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  1. Yes we are married......and no she does not live in Florida. She did not want any personal info on here like location, etc. Yes we communicate........better and better all the time. We both liked some of the additional comments on here, but as she stated we are moving past this now, together......I personally have taken away a lot from this experience and going forward these mistakes just wont happen again. I realize my timing for question asking was far, far from ideal and going forward.....(if we do) we will have a much better game plan ahead of time.........and stick to it!!
  2. Okay so a little more follow up to this thread, I showed this thread to my wife the other night…….and she says I left out one major detail. So over the last year when we were discussing threesomes, swinging, everything in general…..my stance was that if we had a threesome, I was not overly interested in having sex with the other girl…..that I would if she (wife) was into it but not a major goal on my part. I will let this float for a bit and then show her the responses if any later.
  3. Wow, a lot to take in here on the last few comments......so I will try to address all of them.. First the beta / Alpha thing....I am not tooting my horn or anything but I am very alpha in our relationship. I dont have a problem with her going out because it makes her happy (prior to the boy friend thing) I am not a insecure, overbearing, jealous, husband.....if she wants to go out and have drinks with her friends its okay......she does the same for me and when we have a sitter we go out together. The "playing" seperate thing kinda took us both by supprise. But I definitly was the one that promoted and pushed it.....heres the thing I met the guy before they started flirting, so I know who he is and he knows who I am. He does not know that my wife tells me everything. He thinks she is cheating behind my back. She shows me the texts.....and maybe a glimpse of how fucked up I am, we will bang or I will have her blow me while she is sexting him on the phone and call her a dirty whore and all that kinda stuff.....it is fun for us. I dont think she has done more with him, again I have seen the texts it pretty much spells out what they have done....repeatedly...LOL!!!.....also that is just her style she doesnt like to have sex with people right away she teases the shit out of them....how do I know.....she did the same thing with me. As far as having a three some with her boyfriend, it would never happen, 1 she is not into MFM (I know weird) but she stands by it. I have brought it up numerous times. 2 he is just not that type of guy and from what we can best figure out he is not that sexually experienced. Also I know it doesnt conform to the typical rules of swinging but it would take all of the fun, danger, sneaking (even though she is not sneaking) around part out of it.....the naughtness I guess. However though, things are still good with the wife and I....she still has a moment here or there where she gets a little mad about the whole thing but not like really mad just a fleeting thought or emotion then its good again, I still think things are just new. Its kind of a weird situation really becasue she likes the whole secret life style, going to the club that no one knows about, she likes girls, she likes having a boy friend/play mate thing, but when it comes to like actual swinging it doesnt really set her off. We met a awesome couple a while back and I will mention it once and a while about calling them just to go out and see where it goes but I dont think she is interested becasue she doenst just like the casual sex thing. She likes the flirting and the chase.....you want me, try to get me thing. I dont know...............we are definitly not doing the "norm" from what I read on here but other than our one "issue" things have been going really good. Also I think her and the boyfriend are done, they were supposed to go out several times over the last week or so and he has bailed or cancled plans....so something is up with him. Which really kinda sucks becasue it was really just starting to get fun......I would tease her she would tease me and it would drive me crazy kind of like a self torture thing........I dont know I am weird with some things. I know there has been a lot of speculation as to my wifes motives and her reactions would probably make one think that especially over the internet. But I really dont doubt my wifes love for me and I definitly trust her, especially since we were able to work through this situation.....I really think since we made it though that we could make it though anything.......I cant imagine anything worse or at as high a level ever really happening.....and I am not trying to be nieve either I just think that as pissed as she was we were able to work through it and if something happened again we could do it again. I will also say this I have learned a lot also.....like pay a little more atttention to boundries and be a better mind reader...LOL!!!
  4. Okay, so I can put a little closure to this thread.....first off though I would like to say thank you for all the comments and advice. So after a nice long weekend, all is good. A lot more talking few smokes, few drinks, and a little time, things are all good. No divorce, no seperation, no vendictive getting even......we / I just basically went faster than what she thought she was ready for. She never had a problem with another girl giving me oral and said that she had thought of me having sex with someone else but just needed some more time to process it. So the first knee jerk reaction was anger, at me for going to fast, asking, maybe her a little bit for saying yes when really she wasnt ready yet, and probably a flood of emotions she wasnt ready for. At any rate we spent a lot of time together this weekend at home and going out and genuily had fun again. She is still going out with her "boyfriend" on ocassion and I guess we will be playing again at some point but I think I will make sure I take it a little slower next time. So after a little scare........I still think we have a pretty bad ass marriage!!! LOL!!!
  5. Well a lot more talking last night.....one thing I can say is at least we are communicating, except it just seems to be the same circle. She does not want to accept any responsibility for saying yes twice whats so ever.....its "you wanted to so I wasnt going to so say no" when in general "no" is word that rolls off her tongue quit easily for anything I want to do when we are together and she is not in the mood or whatever. She is just absolutly crusifing me with no regard for her actions what so ever We have discussed everything and just about every option I think avaiable...... I suggested for her go out this weekend and do whatever she wants if it will make her feel "even the score" or whatever then we totally quit. and her response is "oh I am"........how ever when I brought it up just quiting I would get no response or I dont know. Then she suggests we just seperate in the house and just do our own things seperatly.....I said absolutly not. I dont know, I am really close to the point of just saying screw it.........I feel I have done all that I can do and the ball is in her court if this going to work. Only I am starting to have doubts if that is what she is interested in
  6. We havent been married long enough for alimony in Ohio (I think) and she would get a shit load less then what I give her now if she went the child support route. I fork over almost 70% of my weekly income for bills expenses all that stuff and she handles the finaces......not many people do it that way but it has never been an issue for us......point is if all I had to pay was child support she would get maybe 1 of my paychecks every month vs. 70% of my pay every week. It wold not be a good finacial move for her.........and besides I would not give up my daughter for anything in the world and she nows it. She could take everything but not my daughter that aspect of things would get very ugly..................why am I talking about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. Well shit when you put it like that..........maybe I am just a blind ass. And I get your point about being beta but at the same time she would stay home with the kids so I could go out only I wasnt trying to hook up or anything........................dude now you really got me thinking...........I wouldnt think she would go through so much trouble just to try to leave me especially in our finacial situation, thing is she owns everything (on paper) other than the bikes even both cars. But I am the one who brings home more money.....if I go so does the house she could not aford it on her own.............who the hell knows...................now I am even more confused by this whole thing
  8. I know from my descriptions and what I am telling on here it may sound like that but I really dont think so...but then again what the hell do I know. I never gave her a reason to want or feel the need to leave she had all the freedom in the world all I asked was to be informed........shit I even watched the kids, without me she will have to get a baby sitter.
  9. LOL!! I literally already have 5 bikes..............but hell one more might make me feel a little better. And yes I dont think there anything more theraputic then a nice long ride......only shitty thing is I live in Ohio
  10. Thanks, unfortunatly she is on this vendictive I am going to go do something to hurt you kick at the moment....which isnt really going to hurt me just makes things worse......................I dont really know what is going on right now she literally just sent me one of those old timey looking e-cards via text saying "my wife finally gave me a threesome. She and her divorce lawyer fucked me." At any other time it would actually be kinda of a funny text.............oh well. If she does decide to divorce me at least I will have a hell of a divorce story:(
  11. Well long, long conversations last night. Emotions are high, to say my wife is pissed is a understatement. If I wasnt so persitant in trying talk about it it would definitly be over. I think we are making some progress but I think/hope it is just going to take some time. I appreciate all the comments and advice, I will check back and let you guys know what happens. It will be a dam shame if we fail though, we had a pretty bad ass marrage.
  12. Slevin I think you kinda hit the nail on the head. She loves attention and the fact that other people lust after her and are often offering/asking her to have threesome. Earlier when she first starting seeing her male friend it was "were just friends" which was true they went to high school together but then I could tell it was turning into something else quickly, and I dont think she would ever cheat on me but we have talked about it and see likes the secrecy the quick sexy texts and the whole game. When I asked her if she wanted to fuck him she said I dont know probably......then we talked more and I gave her permission (I hate how that sounds) to go and have fun as long as she told me everything and there were no lies. However it wasnt until I brought it up that I was feeling a little left out watching the kids all the time while she goes out and has fun that she started changing things around for me....which she did big time this weekend if she wasnt upset I would be the happiest freaking person in the world right now. I am getting a bit of the vibe of she wants her cake and eat it too....however she hasnt fucked her friend yet and I think that maybe that bothers her some...that I fucked someone first. Even though she is well on track to fuck her boyfriend anytime in the near furture. I dont know, I just texted her and we are going for a walk after we get home from work.....hopefully we can talk some things out.
  13. She isnt always partying with out me, we have kids and it is hard to get a baby sitter often....so I will stay home and take of the kids one night and she will do the same for me if I want to go out with my friends.....just she goes out a little more often than I do. I am good with that scenario, she had kids at a young age and missed out on going out early on....and she is just a fun person and likes to go out and dance and have a good time. I completely trust her and we have a very open communication level......(or so I thought, confused now) I know exactly how she feels because I felt the same way when she came home and told me that she gave her mail friend boyfriend or whatever you want to call it a blow job. Even though we had discussed it and I told her I was okay with it, it was still a lot for me to deal with mentally, especially since she was playing alone (with my consent) it was just a weird feeling.....and erotic and the same time. She knows about this site and has my username and password info, but again that is one of the weird things about her is that she is not into reading about other peoples experiences or problems or reading about swinging or even sometimes talking about it....but If I say hey there is a event at the club this weekend....Okay lets go. She is hands down the sexiest women I have ever met and she just excudes sexieness but at the same time it is hard to have the "propper" conversations with her becasuse she will say something like "I dont know I dont want to think about that right now"......"but if it happens it happens"....and now here I am with my gut all twisted becasue my wife is pissed as hell at me because I had sex with her friend.
  14. Oh boy I never thought I would be the one posting one of these long posts but here I am........................ So the quick back story, my wife and I have been married for a little over 4 years now. We have a very good marriage and are very much in love with each other. About a year ago or so we started exploring more of our sexuality in the sene of talking more openly, previous experiences, fantasies, etc.. She had been with girls before and actually had a one night fling with a female friend before we were getting married. Which I was dissapointed that I wasnt invited or involved in anyway but not mad and understood that it was just one of those spuradic things. But was very greatful that she told me a bout it and didnt hide it from me but wanted to see if it was something we could grow on and develop into something more fun. Sorry if this is a little sloppy I got a lot going on on my mind right now and I am probably glossing over a lot of stuff. Fast forward to this last year we have mad a few trips to the swingers club but nothing really much happened one night she made out with a girl and got all flirty but nothing really happened...but it was adding fuel to the fire and we both were having a lot of fun. She has been going out with her friends a lot lately which includeds a male friend of hers that I could tell right away there was something there so we talked about it a lot and I gave her full permission to go out with him and do whatever she wanted as long as there was full disclosure and at some point I got to have some fun to (with her not alone). So things were going good she was going out with her male friend and female friends haveing fun and I was reapping the benefits at home becasue she was coming home all horny and excited (for the record all she has done is given her male friend a blow job so far). So now her femlae friends find out about this and I dont know if it is what spawned this all off but they all want to bang my wife and have threesomes (the females) I swear I am not making this up. So now after the last two months of her going out without me she was going to set up a date for me to go out with one of her friends and have a threesome. We had talked about rules and what was acceptable and not......here is where the problem starts.......my wife hates to have things "planned out" she wants everything to be spontanious and exciting. So we had talked about limits but then also just kinda said well we can take it as it comes and see where it goes. Okay now down to my problem................ So last weekend is my turn to "have some fun". One of her friends (female) has been flirting with her big time to have a threesome.....and apparently she (friend) has been having threesome and foresomes with other couples recently which I had no idea about...not that it really matters just didnt seem like that type of girl. Anyway so we go out to a bar get some drinks and food dancing flirting have a great time. I bought one of those remote vibrator things for my wife and then gave the remote to her friend without telling her so her friend was playing with it all night teasing her and my wife was thinking it was me....fun, fun,. Then we went to our local swing club few more drinks, dancing, joking around with the vibrator. Then we decided to go and get a room in the back and oh I forgot I grabbed a bottle of whip cream from the last bar right before we left what a perfect way to break the ice and get things moving. So now we are in the back I was very, very sure not to spend or pay to much attention with her friend and make it all about my wife, So we are taking turns on my wife, I am watching, rubbing, licking, etc. then it was my turn one of our agrements was that she is fine with me getting oral from another girl. So they turn their attention to me and it was absolutly crazy I never thought anything like that would ever really happen in my life.....so this goes on for quit a little while actually I am having sex with my wife and as things are progressing me and her friend are slowly getting more touchy feely now I am kissing her breasts rubbing her with my wife and things are going good no tension everyone is horny and comming.......then her frined is kind signaling for me to bang her....by that I mean she jumped down on the couch in front of me and spread her legs and kind tugged my hand towards her......so I stop immediatly and look over at my wife which is right there and say hey should I fuck her and she said yes.......so I was just about to start then I stopped pulled my wife over to me and said hey are you sure about this while kissing her and rubbing her and again she said yes..............if you are still with me, this where I think I may have ruined the rest of my life. So we had actuall sex for a little bit not very long she came or at least acted like it...then I went and immediatly had sex with my wife kissing rubbing etc. after that we were all getting thirsty sweaty and just needed to take a break. At this point everything was still going great we went back out to the bar area got some water danced for a little bit then decided to head home. This is where I could tell things were not alright in the car my wife kinda started to get a little quite.....now her friend was still with us but I could just tell. we drop her friend off at her car and since she lives far away my wife just offered for her to come back home and stay at our place...I know what you are thinking but all the fun was over and this was just so she didnt have to drive far late at night. So we get back to our house and sat up in our garge to have a smoke a little night cap before we went in to bed some light joking we were talking about my wifes male friend all good conversation and she seemd to still be in a good mood. Then Sunday morning.............she is pissed, hurt, upset,....this is horrible. I cant believe you did that, you never said you wanted to have sex with some one else, what the fuck were you thinking, you name it, she is pissed, hurt, talking about leaving me, not sure if she loves me....every bad horrible thing you can imagine is happening right now. We are not yelling or cussing at each other. We have maintained a relativly calm level open communication and I have explained that it was just sensory overload, just sex, it didnt mean anything, I only love you and that she did something so special for me and that i am so appreciative of everything that she does for me. I am just not sure what to do at this point she has said that she planned on having sex with her male friend but that it just hasnt happened yet this was before the threesome.....so I really didnt think that it would be that big of a deal and she is playing alone. And I asked her twice, twice. I am sure I have left out a ton of other stuff that we have talked about in the past but it is hard enough tying to fit one night into a post let alone a year of conversations about this. I dont know what to do to fix this...........................
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