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  1. Just an update. We played in separate rooms for the first time this past weekend. All in all, a great experience. I felt more focused on Tanya and enjoying the time with less distractions. There were moments where I thought what Claire would be doing as I could hear she was having a good time, but I have to admit it was fleeting moments and my mind drifted to other things.... Interestingly, it seemed to me Tanya was also a bit more aggressive and talkative, similar to how Claire was when she was alone with Tony. Maybe everybody is less restrained when the other spouses aren't around. I asked Claire afterwards how she liked it, and she said she likes it equally, so we will probably make playing separately a regular thing. Claire did mention that her and Tony did more snuggling and kissing than they normally do. Would this be a concern? We don't have a no kissing rule, so this isnt a new thing. Just that when we played together, they didnt spend that much time kissing. But Claire mentioned they made out for a while this time before they had sex.
  2. Long post, but here goes. Well, I called them yesterday. Tony answered and said he needed to say something. He told me one morning, him and Claire played. He was very apologetic. He was really sorry that he might have gone behind my back and felt bad about it. He admitted hormones got the better of him. We were planning to play the night before, but Tanya was not feeling well so everybody just retired early. He said came out of the bedroom that morning, and saw Claire doing yoga. She was braless, in a tank top and yoga pants. He said he was already horny but as soon as he saw her, it went ballistic. He admitted to flirting with her and some sex talk to see if she might be in the mood. So it turned out she was. He also said he told Tanya about this after and she told him he has to tell me about it. Good gal, that Tanya. He was very sorry that he might have ruined a good thing with us. I told him that I already knew since I saw some of it. He was surprised and ask if I was angry. Told him I was surprised but have talked to Claire and accepted it. Also told him I was actually more upset about what happened during their play. He wasnt sure what I meant. I said I saw that he finished in Claire's mouth and she swallowed. He said he wasnt sure why I was angry since Tanya usually swallows when she gives me a BJ. He understood when I told him, Claire almost never finiishes me in her mouth and to see her do it so enthusiatically with him was upsetting. He agreed and said he was surprised too and he gave her notice and asked again if she was sure before he came. I heard him tell her, although I didnt hear him ask if she was sure, although I might have missed it. Anyway, I told him I talked to Claire about it already, and things are OK. Told him I really appreciated him telling me directly. He thanked me and hoped this doesnt change things. He left since he had to take his son to baseball and so I talked to Tanya. Turns out she was OK with him playing with Claire since they have played separately before. She then asked me what I thought of playing separately. I told her Claire thought it was a positive experience and apparently Tony did also. She asked me if I want to try it. I told her, Claire and I have discussed it and she left it up to me. I told her I think I would enjoy the private time with her, just not sure how I would feel when I hear Claire's moans from the other room. I asked how she felt about it. She just said she wanted it for awhile now, just havent asked. That kinda made me happy. I told her we can try next time and see what happens. But I also told her I still want lots of time together since I love watching her and Claire play together. She just laughed and said dont worry, there is no way she is going to give up playing with Claire. She also said Tony brought up the subject of playing bareback and asked what we thought of it. Told her we are a bit unsure, mostly because they also play bareback with another couple. Truth is, I want to go bareback but Claire is hesitant because of the other couple but I wanted to have an united front. She said she understood, but the other couple is moving away by the end of the year and may not be a play couple with them after that. So I told her we will think about this again later. We chatted some more. Interestingly, playing separately was more Tanya's idea and bareback was more Tony's idea.
  3. Just got an email from Tanya. We were planning are next playdate together but she also mentioned that Tony had told her something from our trip that she wishes to discuss with me. My suspicion is that he told her about his session with Claire. I am not sure whether they have played separately before, so this might be an issue for her. Will find out when I call her tomorrow
  4. I wouldnt say what Tony wants, Tony gets. He never asked Claire to swallow as far as I know. Claire asked him how he felt seeing me cum in Tanya's mouth and he responded with his feelings about it. Unless his plan all along was using reverse psychology, I wouldn't say he asked for it. Also I know he and Tanya are very much into anal sex. In our initial conversations, we said Claire was not into anal sex. He has never once asked about it again with Claire. Having said that, I understand your point. Maybe the trip together was not the best idea, although that was something mostly Tanya and I planned out. I will keep in my mind if there are any more warning signs and maybe limit all the social time, but frankly so far I don't see much that raises concern.
  5. This is something that we both want. Claire also likes the feeling of the guy cumming inside her, and of course feels much nicer for me without the rubber. Its also a buzz killer putting and taking a condom off off when we switch partners during our sessions. We like to switch around with our partners, but having to put on/take off certainly reduces the amount of partner swapping we would otherwise do now. Claire decided to still stay on the pill now even though I had a vasectomy a few months ago. We didnt think a condom by itself is good enough protection from pregnancy when we do go swapping. Pregnancy is not really our concern, just the risk of STD if we go bareback. Tony and Tanya get tested every 6 months now, and I suppose everybody can get tested more frequently if we decide to go bareback, but still, a lot can happen in between tests. I suppose the best case scenario is we decide to be exclusive and get tested, but they have another couple they play with regularly too and we are not about to tell them to stop with that.
  6. Well, I had a talk with Claire yesterday about me seeing the incident. She was surprised when I told her, but she was happy that I wasn't angry. All in all, i think it went rather well. I felt much better after the talk and it helped clear out some things. What she said: Playing with Tony separately- As she had already mentioned briefly already, she said things happened quickly and got caught up in the moment. She thought I was still asleep and stopping everything to come wake me up was not the first thing on her mind. She apologized and said she will always tell me beforehand if there was next time. Told her I understood and that would be end of story. Dirty talk with him- It turns out they had a bit of a chat before they started getting busy. One of the things Tony mentioned was he liked it when Claire acted flirty/slutty. Usually, Claire is usually fairly conservative dressing, minimal make-up lady. He mentioned there was this one night we went out that drove him crazy with how she acted. Kinda like the wild librarian lady. When Claire mentioned this, I remembered exactly which night he was referring to. The four of us went to a party together. Claire wore this tight cleavage showing short black dress. I remembered she was flirty with him after a few drinks. When we got back to the hotel room after the party, he couldn't get enough of her. I remember them fucking several times the whole night. So Claire said she was doing the dirty talk because of what he had just said and wanting to drive him crazy. She had also mentioned she was less self conscious doing it when he was alone. She was not sure if she could do it if Tanya was there listening. That made sense to me. I told her I was just surprised since I never heard her say it to other guys before. And to the one that bugged me the most- Her swallowing his cum- Turns out this was a result of their chat too. She had asked him how he felt about seeing Tanya sometimes letting me finish in her mouth but Tony not being able to do it in Claire's. He admitted that sometimes he thought about asking her not to do it, but ultimately he decided that if that was something she wanted to do with me, then she should not have to stop just because he couldnt do it with Claire. He told her he is fine now, since her blowjobs were fantastic anyways. Well, Claire said she felt a bit bad for him and decided to do it at least once for him. I asked her how it was. She said it was ok, but probably not something she wants to do all the time and she told him that. He laughed and said once was more than he ever thought was gonna happen. I understood what she was saying in that she was just trying to make it 'fair' for everybody and it made me feel better hearing it. I was glad we had this talk but it also brought up a few questions too. She had mentioned she felt more at ease playing with him alone than when we were all together and Tony mentioned the same thing to her. Claire asked me what I thought of playing in separate rooms. I have mixed feelings. On one hand, I like watching Claire fuck but the thought of some private playing time with Tanya is appealing too. But then I might be wondering what Claire is doing at the same time. What are your experiences playing together vs separate? Another thing they talked about ( seems like they talked a lot in their chat) was going bareback. Tony asked Claire what she thought about it. I'm kinda sitting on the fence with this one. Sometimes I do have trouble finishing with one on so it would be nice without the condom. They are the only couple we play with now, however, they do play with another couple bareback. Seems with this one, we decide yes we want to go without and then 2 seconds later have second thoughts again. Do couples usually play bareback once they get to know them well?
  7. Maybe I shouldn't have called it logical, but more along the lines of the answer fitting of what I know about her. She is a pleaser and hates letting people down. She gets along well with Tony and I can see her doing it and trying not to disappoint him if he had wanted to do it bad enough. Whereas it would be less believable if she said she just wanted to swallow it, knowing how she has felt about swallowing in the past.
  8. [ After more thinking, I think this is exactly what is bothering me. I could let slide her not telling me beforehand since she thought I was asleep and she didnt want to wake me up to ask me or possibly even join in. What is bothering me most was seeing her take his load in her mouth and looking pretty eager doing it. What confuses me is I don't think it is an issue that its me that she doesnt want to do it with me. Ever since the beginning of our relationship she has said its not something she likes to do and has mentioned she didnt like her past partners before me to do it either. Even now, one of our ground rules for potential play mates is no cumming in mouth. So seeing her sucking it up like a freezie on a hot summer day is confusing. The dirty talk was a bit surprising. We do dirty talk ourselves, just I have never heard her do the talk with other guys. I chalk this one up to her feeling bolder since she is alone with Tony, something that has never happened before. I still would like to hear what she has to say about it though. Thanks everybody for the advice. Going to remember to do this calmly. I am going to sit down with her when we get a chance and let her know what I saw. We will talk and hopefully she will have a logical explanation for everything.
  9. Need some advice what I should do. My wife Claire and I, have played with another couple, who I will call Tony and Tanya over a year now. During that time we have gotten together probably close to ten times. We all enjoy each others company and get along remarkably well. The sex is fantastic and we always play together, same room. No jealousies, just good clean fun. We decided to take a little trip together, and that's were my dilemma comes in. We stayed together at a timeshare. It was a good time until the second last morning. It was real early in the morning around 5am, and I unexpectedly woke up. Claire was not beside me or in the room, but she was usually an early riser. I thought I heard some noises out in the living room so I thought I might go out and say morning to her. I walked into the hallway to see Claire giving a blowjob to Tony on the living room couch. I was a bit surprised to say the least. I have seen her blow and fuck him many times, and enjoyed watching it, but their encounters was always with me there. Watching this with me not knowing beforehand gave me mixed emotions. A bit of me felt this was like cheating. They were not aware I was there as I was still mostly looking around the corner. What made me even more unsettled was seeing some of Claire's actions. I could hear her do some dirty talk, saying to him how much she loved his cock, having it in her pussy, etc. In all the times together, I have not heard her do dirty talk to him. I guess she must have felt less inhibited with the spouses not around. Not sure. The final thing that has gotten me thinking was his climax. I could hear him say to Claire he was going to cum. Usually that would be her cue to take it out of her mouth and let him finish on her tits. She has never liked the taste or texture of cum in her mouth. In all the years we have been married ( over 10 years), I have finished in her mouth probably less than 5 times. Those times if I recall was on special occasions and took lots of pleading, lol. Well, after he told her he was going to blow, she just kept sucking. He blew his load in her mouth and she squeezed and swallowed every last drop. I have to to admit to some jealousy seeing this. I went back to the room and waited for her to come back. I wasn't sure how I would react when she came back. She came back about 5 minutes later. She was a little surprised I was awake, but I asked her where she went. She said she was out doing some stretching when Tony came out. They started chatting and then she admitted one thing led to another and then they had oral sex. I guess I missed the part when he ate her out. She asked if I was upset since I wasn't there, but she said she didn't mean for it to happen and that she thought I was asleep at the time. I told her it was ok, as long as she enjoyed it. But that's not entirely true, i am still trying to process everything. The four of us played again that night. The sex with Tanya was great, but the whole incident that morning was still in the back of my mind. So the question is whether I should confront Claire with what I saw and heard or just let it be? On one hand, I want to know she has to say, but I don't what this to blowup over something that might be insignificant and ruin our relationship with our playmates. We have had a great time so far, and it is hard finding a couple so compatible. Tanya is hot as hell, and I will be disappointed if wont be able to play with her again. Tony is a good guy too, and we have hung out together over beers.
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