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Valid points, some I have addressed. She asked me if I wanted a mmf just so I could have a mff....i told her know but I understood why she asked. By no means bragging but I've had mff threesomes, group, and several women before I met my wife. Knowing her, I believe she would love mmf, just afraid of fallout. I've brought up the night we met several times. ...but she said she only remembers being with me...i know, I know. I think she feels some shame because my buddy who made it happen has had hundreds of conquests..i think she feels stupid/used for being with him at all!

Thank you, very nice comment!

I've opened up the idea of clubs and she said she'd go...i think we'll both be nervous. I told her we'll just hang out and observe unless something wild happens and we'll play it by ear?

Sorry, LS?...i feel stupid..lol.

I've posted a few times and received great advice from many of you. My wife and I have not progressed much in the swinging department but we've been communicating much more about the topic. My goal is to make her feel comfortable about taking our sexuality to the next level a threesome. We've been together for 18 years and I still get hard just looking at her, I think her self image is holding her back. I tell her how hot and sexy she is, and guys everywhere find her attractive. I'm trying to create the perfect scenario, at least what I think she would want. S he's open to the idea of a mmf but is afraid of what if she enjoyed herself too much and how I would react? I tell her I'm very confidant and I want see her eyes roll to the back of her head. I tell her the more she enjoyed it the more it would turn me on! I tell her her I want to see her in ecstasy and yes of course it's for me too. She is very beautiful and deserves getting turned and having total pleasure, even by a a better looking, more endowed, longer stamina lover than me. I think I'm fine with it as long as I'm there for it. So anyway, I think I'm pushing a little much because I'm chomping at the bit. I give her full disclosure and she'll answer me comfortably but never has a follow up question for me. I tell her very vividly how sexy it would be to see her handling two cocks. Should I just hang back and let everything resonate with her. She is never surprised or disgusted with my thoughts. She's just reserved? I would say mildly interested?

Is planned always better than impromptu when it comes to swinging? It's been many years since we've had an experience and it was always due the right situation and unplanned. Now that I would like to see something happen again, I feel like my wife likes to have a little bit of an excuse if something happens. In other words, she would rather get caught up in something rather than have planned out and predictable. She is clearly curious and up for something but I think she likes not being held completely accountable. I'm fine with this, maybe my best play would be to plan and just don't give her all the details or pretend it's not planned?

My wife is embarrassed about how we met, but I reassure her that without that experience we may have never gotten together. We've had a couple of attempts at foursomes with friends, but either she was not attracted to the guy or there were too many party favors involved where the other party could not perform...I know we're amatuers! I've been bringing up the idea of threesomes more and more...even when We're sober. I just don't want jam it down her throat. We have few opportunities to get wild because of our schedules and kids.

We have great sex and are not coservative with each other, but I would love tob relive an old reality! I've told a few times and now I think I need to back off and let it resonate?

Yes, just want approach it wisley.

I like to think our situation is pretty unique...but perhaps not? I met my wife of 17 years after a buddy of mine said he was seeing someone casually and thought she was really cool and liked to have fun! He also said I should meet her. My buddy has been called "The Devil" by me my whole life, this is a guy who can make anything happen. Well, she was 23 and fresh out of a breakup as was I, she was having casual sex with my buddy because he has the gift of getting any girl in bed. We stopped by her apartment one night, very casual to drink a few beers...no expectation on my part and things turned awesome! She answered the door and I was amazed. She was too hot for this guy, wtf. She was too good for him. In my opinion, completely out of his league...looks and class wise. Our personalities were in sync and anyone could feel the mutual attraction. I didn't need my buddy...but the devil was there! Light conversation turned to provocative conversation and many drinks later my buddy simply got up and grabbed her by the hand and led her to the bedroom. It wasn't five minutes later that he was calling me in! She looked at me with almost a "what do think look?" She was so hot...I was naked and performing oral on her as she was on my buddy. (As I'm typing this, I wish I was a better story teller...cause it sounds like some cheesy hustler story...but it's not! I swear on my marriage). The night went on, he on her, me on her, both of us in her...a marathon of sex. I was so excited at the entire situation, it went on through out the night...sometimes one on one, sometimes taking turns and as I mentioned filling her at the same time. The next morning, they jumped in the shower together...I stayed in bed...being too sober perhaps? We made our departure, a little awkward but good. I kissed her and said I hope to see you again. Over the next 24 hours I grilled my buddy on how he knew this would happen and what was his relationship with her...cause I wanted to see her again! He said she was amazing but he didn't want a relationship and told me to pursue her if I wanted. I would have anyway...that is a fact. I called her three days later and asked her on a date...as if nothing ever happened. We saw each other for the next 750 days without one miss, and I proposed to her. One year later we were married. I've never told or wrote about any of this...only three of us know how my wife and I met. To be continued....