Not Sure What to expect of our first time

[Vespertine]

Since we are knew to the swing scene we were curious of what to expect when getting together with another couple.

We'd like to do a full swap but what we have in mind is more along the lines of group sex--all play together.
Is this the norm or do you usually pair off and stay with one partner?

Mr. V is giving me dirty looks and telling me not to post such a stupid question !!
But I am really curious (and so is he, btw) if what we have in mind is what usually happens.

We've had three-somes and imagine being with a couple to be like that with just one more person thrown in the pile.

Is this what we should expect?

It all depends on the comfort level of the slowest person.
But lets say that all are interested in same room full swap.

Basicaly (from our experiences) what happens is a swap. The woman has sex with the man from the othe couple and vice-versa. There can also be some sex between the couples themselves but most of the attention is focused on the person from the other couple.

We just kinda go with flow and that is usualy how it works out.

Let me add a little more on how it USUALY gets started (sex that is).

Someone out of the 4 will start paying a little more attention to the person of the opposite sex from the other couple. Maybe a neckrub or foot rub or maybe even some kissing. Then the other two will follow the lead and start their own 4 play. Before you know it everyone is naked, fucking and having a great time!!

[Vespertine]

Thanks for answering our question.
Now we at least know what to expect.

How uncommon is it for the two couples to play together?
Is this something we should expect to happen at times or is this something we should initiate if we expect it to happen or is it considered a among some swingers?

Should we "market" ourselves differently in adds?

Will we be considered "weird"?

Nope, not weird at all. A lot of couples like to have sex with in the couple but in the same room as others. The first time we swung with another couple that is what we did. We had 4 play with the other couple but when it came time for intercourse we switched back to our own.

And yes you should make that known in any profiles you may have. Most consider that "soft swap". meaning 4 play with others but no intercourse. Then as you get more comfortable you can take another step.

You will find MOST swingers wont push.
But one thing to consider is if you market your self as a full swap couple then that is what the other couple is going to expect. Do not market your selves that way until you are ready for it.

[stoutgatte]

Dito

I agree fully with the Naughties... Don't market yourself as a full swap couple before you're ready. And of course, if u find the experience good and want to take it to the next level, ie intercourse, u simply need to work out beforehand which method u will use to communicate the question of: "Do u want to?", to your partner, and his/her positive or negative reply...

Is easier taking it to the next level (the other couple must be willing of course) than telling ppl u're not ready. The latter will typically stop the fun, while the first option allows u to increase it...

C

[HotCoupleGnS]

I think it is real common for couples to have sex with each other in full swap situations. Hubby & I have found that we are both sometimes uncomfortable making sexual advances on some people. So, when this happens we think that it would be easier if we start on each other. We don't just like start fucking each other, but he will start like going up my shirt or something.

[Vespertine]

We expect to do a full swap.

What we were wondering was can we initiate an "orgy" (for the lack of a better word) between the four of us.
--A Free-For-All between two couples.
Is this a common occurrence?
That is more along the line of what we fantasize about.

No male/male contact, but I (Mrs. V) like being with women too, provided they are into that as well.


Does this make sense?

Thanks so much for all of your replies.
Every little bit of info helps!

What we were wondering was can we initiate an "orgy" (for the lack of a better word) between the four of us.
--A Free-For-All between two couples.
Is this a common occurrence?

You sure can!! nothing wrong with that at all!!

When the subject comes up just tell them that is what you are interested in. Or put exactly what you told us in your profile.

I dont know of many couples who would turn down a free for all between two couples (straight between the males of course). I know we wouldnt!!

Sounds like swingers to me!!

Does this make sense?

Perfect sense!!
Nothing you are asking or fantasising(SP?) about is out of the norm or weird. Actualy it is right down the middle of what swinging is all about for most people. Sex with others and sex with each other. And there is nothing at all wrong with doing both at the same time. facelick

[De and Ci]

Based on our experiences. We've never had another couple wanting to play in separate rooms. But a couple we're friends with-had a couple who insisted on that. Also if you meet a couple and they invite you to "party" at hotel or someone's place, that means they want to swap. If its several couples going to a hotel to "party" you can pretty much bet that it's going to be group sex/orgy. Soft/hard swap issue never brought up. It seemed to be assumed it would be full swap. I suppose if a couple only wants to soft swap, they will let you know beforehand-At least I hope so.

[ALilOEverything]

Now I have limited experience but I have to say the first experience we had was as perfect as they could be for us.

It started by the woman on the other half making the first move on my husband and I joined right in and so did her partner (soon to be married). When we were making out is was all four of us together taking turns kissing. I would kiss my husband and then her and then her partner and we were more or less one big glob When it came to the swap we didn't even go to a different area in the room...at first she was over me where my husband entered her from behind and I was sucking on her parter and then after awhile we changed positions where he entered me and who knows what they were doing but we were all still connected in some way. We changed positions several times and eventually ended up with our own partner.

It was perpetual motion with positions and actions constantly changing. While one was getting fucked from one person they were getting foreplay from someone else and no one was ever left out (nothing between the guys). This was so erotic to me having us all together at once, I can't imagine seperating into different sides of the room being nearly as fun... but I wouldn't mind doing that too since I can imagine being able to focus your attention on solely one person can have it's advantages

So my thoughts to your question is that it can go either way, you can pair up or you can all play together...I would figure out what you really want out of it. We didn't talk to the couple how it was going to play out before hand because we were comfortable with either. But if you think you have a preference be sure to include that when looking for couples. As for us we figure out a basic set of boundaries and just go with the flow for the rest.

[frenzb4sex]

Vespertine...You guys sound like you are really thinking and ahead of the game than most who are about to dive in the deep end, so to speak. The only other thing that I can add to what other great advice has been given is to communicate the questions or desires you have with the potential couple you are with. That way, there's no signals crossed or miscommunication, which can lead to awkwardness. Discuss the preferences that each of you have in regard to bi play, same/separate room, etc., etc.,

It may sound like it's scripted, and you may think that you will be taking out some of the spontaneous nature, but the fact of the matter is in situations like this in swinging, it is so much better to be safe than sorry. Be very clear as to what you guys want and understand what they want and everything will play itself out nicely.

Tim

[BodyScape02]

Originally Posted by Vespertine

We expect to do a full swap.

What we were wondering was can we initiate an "orgy" (for the lack of a better word) between the four of us.
--A Free-For-All between two couples.
Is this a common occurrence?
That is more along the line of what we fantasize about.

No male/male contact, but I (Mrs. V) like being with women too, provided they are into that as well.


Does this make sense?

Thanks so much for all of your replies.
Every little bit of info helps!

Hi ,

It sounds like a foursome is what you are really looking for.

This is what we like too and what happens most often with us. The only difficulty can be if once you all get going someone gets jealous of the extra attention or like in our first case the woman wouldn't quit fucking D2. Her man was dead in the water early on. I finally pulled her off and said “I would like some of that now please."

Henceforth, our rule about no one taking one for the team.

If everyone in the 4-some if happy and concerned with everyone having fun instead of being a pillow queen or king ( ie: its all about us pleasuring them) then you should have a wonderful time.




~cat

[Vespertine]

Thanks for sharing everyone!

Does anyone have any suggestions on how we should phrase this desire in our add?


*Takes notes*

[Randalls_angel]

One of our limits is that we always play in the same room. Granted, I'm not ready for full swap yet, and we're still pretty new to the swinging scene, too, but we are up-front about our limits when we talk with new people. We tell them that we are only into playing together. You might want to say something like that in your profile or personal ad....for example, "We are looking for (interested in, etc) full swap play/same room play with another couple." That should take away any questions someone else might have.

For me, most of the time, I have to be within touching distance of Mr. He's my anchor...so I have to be connected!

~angel~