasts. We continued to trade E-mails, as well as our cell phone numbers to trade text messages. We set up a date for the four of us on the upcoming Saturday. On Thursday, I got a text from Mike saying "I need to tell you something..." "Please do." I responded. "Glori only speaks Spanish. Is that a deal breaker?" Well, I thought about this for a few minutes. The pros and cons, and I figured that it might be exciting, that I would appear bigoted if I said that it would be a deal breaker, and that this was what the lifestyle was all about, meeting other people, and experiencing new things. So, I replied to him "No problem. She probably speaks more English that I speak Spanish, but let's give it a shot." He continued to let me know that she did understand a lot of what was being said in a conversation, but that her responses were not the best. I was fine with this. Later that same evening, we got a text from Mike asking if they could come over that night. We replied that they could not, that we would prefer to meet people out to dinner first. A few minutes later, a FaceTime call comes in from Mike. We picked it up, and found the two of them lying in bed, clothes on, but clearly looking horny towards each other. We switched the FaceTime over to my Ipad and headed upstairs to our own bed. We chatted with them for a few minutes, and had a glass of wine as we talked. Mike talked about how beautiful he thought T was, and I told him the same about Glori. I asked "Can we see Glori's breasts?" He spoke to her, and a moment later, her shirt was off, and there they were. Beautiful, large brown breasts with nice big nipples. I was hard as a rock. Glori proceeded to pull Mike's shorts down, and start stroking him. She positioned herself toward their camera, pulled her shorts off, spread her legs, and parted her pussy lips for us both to see. T and I were both on fire. We undressed, and began making out with each other. Glori asked Mike in Spanish to ask us if drinking made it difficult for me to get hard. I let them know that it did not. I proceeded to go down on T for them to see, and watched as Mike did the same to Glori. T had a rare orgasm from me licking her, which was a lot of fun. I love feeling her pussy convulse on my chin. T proceeded to suck me for about five minutes as we watched Glori suck Mike off on their end. As I write this, I am hard just thinking about that night. We began to fuck. T got on top of me, grinding in to me deeply and slowly, and loving showing off her body to our new friends. T had another two orgasms on top of me, and I figured that it was time put a condom on and finish off. I positioned her on all fours, facing the camera, put my condom on, and began to pund her from behind as Mike and Glori did the same thing. T had one more orgasm, and I pushed in to her with everything I had, and emptied myself. We were spent, and watched Mike and Glori finish a few minutes later. We ended the call, and talked about how excited we were to meet them in person on Saturday. T and I talked that night about how much fun the video was, how we wanted to do that again, how dirty it was, and how everything about it was exciting. Fast forward to Saturday morning. Text is received from Mike asking how much dinner would be at the restaurant we wanted to go to. I let him know that it would be about $70.00/couple plus tip if they were to get dinner and a drink or two each. He let me know that it wasn't quite in their budget. Decision time again. We would definitely rather meet someone for dinner first. I decided to try to play the middle ground, and suggested that we just meet at Chilis for a drink first instead of getting full meal somewhere. Mike replied and said that would be a good idea. Just like the week before, our babysitter arrive, and we headed out. Much calmer and more sure of ourselves this time. We arrived at Chilis on time, and got a table. 15 minutes after we sat down, we got a text from Mike saying that they were running behind, but were still coming. Unfortunately, they kept us waiting for nearly an hour before they rolled it. We are generally on time people. When we tell someone we will be somewhere, we will be. Thing come up, yes, but 95% of the time, we do not keep people waiting. They offered no reason for their delay. Only a brief "Sorry we're so late." We chatted, and had a few drinks. The language barrier with Glori was a little harder than I thought it would be. It was a little strange to have one of the people at the table not being a big part of the conversation. When we asked for the tab, Glori got up and went to the restroom. I could tell that the two of them traded text messages while she was up, and Mike said "I think we are just going to head home tonight. I don't think it is going to work out." While we were a little disappointed, we let them know that it was no big deal, that we understood, and to let us know if they ever wanted to meet up again. We parted ways, and have not spoken with them since.
  3. Thanks for your interest. This was in the summer of '14. No, we never did follow up with them. We figured it was better to let sleeping "Dogs" as it were, lie...
  4. DISBELIEF: Yes, we could not believe it. When they came back in from the porch, she apologized, and said that she just couldn't keep on going. We put our clothes on, gave them hugs, told them how nice it was to meet them, and headed out. We will never know what it was that turned her off. All the while that we were playing, the dog was in the bedroom barking. T and I were able to tune it out, but I think that it was the only thing that she could hear. Probably like nails on a chalkboard. Or perhaps there was something I said or did. Who knows. In any case, the buildup and the experience itself were fun. We went in wanting a soft swap, and that is just what we got. We still had great sex with each other when we got home that night, and the experience left us wanting to go all the way the next time. Quite the let down, I know I told you all that this would be the truth about our experiences. More stories toward the end of the week...
  5. THE BIG DAY: Ok, Peer pressure is a bitch. I was planning on continuing writing on Friday AM, but I have a little time free, so I will drop some in now. The big day started about an hour earlier than most Saturdays in our house. I got up to use the bathroom around 6:00am, which is my normal waking time. Typically, on a weekend, I would lay back down until the kids woke up at 7:00am, but today, I was on fire. I brushed my teeth, crawled back in to bed, and started massaging T's legs and ass. It wasn't long before she was awake, and starting to moan just a little bit. As I worked my hands deeper and deeper between her legs, she started to breathe deeper. When I reached her pussy, I found it hot and wet. So wet that my fingers slid right in with zero effort. I turned her over, and proceed to make slow, deep love for about five minutes. I stopped, and asked if she wanted to use her "Mommy Toy" which is code word for her Hitachi, and she said that she did. We laid down a towel, she fired up the toy, and I proceeded to finger her until her pussy just about turned itself inside out and she let out a little bit of squirt. She was spent. I rolled over, laid down, and let her massage my balls as I shot out a huge load all over her hands. We wiped it up, and drifted back to sleep for the next 45 minutes or so. Once awake with the kids, the day seemed to drag on. We were just so ready for the evening to finally be there. Grocery store, soccer, cooking lunch, cleaning the house, we were hating every minute of it. Finally, 7pm rolled around, and our babysitter arrived. T was looking good with a pair of white linen pants, no panties, and a sparkly blouse with no bra underneath. Her body looked great. I was pretty average. Nice pair of jeans, and a nice button down shirt. Nothing too fancy. We headed out, and just like our first trip to the nudist resort, we barely talked on the way. We were both super nervous. We arrived at the apartments where James and Tina lived, and had to text her to let her know we had arrived. A few more minutes of waiting, and her car pulled up, she rolled down the window, and motioned for us to follow her back to their building. It was getting real now. We didn't get a good look at her, but we could tell it wasn't a dude, and it appeared that things were going to go well. When we parked, we got a good look at Tina. She was a great looking woman. Nice, natural B-cup breasts, displayed nicely in a tank top with a blue bra showing beneath. Nice slacks on that showed off her butt. Not too big. Not too small. Nice and firm looking. We walked up to her, and immediately we both gave her a hug, and said how nice it was to meet her. She had a great body, I could tell from that hug. The three of us walked up the apartment, and met James, who was also a decent looking guy, just as in their pictures. They were the most gracious hosts. Nothing creepy. Food laid out, wine, snacks, everything you could ask for. We all grabbed a drink, and made ourselves comfortable on their couches. James and Tina on one sofa, T and I on the other. We talked about their experience with swinging. We were the 5th couple that they would be with if it all worked out. We played music on their computer. Generally, just talked, and had a good time. Things were going well. When Tina got up to use the restroom, T decided that it was time to make a move. She got up, and sat down on the sofa next to James. She started gently touching his leg, and talking to him. When Tina came back, she sat down next to me, and I did the same to her. It was exciting to touch another woman. I hadn't touched a woman other than T for quite a few years. The evening was going perfectly except for one thing- They had a dog that would not stop barking. They put the dog in the bedroom- Barking. They let the dog out in the living room- Barking. It wasn't really bothering T and I too much, but I could tell it was killing them. We made the best of things, however, and tried to laugh it off. At one point, Tina complimented me on my shirt. I said to her "Actually, I wear this shirt at the office about once a week when I am interviewing people. I'm glad you like it." She smiled, and I said "Since this is my interview shirt, I have to ask, do we have the job?" She replied "What do you think?" and started to unbutton it. KICKOFF!!! From that point, it was on!!! She unbuttoned the shirt, and we began to kiss intensely. It was very strange to kiss another woman. I was so used to T and I's "married" make out sessions. This was something that I had not experienced in a long time. I pulled her shirt off, buried my face in her titts, and then unhooked her bra. Her breasts were incredible. Very firm, nice rock hard nipples. It was everything I thought it was going to be. On the opposite sofa, T and James were having an equally good time. I could see that all T's clothes were off, and James was putting his fingers in to her. I could hear her starting to moan. I knew she was having a good time. I looked over and asked "Are you OK?" "Oh yes!" she replied. Next, I pulled off Tina's pants. No surprise, she had no panties on. I rubbed the back of my hand on her shaved pussy, and found it to be dripping, sticky, hot, and wet. I began fingering her as we continued to kiss. Tine grabbed on to my cock and started tugging at it. God, it felt so fucking good. She whispered in my ear "Put it in my mouth." I knealt on to the sofa, and positioned myself right in front of her face. She said "I thought you told me it was small?" I asked "Do you like it?" She said "It's perfect." and began to suck. She took my cock so deep in her throat that she almost gagged a few times. She was the most enthusiastic blowjob that I have ever had. She looked over at her husband and said "Do you hear that baby?" and he said "Yeah, good job babe." I could see that T was on her knees sucking on James at that time as well. Both of them looked like they were enjoying the situation. Tina stopped, and grabbed T's arm, and said "K, have you ever had two girls suck on you?" I said "No" and then both of them were kneeling in front of me, taking turns on it. James was behind them, fingering both women at the same time. They worked on me for a few minutes, and said that it was now James' turn. They sat him down, and began servicing him. I positioned myself behind the wives, and continued with the fingering. I am a little obsessed with the size of my penis, so I took a good look at James', and while it appeared a little bigger, it was not a huge difference. I was OK with it. After they sucked on him for a few minutes, we laid both girls down on the carpet, and began to lick their pussies. Tina's was nice, tight, looked good, smelled good. I was loving licking on it. She seemed to be enjoying it, and was grinding in to me. After 2-3 minutes of licking, she said "I am so sorry, I need to use the restroom." so she got up and walked to her bathroom. At that same time, T and James took a break as well. The three of us were sitting on the floor, sweaty, naked, and horny. Tina came out of the restroom and said "I'm sorry, I need to take a break." She asked James to go out on their porch with her. So they did, completely naked on the porch of an Apartment complex. The night ended there.
  6. Ha Ha. Nice to see some responses. I was curious if anyone was reading this rambling. The next part is a good story. I probably won't have time to write it up until later in the week. Thanks for your interest.
  7. THE BUILDUP, BAIT AND SWITCH: We received a response to our Ad from Tina, a woman just a few years older than us. She E-mailed saying that she and her husband, James, were very interested. She said that they normally didn't respond to Ad's without photos, but that they liked what we were talking about, and wanted to start communicating with us. We replied to her with some photos, and received some in return. They were an attractive couple, and apparently, they liked us as well, checked with each other, and we swapped phone numbers so that we could all trade text messages, except for James, who did not give his cell number. Apparently, it was a work phone T, Tina, and I had a group text message thread, and traded literally hundreds of messages in the days leading up to our meeting. The women would talk about how excited they were to meet each other, what they wanted to do to each other, etc. Tina would compliment me on how handsome I was. It was hot. T and I had amazing sex every single night after trading those messages thinking about how hot it was going to be when we met up with them. We would send photos and texts to Tina while we were fucking. It was literally incredible. Never had we been so turned on. The plan was that we were going to meet them for dinner at a nearby restaurant, and then if things went well, we were going to go back to their place. Just two days prior to the meeting, we got a text from Tina saying "How do you two feel about kissing?" We talked it over, and said that we kind of felt weird about it. Even though we had no problem with each of us providing oral to another partner, kissing, especially on the mouth felt a little more personal- Tina responded that they typically did not have any problems with kissing, and that we should consider it. We talked it over, and said "Yes" kissing, no limitations would be fine. The next day, another message from Tina- How about we just have some food here at our place, that way if we all decide to play, we will have more time for it. Once again, even though we were a little uncomfortable, we said Yes. An hour later, message from Tina- "James only wants to do this if it is a Full Swap." WTF, T and I said to each other. They know that this is our first time, we clearly stated in our Ad that we wanted to do a soft swap only. We already negotiated (or caved, as it were) on the kissing and dinner thing. What the hell is the problem??? We didn't respond at first. T and I talked it over, and said that we had put a lot in to finding this couple, and that if we didn't want to do it that night, we would leave, but that in the interest of keeping things going, we would agree to a Full Swap, so we sent the message. I was a little nervous about this. I am not that well endowed. Just a nubbin when flaccid, and 5.5 inches when erect. I sent a message to Tina telling her about my size, and she said that she would be fine with it, that James was 6.5 inches erect. I told T that if it worked out, I hoped she enjoyed it. Well, that was it. Appeared that all was scheduled and agreed upon. In less than 24 hours, we would be fucking someone else. We both could not sleep that night. A lot of emotions and nervousness swirling in our heads. We were both super horny, but super nervous about how it would go, how we would feel, etc.
  8. THE SEEK AND FIND: Being new to things, we felt that Craigslist would be a good way to find a couple to play with. It is free, there seemed to be a lot of activity on the boards, and was an easy way for us to delve in. We started by reading a few ads and responding to them with a few G-rated pictures and a little write up about ourselves. All went without a response back. It was a little disheartening. You never know if your E-mail or their response simply did not go through, if the other couple didn't like you, who knows. We told ourselves that we would just post an Ad on our own, and that if someone responded, even if we weren't interested, we would politely tell them as much. Both of us sat at the computer and drafted up our Ad. We wanted to meet another couple in our age range, or up to 10 years older. We wanted to get to know each other over dinner, and then we wanted to have a soft swap. We submitted the ad and held our breath. Within a few hours, responses were trickling in. A few from single guys, who we politely responded to saying that we weren't interested, but good luck. A few from couples who we really weren't attracted to, who we would respond to saying that they weren't just what we were looking for, and good luck, and then we got a response from Tina and her husband James as we will call them here.
  9. CONVERSATION AND TRIP #2 Fast forward a few weeks, we decided that we would make a trip back to the nudist resort. Our second trip was much more relaxed. Gone were the nerves that had us shaking prior to our last visit. The only thing we worried about was running in to Sam and Laura, however, we decided that if we did see them, that we would approach them, and let them know that their contacts made us uncomfortable, and that we would be happy to have conversations with them while at the resort, but not outside. Thankfully, we never ran in to them again. We spoke to several other couples in the conversation pool that night. We recounted our experience with Sam and Laura, and everyone seemed to tell us that we had been "preyed upon" and the general consensus was that Sam kind of felt like we were his new toy, and didn't want to let go of it. We did have a few couples ask us if we were in the LS, to which we replied that we had been thinking about it, but had not any experiences. Nobody was pushy, and they were all really cool about it, basically saying at the end of conversations to let them know if we wanted to give something a try. Many of the couples were older than us, and not really in our age group, but it was fun talking to them anyway. One fantasy of mine that T and I had discussed was that if we met a cool couple there, and they were staying on property, I would ask if they would mind if we used their hotel room to fuck, and invite them up to watch. This still has not happened, but it prompted us to talk to a lot of people. Towards the end of our evening, T and I were alone in a section of the pool. We started to talk about the LS. I asked her if she would like to do something. She asked if I could handle seeing her with another man. I said that I think I could, as long as we were all doing oral and touching. I said that I didn't think that I would want her to be fucked by another man. I asked her what she thought about me with another woman. She said that she though it would be hot, as long as there was no penetration. I asked if she would like to be with that girl too. She said that she would. This conversation got us both hot. I was basically sitting behind her on the step of the pool rubbing her back and stroking her breasts as we talked. I'm sure that she felt my erection growing on her back. I kept pulling her in tighter as we talked, needing to feel all of her chest, and needing to put some pressure on my boner. She turned around, and began kissing me. I continued to play with her breasts, and she reached down, and began rubbing my balls. Without saying a word, she turned around again, and guided my hard cock in to her pussy. She rode me in the pool for about 5 minutes that night. I felt her pussy tighten up and clench my cock twice during that five minutes. She doesn't like BC pills, I don't like the thought of a vasectomy, so we typically use condoms at the end, but obviously, being in the pool, we were not able to. It took more self restraint than I have ever mustered to tell her to stop because I didn't want to cum inside her right then. (The only two things that scare me in life are prison and another baby!!!!) There were 3-4 other couples and one single guy watching. No more than 10 yards away. She was quiet, and most of the action was below the waterline, but it was clear that she was having a lot of fun, and I think that folks enjoyed the show. We got out of the pool, me still with an erection, dried off, a put our clothes back on, and headed home. At home that night, as she was stroking me off, we talked about making a LS experience real. We decided that we would put an Ad on Craigslist to see is we could find another couple.
  10. INTRODUCTION AND CREEP OUT: When we arrived at the resort, we were literally shaking. I was shaky when announcing myself at the guard gate, not really sure what to say. We drove around the parking area for a second, hoping not to see the vehicle of someone we knew. We parked, and walked up to the front desk, fully clothed. The check in process for first time guests took about 15 minutes, as they had to type in all of our info, take photocopies of our ID's, etc, however, once done, check in would be speedy in the future. We walked through the lobby, and out to the pool area. We were arriving late in the afternoon, but the place was still rather busy. Lots of naked people. Dicks swaying the in the breeze. Breasts out and proud. We were younger than most of the people there by 15 years, but it was still cool. Liberating. As we were walking to find a chair, a man said "Hello" to us- He was sitting at a table with his wife- We returned the "Hello" and kept walking until we found two pool chairs. I got naked immediately, and laid down. At just enough of an angle that I could watch all of the comings and goings, however. T stripped down, but kept her bathing suit bottoms on, and laid down as well. We kind of traded small talk about how relaxing it was there, how nice it was to not be around the kids, and how this would be a great place to come back to. After about 15 minutes, T slipped her bottoms off. The poolside waitress brought us drinks, and just relaxed for an hour or so taking in the sights. The place was clearly LS friendly. We watched as a man who was talking to his wife had another woman come over, sit down, and pull his flaccid cock in to her mouth for a few seconds. I plain view. It was incredible, and I got hard just seeing it. We talked about it, and T said that it excited her to see that as well. After about an hour of laying around by ourselves, we made our way to the conversation pool. Everyone was super friendly and talkative. They all wanted to know how long we had been nudists, what brought us there, generally nice small talk. Nothing sexual in nature. Shortly after going in to the conversation pool, the guy and his wife who had said hello to us as we walked in came over and started up a conversation. They were about 10 years older than us. He was stocky, with a small sized flaccid penis. She was slightly overweight, but with nice large breasts on full display. We talked about our jobs, kids, where we lived, everything. We asked them about the quick BJ that we had witnessed, and he said that you will see that sort of thing all the time, and that after dark, as long as you are discreet, it is OK to make love in the pools. This intrigued us. For this story, we will call them Sam and Laura. Time went on, and we had a few more drinks, and when Laura was up to use the restroom, Sam asked T and I if we had ever thought about having sex in the same room as another couple. I said that we had never really talked about it, but that it was something that we would consider. T agreed, and said that it would be exciting. When Laura came back, talk of that stopped. It was getting late, and was time for us to head back home. Sam asked if he could have my cell number to let us know when they were coming back. I obliged, and gave him my number. 15 minutes later, as we were on the way home, text on my phone from Sam- It was nice to meet you. I replied that it was nice to meet them as well. T and I had great sex that night. We talked about all of the bodies that we saw, how nice it was to be naked in the open, and what a good time we had. We talked about having sex in the same room as another couple, and that it would be great. We both agreed that we did not want it to be with Sam and Laura, however. The next morning- Boom, Text from Sam- When do you think we can meet up? I reply that I was not sure, that we are still thinking about things. A few hour later, before noon the next day- Boom, I have a Facebook friend request from Sam- I ask how he located me, as they did not know our last name- He replies that Facebook has a function that will allow you to search for people with a mobile phone number. This is getting really weird now. I send a text to Sam that afternoon saying that there must have been some mis-communication, and that we are not interested in meeting up for same room sex- He replies back, and says that he understands, that they just want to hang out, and that there is no pressure. I reply that will be fine. That evening, T has a Facebook friend request from Laura. She is now creeped out. T and I decide that we are just going to ignore these people. Two days later, we have Facebook messages from Sam and Laura inviting us to their kid's birthday party. Really??? Needless to say, we blocked them on Facebook, and have not had contact since. This was a very strange encounter, something that has not happened since, and everyone tells us is far from the norm, but it happened to us. Be careful with who you give your phone number to in this world...
  11. THE SEMINAL CONVERSATION: During the spring of 2014, we were on a short family vacation. The kids were napping, and wife and I were in the pool. We were being a little amorous, and touchy in the pool, and I took a deep breath, and asked her, in as non-chalant a tone as I could, if she would ever consider going to a nudist resort near us to hang out in the pool just like we were doing that day. To my relief, she said "Yeah, that would be fun." (About 10 years earlier, when we were in our mid 20's, we had visited a clothing optional spa in the Southwest. We both "Bared all" all there, and were very excited about the experience. In the years since, we had been to the nudist resort near us once, and to a nude beach in South Florida once, but no trips of that nature since we had been married, and certainly none since we had kids.) After she agreed, I felt a little more relaxed, and said "Yeah, it will be great, we can hang out naked, not have to do anything, have a few drinks, and generally just relax." She agreed, and said that she was really excited about it. We talked about the trip to the resort a lot. We looked at the website multiple times to find out "What the deal was" with a daily membership, we booked our babysitter, we talked about what sort of people we would see there, etc. We were both super nervous about it. Almost shaking on the day of our trip, but we did it...
  12. So, we are new users, and this will be a long post, but we wanted to share our experiences. Most will be written from my, the husband's point of view. I enjoy writing, and see this as a great outlet. There will be several posts to this thread with numerous stories full of detail. As a little introduction, T and I had talked and joked about swinging for years. We never had a serious discussion about it, and didn't really talk about it in bed. I knew that she had an interest in other women, but had never had any experiences. We had experimented taking photos and sending them to a voyeur site for a while, but T was a little self conscious about her body and being recognized. This first post will be a general overview of how I felt at the end of the year, and now, two years out. After a year in the LS, I am happy to say that we are still together, and things are actually better than ever. Whether it is due to the lifestyle or not, who knows. We did not get nearly as crazy as many couples do, so if you want to read a Penthouse Letters type review, that is not what happened, and not what you will find here. As I look back on it, I have mixed thoughts about going in to the lifestyle. That being said, we will experiment and play with other couples again. I am not writing to talk anyone out of experimenting, or to advocate experimenting for that matter. I am just going to lay out what happened so that you can make a more educated decision for yourselves. The Cons of the Lifestyle for me were: - It introduces a level of stress to your life that you probably have not experienced in a long time. "Do they like us?" "Will they show up?" "What is wrong with me?" are all questions that you can plan on asking yourself. - There is no taking back or re-doing what happened. It is done. Final. In the books. Make your decisions and set your boundaries ahead of time. - I discovered a level of insecurity within myself that I never knew I would have. I questioned my attractiveness, my manhood, my wife's level of attraction to me. It led me to seek out a Dr. that would put me on Testosterone therapy, which I have since gone off (Another topic altogether). The Pros of the Lifestyle for me were: - It adds a level of excitement to your sex life, even outside of your lifestyle experiences that cannot be matched. - We built a much deeper level of trust and communication between each other. - Strange to say this, but it is almost a "Hobby" that you have in common. - It is a secret that you keep from your family and friends, which makes it exciting. - We grew to appreciate each other more. Our names will just be initials, and the names of others will be changed as well out of respect for them. I look forward to hearing about other's experiences, and answering any questions that you all may have.
  13. Thanks for sharing, Cpl1. I can say, from my point of view as a guy, that the other woman's level of interest in and excitement towards me has everything to do with how good or bad an experience it will be. My wife is always enthusiastic, and up for a good time. If there is something that isn't right, or weird, she will give a signal, and we will politely excuse ourselves from the situation. I have been in your position, exactly, on one occasion, and I wish that I had called it off. The other woman was much like you described your partner that night- Somewhat aloof, not really in to things, etc. My wife and her husband, on the other hand were hitting it off very well. I proceeded, thinking that things would turn around, but they didn't. As my wife was giving him oral, his wife and I had finally gotten naked. I was mainly touching her. His wife said "I think now is a good time for you to put a condom on and fuck me." I was semi-hard, definitely not at 100%. I decided to dive in, put a condom on my half limp dick, and fucked her. It must have been nerves and the partial erection because I lasted about 20 seconds before cumming. Basically, I think that she was just doing it out of a sense of duty to her husband. At that point, she and I sat there and watched her husband and my wife fuck for 5-10 minutes. Pretty disheartening. Was I jealous- Yes. Was I upset- A little bit. Did it keep me awake that night- Yes. Do I begrudge my wife for it- No. As we talked about our experience that night, we decided that going forward, we would do soft swap only until we knew that things were going to work out well with a couple. We also decided that we would start playing and getting naked with each other first, and let the other couple join in as they see fit. Essentially, we planed to make any future encounters more about us, and see what another couple could add, vs. trying to get a stranger turned on. Who knows what that other woman likes, what sort of day she has had, what sort of relationship issues or insecurities she may have, etc. I also learned that if I had any 2nd guesses, any inkling that the night would not be going well, that I would say something and head out. Take Care...K
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