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I heard on the radio the other day that women when asked how many sexual partners they have had, usually say about 1/2 of the real number. I asked the Mrs about this and she said that sounds about right.

 

I'm curious if this is the case for most women in general, and if so, why lie?

 

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This question generally comes up in the beginning of most relationships .. THe last two i was in we agreed not to ask -- It really makes no difference other than knowing how much experiance has.

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What the hell did you expect? You ask them how much they weigh, and they lie. You ask them how old they are, (and if they're under 18 or over 39) they lie. Ask 'em if they've ever had a one-night-stand, and they lie. Ask 'em if their tits are real, and they lie. Ask 'em if their handbag is a "genuine" Gucci, or a knock-off, and they lie. Ask 'em if they've ever faked an orgasm, and they lie. Ask 'em if they ever faked one they had with you, and they lie again. And now you think they're gonna tell you the truth about how many boyfriends they've had? You're DREAMIN', brother! Lyin' is a woman's stock-in-trade!

 

They're all just a bunch of damn lyin' skanks, that's all.

 

If you want to know the truth about a woman, don't ask her. What's "true" about her is for you to figure out. Believe whatever you want to believe, and disregard everything else she tells you. Trust me on this one, you'll be a lot happier that way.

 

Damn, lyin', skanks....

 

From your buddy Jim, in Kentucky

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You are obviously not really involved in this Lifestyle if you have that kind of attitude towards women. I can't believe that a woman would want to be in the same room as you let alone be close to you. You list yourself as part of a couple, I can't imagine you having a very loving, caring or even close relationship with that kind of attitude.

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I assume you were just being sarcastic, JnCC. That certainly is a stereotype I'm familiar with.

 

I sure am glad I found a girl who does none of those things. ;)

 

-B

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What the hell did you expect? You ask them how much they weigh, and they lie. You ask them how old they are, (and if they're under 18 or over 39) they lie. Ask 'em if they've ever had a one-night-stand, and they lie. Ask 'em if their tits are real, and they lie. Ask 'em if their handbag is a "genuine" Gucci, or a knock-off, and they lie. Ask 'em if they've ever faked an orgasm, and they lie. Ask 'em if they ever faked one they had with you, and they lie again. And now you think they're gonna tell you the truth about how many boyfriends they've had? You're DREAMIN', brother! Lyin' is a woman's stock-in-trade!

 

They're all just a bunch of damn lyin' skanks, that's all.

 

If you want to know the truth about a woman, don't ask her. What's "true" about her is for you to figure out. Believe whatever you want to believe, and disregard everything else she tells you. Trust me on this one, you'll be a lot happier that way.

 

Damn, lyin', skanks....

 

From your buddy Jim, in Kentucky

 

Hey Jim ... How do you think a woman learned to lie .. from "pricks" who think that they are gods gift to women " when they are really nothing but lying, two face, back stabbing, two timing, snake in the grass, male whores in heat that cant control one of two heads that god gave them (but only enough blood to run one at a time! When one gets hard there is not enough blood to run the brain) So they make stupid ass statements like the one I just read.... no wonder you are divorced ... Do you think all women lie or stretch the truth? .... If they do it is to live up to an expectation from a dumb ass that is asking the question. We all have past .. and to tell you something else most men lie about there weight, height, shoe size, age, penis size, stamina (they say that they can last 2 hours and blow a load in ten minutes), If there teeth belong to them or the finance company. There are few men that can truthfully say how many women they have been with or one night stands (You forget it is acceptable for a guy to have as many one night stands as he can so he can be a stud muffin but if a woman has sex with more than one man in there life they are labeled a whore)...... So before you clean out someonelses closet grab a dust pan, broom and a box full of heftys to clean out your own ....

It is a shame that my husband had to come to the defense of women against this enlarged ego .... yours truly

Mr. and Mrs.

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You are obviously not really involved in this Lifestyle if you have that kind of attitude towards women. I can't believe that a woman would want to be in the same room as you let alone be close to you. You list yourself as part of a couple, I can't imagine you having a very loving, caring or even close relationship with that kind of attitude.

 

 

hes divorced ... read in his past post he says he is divorced.... GO FIGURE... :lol:

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ignoring the troll reply!!

 

I think generally women feel more of a stigma when it comes to how many sexual partners they have had in the past. There still is the double standard that it is more socially acceptable for a man to have had numerous partners, whereas a woman is seen in a less than flattering light if she has been sexually active.

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Lying is a part of the European culture. Don't ask me why but the one thing the Native Americans could never understand about the European Invaders was why they lied. The Indians even came up with a term for it: White eyes.

 

The eyes can tell you a lot about a person, much more than whether or not he or she is lying.

 

In today's culture, where there are expectations of all people, it's probably not surprising that people lie. They feel they have to live up to those expectations.

 

I've known men who took a lot of pride in the creative lies they used to "get in a woman's pants." I don't know how many stories I listened to in college and the military of "what I told her" and how "she fell for it."

 

I don't think the telling of lies is restricted to either sex.

 

Mr. Alura

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Mr. Alura

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"For a good life:

Work like a dog. Eat like a horse. Think like a fox. And play like a rabbit."

— George Allen

 

 

It would be appropriate to add 'and lie like a European' ...........

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If women divide their number of partners by two, then men multiply their penis length by two. Some people are just dishonest. Most are not thank God.

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Thanks for a bit of history, now I know what a white lie is. Without starting WWIII, let me try to explain why I ask. Obviously this is a loaded question, one that shouldn't be asked if one can't handle the answer or shouldn't be answered if she doesn't trust the guy with that kind of info. But if it is possed, and if it doesn't matter like people claim, then why is it not worthy of an honest response? Granted we all have our little secrets and like my wife says, "Some things are better left unsaid", but to lie about it, I don't believe is necessary. I understand the influence society has on our views of sexuality, but this site seems to break away from that and focuses more on honesty despite what should and shouldn't be acceptable sexual behavior. That's why I pose the question here.

 

In my case my wife lied about it, big time, but to clear her concious she told me a few years after marriage, double what said the first time, and then ten years later double again. It's hard to explain the feeling I had when she finally came clean, but it was not good, felt like I'd been tricked, like being sold a used car where the odometer had been rolled a few times more than I was led to believe. (That would explain the rod knock I was wondering about when we really get going!) She said if she was honest about it at the beginning, then it would have changed things. I don't think so, but I honestly can't say either way. But I can say, it's my life too, and I deserve the opportunity to make decisions based on truth, not lies.

 

Honesty is something I value highly and believe is always the best way to be, especially when starting a new life together.

 

In all fairness, I should have had an idea of what I was getting into when she slept with me the first night.

 

Love ya, Honey!

 

Butch-

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Butch,

 

Ya got lied to, it is all water under the bridge now. Yes you should have been told the truth at the time. My best advice is, if you are happy overall, let the subject drop off the radar and leave it there. Bringing it up again is only going to breed animosity.

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Some women lie about the number of partners have for the same reason some men lie about the length of their penis: it sounds better to the opposite sex.

 

Like EvilMJ said, there is still the stigma with a woman the number of partners she's had. Maybe men feel threatened by it, the possibility he is being compared to somebody else. I've always said it didn't matter as long as I was the only one right now (well other than swinging :) ).

 

Mr. WS

 

P.S. I'm kinda' uncomfortable with this troll using my avatar... :lol:

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Hi Butch,

 

I don't think all women lie, if my wife lied I would think she would have picked a smaller number. :lol: For my part I don't understand why a women would lie about it but I'll have to admit that it wouldn't make any difference to me how many partners she has had in the first place. I've tried pretty hard and I'm pretty convinced that you can't wear it out. :D I have heard this before though and I have also heard that men tend to exagerate how many partners they have had, if I had done that I can assure you I would have picked a bigger number. :o It might be that these women think that it would upset the guy they are lying to and so figure a little white lie would cause less stress to the guy. I'm not defending them because, to me, honesty is way more important than how many people someone has did the horizontal boggie with but lets face it, everybody lies sometime to avoid hurting someones feelings.

 

Say hi to DD for us.

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P.S. I'm kinda' uncomfortable with this troll using my avatar... :lol:

 

So are you trying to say your not him.......you must be twins or something because you look the same to me. :D Just kidding, sometimes my evil side pops up and I just can't help myself. :hahaha:

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Okay, I guess I owe everybody a serious answer, if only so some folks can "unpucker" before they go for their morning sit-down.

 

If you want the downlow, clinical explanation of "why women lie to men about their sexual history" pick up a copy of "Anatomy of Love: A Natural History of Mating, Marriage, and Why We Stray" by Helen Fisher, Ph.D. It's 10 bucks on Amazon, and answers your question in far more detail than I can.

 

If you can't wait that long, I'll summerize it for you; Basically, it has to do with the traditional roles attributed to men and women. "Men are the providers and protectors, women are the nurturers and the sustainers." When a women "lies" about her sexual history, it's because she wants her man to believe that not only is HE is the father to their children, but that no other man possibly could be. It's an evolutionary thing. The whole idea here is that our bodies (our DNA, actually) are trying to replicate copies of ourselves, and it's in our own best evolutionary interest to protect those offspring. When a woman becomes pregnant, she knows it will be her DNA that she's passing along to the world. But the man has only her word and reputation to go by when deducing who's fathered the child. If it's commonly known that she's had sex with a number of males, the odds that a given child is his diminish precipitiously.

 

That, (according to Fisher) also explains why women are more tolerant of male infidelity than males are of female infidelity. A women always KNOWS whose baby she's having...HERS. As long as she is being provided for, what does it matter if it's by the natural father, or somebody who thinks he's the natural father? Fisher also explains why monogamy is not in a woman's reproductive interest, while the appearance of monogamy is essential to it.

 

(By the way, none of what Fisher writes implies that we can't be loving and caring step-parents, only that we men tend to be a lot more dilligent about supporting and protecting our kids when we know they're OURS. Or more specifically, when we have no reason to believe they're could be somebody else's)

 

Remember, this is all caveman shit. It describes behavior that has evolved in men and women over the last 100,000 years or so. Only in the past 30 or 40 years..."mere seconds ago," in evolutionary terms...have we developed effective means of birth control, in-vitro fertilization, and DNA testing. The effect those are having in social mores are already evident...women are becoming much more openly sexual, while men (and society in general) are becoming much more tolerant of that behavior. Could you imagine Erica Jong becoming a best-selling author, "Sex and the City" being a #1 TV show, or a popular television hunk marrying a porn star, prior to 1960?

 

It's really not as nerdy of a book as it sounds. It'll keep you entertained longer than "Seed of Chucky" for about the same price.

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Thanks for the insight, sorry for the generality, it should have read why do "some" women lie? with the interest in the women's response to see how common this really is and the reasons why. I guess it's just one of those things, like asking about their weight or their age, don't need to go there. It doesn't really matter to me now anyway how many strange dicks she had before we met, but for some reason I think it did 17 years ago.

 

I think what bugs me most about this is not so much that she lied, but that I'm a bit jealous of her experiences. I feel like I missed out. The ironic part is, in a way, I respect her for it. I've had to deal with this curiosity and the desire to fulfill it, where as she seems perfectly satisfied with just me.

 

She is willing to let me explore a little now and looking forward to progressing with her in the lifestyle. She is interested in swinging but her desire and curiosity to be with another man is slowing us down a bit. That's ok because when she is ready than I should be ready by then. ya think?

 

Hey Mr and Mrs GT, DD says hello!

 

Butch-

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FunCalifCple wrote:

 

It would be appropriate to add 'and lie like a European' ...........

 

HeeHeeHee.

 

I don't think George said that, though. :)

 

Mr. Alura

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Okay, JnCC. That was an interesting post. Keep it to that rather than that trolling crap and I'm more than happy to have you around here. :cool:

 

What you are saying I heard several years ago with the theory, and subsequent studies that prove it, that babies look more like the father up to a certain age. This helps prove to Grog the Caveman that the child is his, insuring it will be protected and fed. As I recall, in studies people could match a baby to it's father over 80% of the time, but to the mother less than 30% of the time.

 

Also, in evolutionary terms, sometimes Grog may have the better genes for survival of the youngster, the clan, and the species in general, but Unk might make the better provider and father to the child. So fidelity for the woman was not in the best interest of survival of her offspring. And for men fidelity was not in the best interest of survival of the species in general. The more seed they could spread, the more children born, the higher the odds of many reaching breeding age, and so on.

 

Mr. WS

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I had been with a lot of men as I came of age in the late 70's early 80's . I figured I better tell my husband before one of my big mouthrd friends did. That's what made bu feel so free to discuss swinging with me. He had as many people in his lifetime as I had on a weekend in 1982, so now he get's to catch up. By the way I grew up in the NYC metro area and he grew up in India and the UAE..no sexual freedom there.

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I remember hearing that it was a rule of 3. Women typically cut their number down by a third, while men tend to triple their number. I think most women are ashamed to admit the number of people they've had sex with.

 

Me personally, I don't even answer anymore, because I can't give an honest answer other than "I don't know". I stopped counting when I started swinging, and at this point I'd have a hard time sitting down and figuring out just how many there were before that.

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While it is possible that my wife lied about her expierences I don't think so. There is only 1 that I am sure she lied about for years until she recently told me about him after I found a letter about him in an old box of papers. She said she lied about him because we were coworkers and they had developed an emotional bond before their single sexual encounter. The rest she told me about early in our relationship. One night about four months into our relationship we were sitting in the dark drinking wine. She started telling me about all the things she had done between 14-25 years old. She said she was actually trying to scare me away when she told me about her "coming of age" in a swinging environment. Sharing partners with others in her clique including 3-sums and 4-sums. What she didn't realize in the dark was that I was very excited hearing about the things she had done and saw the potential of opening the door to the swinging world.

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I was told by an older woman before I got married to never revel how many sex encounter you had to your husband. When I asked why, she said they seem to always want more information, and sometimes your sex life was better. I try to be very truthful, but my sex life before I married was very wild, and my husbands was not. It makes his ego feel better.

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Ok, I here what your saying, but whats wrong with giving up the nasty details?

 

Ego aside, I like hearing about it, it makes me hard. So I say tell me more so I can enjoy them. I would tell more, but shes already heard them, didn't take long.

 

It's interesting what we can and can't remember about our past. The mind does funy things with good and bad memories especially with alcohol thrown in, although I think the really good ones seem to stick.

 

 

Butch-

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like being sold a used car where the odometer had been rolled a few times more than I was led to believe

 

See above for a good example of why some women feel compelled to lie about the subject.

 

No offense meant here, but ... some women can be very intuitive. Your wife may have picked up on the fact that you see a correlation between women with sexual experience and "used cars." And she decided to keep her past to herself, at least for a long time, because of that.

 

It doesn't really matter to me now anyway how many strange dicks she had before we met, but for some reason I think it did 17 years ago.

 

Exactly. She probably sensed it mattered to you back then, and reacted accordingly.

 

No need to be jealous. We all have our own pace, and it can be fun playing catch up ... if that turns you both on. facelick

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Good point, no offense taken. I hear what you are saying and you are correct. That is a big reason why she lied.

 

When we met, I made it obvious how I felt about it, and it only makes sense tell someone what they want to hear when you really like them. As opposed to something that could come back in a negative way. It has to do with the level of trust. (Funny how these things trickle out AFTER you're married.)

 

No offense intended, just a goofy analogy from a car guy that loves the beauty and character of old cars regardless how many times the odometer's been around.

 

Butch-

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it only makes sense tell someone what they want to hear when you really like them. As opposed to something that could come back in a negative way. It has to do with the level of trust. (Funny how these things trickle out AFTER you're married.)

 

Yes, when you look at it that way ... it makes sense. And it's a bit of a compliment. She liked you so much, she withheld what she thought might "scare you off" ... until you could get to know all of her. And even better, clearly her trust for you has grown during marriage to where she knows now she can lay out the facts without fear of judgment. That's the beautiful part.

 

just a goofy analogy from a car guy that loves the beauty and character of old cars regardless how many times the odometer's been around.

 

Aww, now that made me smile. :D

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Due to my (Mr. Cpl) upbringing and experiences as a child and young man, Mrs. Cpl did lie about her experiences. Since she was only 16 when we started dating, this was probably a good idea. She also misled me to believe that she was older than that. hard to know if she is at Tech school or high school when I am working in a different town, and she hangs out with post high school people. Be that as it may: She finally started letting things trickle out after about 10 years together. As an earlier poster stated: A woman knows what to do to preserve her ineterests. If I had known how slutty she was when we started dating, she would have been nothing more than a conquest to me. After a while, feelings did grow, and I began to love her. I was still young and possesive enough that I felt threatened any time another man looked at her. "Oh my god, she might leave me for him." After many years, two children, death in the family, and my family hating her (if she wasn't such a slut she would not have gotten pregnant out of wedlock: that's a preacher for you, double standard). Her family hating me (Mrs. Cpl's mother even tried to hook her up with another guy while we were married) we realized that this IS forever. I realized that if my family treating her like shit ( and since that didn't work me & the boys too) and her moms undermining us, did not split us up, othing and no stud muffin would or could. We are now to a point in our lives that nothing else matters. We are happy and can be completely honest and open with each other. I can say that the only time I lie to her now is at Christmas and her birthday. But then again if you knew how she snoops, you would too. I can also say that I do not beleive that she has lied to me about ANYTHING other than chrismas and birthday gifts in at least 10 years.

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Why do women lie? Well first, as long as there are no lingering issues with having sex in our past (disease, emotional scars, etc.), is it really anyone else's business?

 

I've lied before because I didn't want to appear easy or slutty. And believe me, my number are way low before meeting Mr. Fun (now, the numbers have doubled since meeting Mr. Fun, because of our fun! LOL). He is still amazed at the low numbers.

 

I have never asked him how many people he's been with. I don't think I want to know. Some men get turned on with knowing how many numbers ... he loves to hear about past experiences I've had. I don't think I'd have that same feeling.

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I think a lot of women lie because they have to. Granted, most of us dudes in the lifestyle don't get too hung up about it, but in the vanilla world, it's a whole different ball of wax.

 

How many women have been called skanks or sluts back in high school because they slept with more than one guy? If your lady was not the brundt of those comments, she sure knows somebody who was. If a woman is labeled as promiscuous, she immediately loses respect from a lot of men, often including the one she loves. Men in the vanilla world don't make it easy for women. They want women to look like prostitutes, but not act like it, except with them. God forbid a woman enjoy sex as much as a man and not apologize for it.

 

That's what's great about this lifestyle. My lovely wife can be as big of a slut as she wants to be, without judgement, derogatory remarks or public scorn. She doesn't have to lie because she knows she's accepted as a human being.

 

Fuck away ladies, and God bless 'ya. If you want only one man in your life or the entire fifth fleet, more power to you!

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(Mr BeDeviled ... Highly Embarrassed) the above post should have been after "midnight" on page two ... I'm very used to a hierachially formatted forum ... sorry for the mistake :confused:

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I remember hearing that it was a rule of 3. Women typically cut their number down by a third, while men tend to triple their number. I think most women are ashamed to admit the number of people they've had sex with.

 

Me personally, I don't even answer anymore, because I can't give an honest answer other than "I don't know". I stopped counting when I started swinging, and at this point I'd have a hard time sitting down and figuring out just how many there were before that.

 

i totally agree with your post. When i met my bf he asked me how many men i'd slept with before him and i told him 16. The problem was one nite i got drunk and during a drunken phonecall he asked me the real number and i simply replied " you dont want to know!". A few days later he kept bugging me about so i told him. The real number was 43. He then got agro at me for lying about how many people i'd slept with. Its a no win situation!!

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Never having been much in demand, myself, why would I look for a woman to share my life with who nobody else would want?

Never asked because I never cared.

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I don't like that question when there is an agenda... The number of people I have slept with does not give you relevant information about my character. If you are asking that question and I sense that you will use the answer to judge me then I am not telling. The only situation in which that question is appropriate is one in which I feel respected no matter what my answer is.

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I don't think it's anyone's business how many sex partners one has had. I think it's a question that should not be asked. Now if someone wants to volunteer that information, that's something else.

Athenagirl

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the older guy i'm seeing at the moment asked me this last nite and i was a bit hesitant in telling him it was pretty close to fifty. He was a bit surprised because of my age but he seemed quite accepting of it which is what i like about him. He said it was great to see a woman who embraces their sexuality and isn't afraid to let social norms get in the way of them satisfying themselves and other people. I just thought that was a really great way to look at the concept.

 

Then afterwards he said.. "so am your lucky half century???". To me it had a bit of a double meaning because he was close to the 50 man i've slept with and he is also 50 years old! .. i said to him "babe lets celebrate the half century!" hahaha

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Actually, it was my wife that asked me that question. My response was, "well...." and I had to think about it and start counting on my fingers. I didn't ask her because it didn't matter to me. Still doesn't.

 

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We have been married for 28 years and I have steadfastly followed the "don't ask, don't tell" policy concerning her sexual escapades before we got married. I figured if I did ask she would just lie anyways.

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I heard on the radio the other day that women when asked how many sexual partners they have had, usually say about 1/2 of the real number.

 

I'm curious if this is the case for most women in general, and if so, why lie?

 

I've also heard this and I can only think that it goes back to what society as a whole has done: It seems like over the years from what I've seen the social circles among many women have imposed the thought or idea that sex with multiple partners for women is a bad thing. I also realize that this is just the opposite with men, where as sex is almost viewed as a positive aspect of a guy in many male social cirlces.

 

As a result of the different views of individuals of different genders: Many women have had this value installed in their subconcious mind (at a minimum) from an early age, but at the same time hormones are hormones and women want to have sex just as much as men.

 

This misinterpreted view of sex with multiple people rarely prevents women from having sex with different people over the years, but when many women are asked, "How many partners have you had?", the view/idea/thought that "too many sexual partners is bad" would most likely hang in the head of most women in similar societies.

 

At the same time our society discourages lying or else some women might be inclined to go to the extreme and say "just one" or "I'm a virgin". So on top of one society imposed ideal of "women who have multiple partners are bad" (which to set the record, I don't agree with this), you also have a more deeply rooted moral dilema (don't lie) that conflicts with the sexual ideal.

 

As a result of the "don't lie": Most women probably won't go to the extreme, with the answer of 1 (unless it is only 2 or 3), because that's too big of a lie. However, because of the idea that society or someone has imposed in the values of many women (that multiple sexual partners for women is bad), most will still reduce the number, when answering "How many sexual partners have you had?" So it will most likely fall in the middle or about 1/2 the actual number. The lie is to be viewed as less bad, and as I implied earlier, the lie is some how not as big as it could of been, so some think the lie is justified as "it's not totally lying."

 

Many guys lie when answering the question now. But, I think more guys would be too macho to admit it, but if society had imposed the view on the opposite gender, we would probably be more inclined to tell the same lie. So as you can see I partly blame society. However, I don't advocate lying, but I don't agree with the sexual ideal that sex with multiple partners is some how bad. "practice makes perfect", right.

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This is the biggest double-standard... why do we lie about our past... so it doesn't seem bad in front of the eyes of our future partners.

 

My husband asked this same question when we met and out of my 3 husbands I have had so far he would be the least experienced (only 4 partners including me) but I still told him the truth.

 

When I met him I told him I'd been in the lifestyle for a bit over 20 years so the number was high! When I did tell him the number (the real number!) he was shocked!! The poor guy nearly fell of his chair!!

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I think men lie just as much as the ladies about sex . Men lie and overembelish stories about their conquests and women don't tell the whole story or don't tell their true body count. Personally I don't care about body counts, I do want to know if the lady I am with has had sex with people I socialize with. 

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Why is it that the number of different sexual partners is important rather than sexual activity overall?  Why is a woman who has infrequent vanilla sex with ten different men over a ten year period considered more experienced, slutty or whatever compared to a woman who marries a guy and over the same ten years has sex with her husband twice a day every day and does every act imaginable? 

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14 hours ago, couplers said:

Why is it that the number of different sexual partners is important

Because for men fidelity is instinctually important to ensure paternity of the child the woman he has committed to is theirs.  These instincts developed before birth control and paternity tests.  So a woman who has faithfully fucked her husband ten million times is ok, but the woman who has had ten partners is not.

 

I'm an odd guy because I am proud of the fact that my wife's number is five times mine.  Although as she has pointed out as a previously married man, I had much more sex than her.

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I worked with a guy once whose wife never paid the bills, and he had no idea what she did with the paycheck.   He had cars and furniture repossessed and his electricity, as well as telephones disconnected plus water more than anyone I have ever heard of.   He had to borrow money from his parents and couldn't get credit anywhere as well get medical anywhere except the emergency room.   Now all that said, one day a fellow worker found out that his wife had been cheating on him.   Confessed to us it hurt him real bad but he forgave her.  He didn't divorce her.   Now, the guy I told you about first, blew up and said no way I would keep that _ od d___ bit__!   He should of divorced her!   An old man nearby said, "Sir, I don't care for your language and second you should have respect for all women.   It sounds to me that the only thing you value of your wife is her pussy ---- not the person.   She is a human being first with a soul and feelings.   They risk their lives every time knuckle heads like you knock them up and have no sympathy for them.  That man understands that.   He became her eternal companion because of who she is and care for her, not own her.  He understands a woman's privates are not who a female is.   They are only a nice necessary package that is attached to them.   His desire is to make her happy.   She knows that now.   He proved it in the most selfless way.   I bet my life she will give her life for him.   Son, you should ask yourself will your wife die for you?   Better yet, he went on, will you give your life for her no matter who she has sex with?  Which is more important her privates or the woman?  Have respect for women.   They make us all who we are.  That simple speech I believe changed him.  I remember it a lot.   I saw many times when that TV camera pan the bench in a college football game those huge players jump up and start waving at the camera and yelling ----------------HI MOM!!!!!!!!!!   My wife has had sex with many men.   That makes her happy because it's fun.  I've been asked what if she leaves you for another man.   I say she doesn't have to leave me for him.  They can move in.  After 53 years of marriage, I can use the rest and above all I know I can count on where the paycheck goes and that the bills will be paid.   Now about the topic of this Form.   Don't judge people so much from their past.   Hope and pray they have learned good things and character from it.   If you are still awake, thank you for reading.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, older couple said:

those huge players jump up and start waving at the camera and yelling ----------------HI MOM!!!!!!!!!! 

And if they are ever in trouble who is the first person they call?  Their mother. 

 

3 hours ago, older couple said:

what if she leaves you for another man.   I say she doesn't have to leave me for him.  They can move in.

That's what my husband allowed me to do, move in my boyfriend.  

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