swinging is a Sexual Disorder?

[XMonkey]

Originally Posted by txduo2000

By the way ... as you all know, you can look in the "Who's Online section" at just about any given time and see that there are sometimes hundreds of "guests" who are just browsing the site.

Hmmmm. Wonder how many of those "guests" might just be folks who outwardly criticize this lifestyle? What might the percentages be?????

Food for thought .......

Just a thought - is there any way to set up a poll for the guests so that we can see how many approve and how many do not?

[curiouscouple4f]

Gee, for a sick person I feel pretty darn good. OH, and the more fancy names those psycologists have to label people with the more money they make from people running to them to get make "NORMAL" again. (I don't put great stock in "normalicy)
"Mrs."

[Alura]

"Normal" is boring.

Mr. Alura

[txduo2000]

Originally Posted by Alura

"Normal" is boring.

Mr. Alura

Dito Ahhhhh so very very true ... and isn't that the general consensus among our collectively "sick" minds and perversions?

[BorisNatasha]

Originally Posted by Miss_Piggy

Treatment would probably be in the form of cognitive behavioural therapy. In short, this usually means to help a particular individual recognise certain types of thoughts as well as the behaviours that typically go with said thoughts. Working to elliminate the problematic thoughts will in turn help to elliminate the behaviour.

aka Brainwashing!

Somebody should come up with a 'cognitive behavioural therapy' that makes people stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and fix their own lives. Would be even better if they could fit it in between reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard and Jerry Springer, then beam it into the bible belt. Then we might see some progress in this country!

Boris

[ALilOEverything]

Nail biting, knuckle cracking...

Sad thing is I do both, maybe I should record myself doing them and that will stop my bad habits

[Miss_Piggy]

Originally Posted by BorisNatasha

aka Brainwashing!

Somebody should come up with a 'cognitive behavioural therapy' that makes people stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and fix their own lives. Would be even better if they could fit it in between reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard and Jerry Springer, then beam it into the bible belt. Then we might see some progress in this country!

Boris

I think the important thing to keep in mind is that such therapys are in fact intended for people who truely ARE sick. People who are doing harm to themselves or others or people and those who have a particular behaviuor that interferes with their daily functioning. It may not appear so useful to you because you aren't sick. But for someone who really is suffering psychologists offer degree of hope.
I can agree that there are many people who do little more than fill the pockets of psychologists. BUT, what if you have a problem and you have no idea how to fix it? What if the cause of your problems isn't apparent to you? What if you don't even really know what your problem is? Sometimes giving a problem a name is a relief. It can help with acceptance. It can also help people heal.
An example. Maybe I feel unhappy all the time. And I don't let people get close to me. I also have no goals or direction. I convince myself that I just have a rotten personality. I'm mean and lazy. In fact, my situation has become so severe that I've stopped eatting. Nobody likes me and I don't like anyone. They don't like me because I'm just a bad person. I have no intention of changing these behaviours. What can I do? It's just my personality right?
Well, maybe not. Maybe I'm depressed. But I just never knew it. Maybe now that I know that I'm suffering from depression (I'm talking clinical depression not just feeling kind of sad) I can start to feel a bit of hope for the future.

These are the things clinical psychologists are concerned with.

I guess my point is that sometimes a person's problems are beyond their scope to deal with. They can't just "fix their own lives."

[BorisNatasha]

I was actually aiming that comment about fixing their own lives at the morally righteous who know what is better for us than we do. My post was intended to be light hearted, but we all know how hard is is to get 'tone' across in a written post on the internet.

I was certainly not arguing that psychologists/psychiatrists are not needed by people who have mental illnesses. In fact, I have personal experience with the example you listed, having been treated for severe depression in the past while going through a divorce.

I will argue that the commonality shared by the people on this board is not in need of fixing.

Boris

[Durgan]

Originally Posted by intuition897

LOL, yup we're just a bunch of perverts! Perverts, with a capital "P"!
Chicup, if I thought it would do you any good, I'd say be my guest, but you can't argue with stupidity. The forum I was on is the one belonging to the local newspaper that ran the story about the swinger's club under attack in Muncie. This is the story:
http://www.thestarpress.com/articles...-5538-001.html
and this is the forum:
http://www.thestarpress.com/Forums/v...er=asc&start=0

Chicup, your intelligence ...

My Comment for what it is worth.
Without studying the issue too much,it looks similiar to trying to have a logical, meaningful discussion about religion if one is non-religious and the other is deeply religious. Never the twain shall meet, but for the sake of peace it is a good idea to pass each other by.
Durgan.

[Zoe&Wash]

Originally Posted by intuition897

....So! Anybody on the board know how to develop a bullet-proof research project that would stand up to the scrutiny of...whoever it is that discredits this stuff? .... We need someone who is neurotically detail-oriented, annoyingly thorough, and a dyed-in-the-wool perfectionist.

Okay. I think I finally understand how all this psychiatrist/psychologist mind-altering stuff works now.

We need someone who's neurotic to tell the rest of the world we're not as psychotic as some "normal" people think we are.

I knew there was a reason I didn't like "normal" folk! They just don't know how to have a good time!

Z

[curiousagain]

You know, I read the first couple of pages on that forum and got some very good laughs, then I realized some of those people are serious. yeah, stupidity, doesn't begin to describe some of it. We all know some people like that though. good grief!!

[tncinmd]

I wouldn't be too harsh in judging others reaction to what we do. They're just seeking a level of "normal" where they can be comfortable. They want to pass this on to their children without fear of a level of societal chaos in morality that would lead them to "aberrant" behavior. It's understndably human.

The fact that the human experience proves this to be unworkable, is something from which they're seeking protection. We try and establish all kinds of norms of behavior. It even happens here, as anyone can see from a cursory reading of any number of threads.

You need a tough skin to do what we do in light of how society feels about our activity in general. As long as they're not seeking to punish us for it by passing laws, we're content in leaving them to their beliefs. We're not going to tell them how to live their lives, even if they seem to be hell-bent on doing the same to us. Drives 'em crazy, too.

[curiouscouple4f]

Originally Posted by BorisNatasha

Would be even better if they could fit it in between reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard and Jerry Springer, then beam it into the bible belt. Then we might see some progress in this country!

Hey, we're from the bible belt ya'll, heck I really did marry a preacher's son
We both have very deep faith as well as high sex drive....
Oh, and by the way, the bible itself says that a woman should please her husband in all ways, It also says that in regards to sex, what passes between a husband and wife (no restrictions) is sanctioned by marriage and God. There are NO exclusions to that, and many instances where the husband took another woman to satisfy himself, and there were no reprecussions from God because it was approved by the wife....
(I think I should get down now...) soapbox

"The Mrs."

OH, and my husband owns two seasons of the Dukes of Hazzard, and the Pilot show. (I just wish I could find DVD's of the original Transformers and ThuderCats cartoons)

[chastityrings]

Those people are NOT "normal" they are simply repressed and I for one feel that they should all be locked up in an institution and made "well". In fact maybe rubbing up against strangers would be a good first step in their therapy!! After their lobotomies of course>