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Just finished watching a YouTube video about the O and P shot, I had never heard of this. This is for middle aged men and women where a doctor uses a vial of your own blood,spins it and takes the platelets to inject back into the clitoris or the penis to improve blood flow. The doctor who did the video said she gets this treatment about every 9 months. She recommends this for people having problems with ED problems or orgasm difficulties. So, have you heard of this or have you had this treatment?

I hope to find suggestions and maybe own experiences here, because I'm getting very frustrated. My husband and I are married for 8 years and just opened up 4 months ago, although we were talking for a while. I was the one who wanted to take things slow to see how I will get along with jealousy etc. With jealousy was everything ok and we had 2x MMF, 1xFFM and wanted to try a MMFF yesterday. My husband never ha issues with getting hard and has no problems usually to keep it hard. But in all situations we had so far, he has problems to get hard. First time MMF - nothing. 2nd time worked for a bit, the same with FFM and yesterday, it didn't work at all. We tried yesterady and MMFF with a friend of ours we had the FFM with and another guy my friend and I had met on Sunday. We started with dinner and everything went well. My hubby and this guy were good buddies after a while I asked him how he feels and he said ok and gave his go to start. Everything was fine then, but he just couldn't get hard. He went down on me etc., I tried - nothing. Then with each minute he got more and more frustrated because we all were ready and wanted to fuck, but he couldn't. He said I could go and enjoy myself but I saw that he would be hurt and that he didn't really want it. So I didn't play with my friends, although I was super horny. He said he would feel like a looser when he would see how I play but he couldn't get it up. He rationally understands it and has not a problem to watch me with another man, but in this situ he would. The problem was it was at our place, so we couldn't just walk away. He got just very passive and didn't really wanted to continue at least to kiss or stroking etc. I already suggested to play seperately although I could have never imagine it so far, but he doesn't want to. I think its an confidence issue because he thinks he has an average penis which is not good enough compared to the guys we played with. Also he didn't had that many experiences with other woman before he met me to collect the experience that his cock is enough and pleasure bringing... And of course with every fail, he gets more and more frustrated so when we try next time he'll have even more pressure and probably won't get it up too. I feel so bad for him. We tried also the blue pill already, but it didn't work, cause you need to start to get hard and then the erection stays. No I don't know what to do and what else to try. I'm so afraid of the next situation when its like this. It just feels very uncomfortable for each of us. We could try more FFM, but I'm afraid he'll have the same problem, and it would make it harder for my comfort, not engange with another man while he is engaging with the other female. An FFM is not the same for me cause I don't think I'm bi. I'm still exploring and its fun, but not the same as playing with men. Does anyone has suggestions, recommendations and whatever?

Ok, I just read the above in another thread and it got me thinking, so I'll ask you guys. Looking back do you see this trend? As a woman, I have seen this trend. Pet and I were originally together when we were 19/20 and back then I could litterally walk in the room and he'd get hard. It doesn't happen anymore... ok well not very often. Do guys as they get older become more like us women and actually require a little more effort? Why do we as women look at men and expect that they should just get hard at the sight of us? I've seen this attitude of women mentioned many times in other threads - the women who think that the guy should be hard just because she's there. Why do we expect more effort out of them than we are willing to give ?

One of the things that worries most men is premature ejaculation and disappointing the lady or gentleman if in a bi situation. I worry, as do most men, that when the time is at hand that we will preform to a standard that does not disappoint our partners. One of the things that helps at any age is the use of male enhancers such as Cialis or Viagra. I find that taking a Cialis (my personal choice) allows me to from the get go, get harder, gain some size, remain harder longer, and after ejaculating I can recover quicker and get hard again and be ready for round two. Does anyone else have any observations on this issue?

I've run into a few situations where I couldn't keep it up. I have had no idea if it was mental, physical, or some combination of factors. It seems there is no consistency to when and where it happens. Some times I can go and go and go with no problems at all. Other times I hit a flat tire within 10 minutes. The worst time was when I was with a super hot awesome girl and I couldn't keep it up. What's worse, it's happened TWICE with the same girl. I'm about 99% sure it's mental... like I'm actually intimidated by how hot she is and it's messing with my brain which kills the erection. I've thought about popping some pills the next time I'm with her to make sure I don't swing out on the 3rd attempt, but this has got me wondering: Does Viagra / Cialis only deal with plumbing issues or does it also help if someone is having mental issues? For example: Say I can get an erection 100% of the time with my wive, watching videos, etc., but occasionally while swinging I sometimes stumble. It's pretty obvious to me that all the plumbing works, but there's sometimes a problem in the control room. Do these pills help with the control room problem, or are they just tiny little plumbers that keep the system operating, but the control room is still required to start things moving? I guess the bottom line: If I'm the type to overthink things and this causes me to loose an erection, will these pills keep the erection regardless of what I'm thinking about or what's going on in my head?

The situation: We've been in the lifestyle for about 4 years now and I've never had a problem with erection (knock on wood). My problem (if you can call it that) is that lately I have not been able to get it up a second time! I, know, many of you are playing the world's smallest as I write this. All kidding aside, something has to be done...no? My background: Turning 40 with the libra sun, lost 40 some pounds this last year, don't drink alcohol, don't smoke but enjoying having sex with other men's wives . The wishlist: The love of my life (ball and chain) is taking me to Vegas next week to celebrate my 40th and it's also our first time in Sin City. I have an appointment with the doc before I leave and wanted to ask for some 'recreational sex drugs' to help with lasting longer amongst other things. However, like the post title says, it's mostly about getting a second if not a third 'woody' so that I am able to "party in your bedroom, all night long" to quote a Top40 song playing at the moment. The Drugs: Levitra and Viagra are the Pepsi and Coke of the recreational sex drug world with not many differences between the two, while Cialis seems to be of the energy drink flavour such as Red Bull. Like with all things in the world, some claim that Viagra is best and others swear by Levitra and Cialis. I, know it's a matter of personal choice and what works for you but I would like to hear from other guys in a similar siuation. The Bottom Line: I might drink on a night or two, eat at buffets and have sex with someone's wife...I'd like to be able to have sex with her twice if possible...even with a few drinks in me and too much buffet food!?! Which recreational sex drug would you recommend to your buddy?

So I guess I'll start this off with a little background information: I go by the name Ave Satanas, and I've been a semi-active member of the swingers board since April of last year. At the time that I joined, I was only curious about the lifestyle, but I soon realized that it was perfect for my SO and me. Things were tricky for us, since both of us are under 21, which meant no clubbing, and we were reluctant to engage in any activity with anyone we didn't know. More problems plagued us, but we made the effort and think we've done pretty well considering we both live with our parents and it's still under wraps (hey man, it's tough being a college student!). Now if you haven't read any of the threads I posted, let me give a quick update: we had engaged in our first group sex activity, a MMF threesome, with a friend of ours. It went fairly well, but since then we have come to the conclusion that the particular friend involved, while a great guy, isn't particularly well suited to swinging. We went on the hunt for a female, since that's what my lady was interested in. In my last post, which was quite a while ago, we were preparing for a threesome with her. Long story short: the whole event crashed and burned. Drama ensued. Thankfully it's over, and I've learned a lot. So now we get to the meat of this blog... A coworker of my girlfriend had piqued our curiosity, and we were considering throwing out the idea of playing with her. Not a minute after we resolved to, the girl's previously unknown boyfriend comes into town for winter break from his school in Alaska. We were pretty disappointed, but my girlfriend met him and said that I would like the guy anyway. She said she had even made a joke about the four of us having an orgy, which he half-jokingly agreed to. So I sent the guy a text message, and we agreed to meet up. (I should probably mention that my girlfriend works at an arena for our cities hockey team with this girl, and since I'm a rabid hockey fan, I attend every game). After the game was over, we met them outside. Sure enough, me and this guy hit it off. Really, REALLY well. It was like he was me in a different skin. Being so immediately comfortable, I figured 'what the hell' and said "So, foursome?". To which he responded, deadly serious "Well, what are you two doing tomorrow?" So we agreed to hang out the next night. We were unsure if the two were serious or not, but we prepared for a good time regardless. The next day, we met them and we all enjoyed a nice dinner. We went back to the guy's house and proceeded to go out to the hot tub. Well, it wasn't long before the two of us guys were able to convince the ladies to undress and get some kissing action going. And right then, we hear his family pull into the driveway. We were all pretty disappointed, and exited the spa. We decided to go grab a coffee, and near the coffee place, we see a cheap hotel. He jokingly says that we could get a hotel room, and so my lady and I take a gamble and say "well, we'll pay if you're interested". Next thing you know, we're in a hotel room, calling our parents to say we're staying with friends. We push the two beds together, and start having fun. First predicament: in all my plans, I had never thought that I would be NERVOUS. Thankfully, he was two, and it became the running gag of the night between the two of us. Eventually he's having sex with his girl and we're doing the same. However, we had yet to swap, and my girlfriend and I were pretty anxious too. So to give the whole situation a kick-start, i suggested that she go over and try getting a little intimate with the guy while he was giving his girlfriend some oral action. Things were looking good, and at some point or another his girl ended up over with me. We got pretty occupied, and soon enough she's on top and we're having fun. That is, until we look over and notice that his nervous problem has come back. Now, I don't have to recount the ENTIRE story, but in the end, my lady never actually had sex with him. Not that he didn't give her any attention, and there were no hard feelings in the end. So the next weekend, I ended up house-sitting for some people I know and ask this guy if he and his girl want to hang out. We don't mention a foursome specifically because we didn't want to make him feel as though that's all we want. But thankfully, he and his girl suggest it again and we end up at this house. Now, a little more background: This is basically the last night we have a shot with the two of them for a while because the next day he's due to go back to Alaska for school. So we've got big plans for the night. Things start off similar to the last time, and we all end up in the same bed (we started out in separate rooms to quell the usual nerves). However, he and his lady seem pretty busy and we're reluctant to ask him. However, we're not really having too much fun because we're growing more and more disappointed by the second. His girlfriend seems to get the idea, but him... not so much. So his girlfriend decides that she needs to leave the room for a little while and heads out, and I suggest to my girlfriend that she attempt to get some action going while I leave the room. Now, before I continue, some more background: his girlfriend is incredibly sexy. Gorgeous. Now obviously I don't think she holds a candle to my girlfriend, but my lady doesn't share my opinion. So me and his girl start getting something going, and we decide to go to a different room while my lady seduces the other guy. We sneak a peek in their room before we go into ours however, and are greeted with a disappointing site: he's laying there, facing away from my dejected looking girlfriend. His girl goes to talk to him, while my girlfriend comes with me to another room. In the other room, she informs me that when she attempted to try getting him to do anything with her, he casually mentioned that he was just waiting for his girlfriend to come back so that the two of them could cuddle. Basically, he very politely told my girlfriend that he didn't want to do anything with her. Now, cuddling wouldn't be such a problem, except that a moment later, we hear the sound of the other two going at it again. Right around then, my girl starts to tear up. She doesn't take any sort of rejection well, and I don't take to seeing her cry well. I hold her for a minute, my blood boiling. In retrospect, it WAS his last night with his girlfriend. But he HAD been the one to suggest a foursome, and it seemed like that plan was out completely. I was starting to feel like I was just there to give them a place to fuck, and on top of that my girlfriend had tears streaming down her face. So I did what I figured any good boyfriend would do in my situation, regardless of how much they liked the other dude. I pulled on my jeans, left the room ("oh, I've just gotta pee, babe. I'll be right back."), marched into the other room, step right up onto the bed, pull the blanket back, and punched him in the head. Hard. Full-on. In the face. He gave the expected "what the fuck", to which I responded "that's for making my girlfriend cry, you fucking dick." I pulled back for another blow and he says "wait, she's crying?" "well of course she's crying, you stupid idiot, she feels like you rejected her. You just shot her down" Now, I know i had just punched this guy, and I know that it wasn't as honorable as I would have liked it, but if you ask either one of us now, we'd tell you that even at that moment, even RIGHT AFTER I hit him, we were still friends, and good friends at that. So, in lieu of hitting him again, I let him and his lady rush into the other room to console my girlfriend. He apologized profusely, saying that he didn't mean to hurt my girl's feelings, he just was caught up in the moment with his girl. I thought things were getting better, but as we all lay in that bed, he starts talking. Normally not a problem, except basically everything coming out of his mouth was "isn't my girlfriend so pretty, I love her more than anything, she's everything to me", etc. My thoughts: 'hey, if I wanted to hear this, I'd have rented a Hugh Grant movie. I signed up for a foursome, goddammit' But, against my better judgment, I put up with it. For a good hour and a half. To that point that when he left the room for a minute, even his girlfriend remarked at how sickeningly sweet. Now, and I'm quoting this from a friend, I'm cool with love. But not this chick-flick-gay-love. In the end, my lady and I went to our room while they went to theirs. So far, still no foursome. We're kind of pissed still, and my girlfriend says "well, he said he didn't mean for me to feel rejected... but I mean, nonetheless, I was". And we just start complaining to one another about how disappointing our night has become. So she goes into the other room, where they've started back up again. And she asks flat out if the foursome is going to happen or not. They dance around the question for a good five minutes, going on tangents and talking about just being 'so caught up in the moment' etc. My girlfriend tells them after all this that they've yet to answer, and he finally says "so you're asking if we're going to swap partners tonight?" I'll give you a moment to let it sink in. We nod, and he answers "tonight, honestly, probably not" So we go to bed, fuming angry. A few minutes later, they come in, and proceed with basically the same thing they did with my SO the first time. Sure, the apologies are nice, but in the end, things are the same: nothing has happened and he's still in gay-love. After they leave, my girl and I at least had a little fun with each other before going to sleep. The next morning the other two come wake us up super early, because I've got to take him to the airport. No problem, I had agreed to that. I even sat through the half-hour long, chick-flick-style goodbye between he and his girl. Mind you, I'm feeling a little better now that I've had some sleep. I'm less angry at him, and having talked to him a little, I'm convinced that a foursome is still possible the next time he's in town. So he leaves, and there are absolutely no hard feelings. His girl, my girl, and I head back to the house. We grab some breakfast, and all decide to lay down for a nap. Yes, all of us in the same bed. Hey now, we're all fully-clothed the entire time. Don't give me that look. In conclusion, here's what I'm thinking: 1) A foursome isn't out. The two of them were just really trying to enjoy their last night together for a while. 2) He's a good guy, it's just situations like this made me dislike him some. But in the end, he's still a great friend of mine. 3) His girlfriend, having been much more open to swapping that night than he was, is still awesome. In all honestly, my lady and I both harbor the fantasy that one day she'll leave him and come be our live-in girlfriend. She's a great girl, and we'd do a lot for her. Of course, we've known her longer, so... We have cut them out, but we're keeping an eye out for new playmates. I've written this whole lengthy, terribly unstructured blog to basically see what my friends here on swingers board think of the situation. So: comments, advice, feedback, flames, anything? Thanks for reading this far, if you have. I appreciate any feedback. -Ave Satanas P.S. This started out as a blog but became too long, so I apologize if it reads weirdly due to that.

Ok, here's what's going on..... My husband and I recently got into the lifestlye. We have talked about swinging for several years and we came up with a few rules before we got started. Our relationship was wonderful and our communication was excellent as well. We have been told by several couples in the last few weeks that they are very impressed with our level of security at our ages. He is 27 and I am 26. We have been together for 7 years. Our relationship is not in jeopardy due to these bad experiences but my self confidence is pretty much shot right now. I hope you guys can help me out. We first met a couple online who lives in our area. We talked quite a bit on the computer and on the phone. We got the chance to meet at a party about a month ago. It was our first time going to a party and we had a blast on the dance floor. We had no problems with jealousy or insecurity within ourselves or our relationship. While at the party we met another couple whom we eventually went up to the hotel room and swapped with. This first experience was ok, however we ended up switching back to our partners due to the fact that the male was pretty small and was having a hard time keeping it up. My husband was having a great time with this other female and I felt bad breaking that up, however I was just too uncomfortable. Our second experience happened that same night with the couple we met online. My husband was slightly attracted to the female and I was very attracted to the male. We attempted a full swap, but, of course, he had had too much to drink and couldn't keep it up either. Once again, I had to break my husband and this other female. He was having a great time, but I just had to give up on the male who couldn't get it up. Our third experience happened last night. We met a couple for drinks and some great conversation. We left the restaurant and went to a more private place for some fun. My husband was super attracted to the female while I was somewhat attracted to the male. My husband slightly hurt my feelings bc he didn't talk to me to see if I really wanted to swap with them. I gave him signals but he didn't pay attention. He says he wasn't able to follow my signals. Anyway, we attempted a full swap, however, once again he couldn't get it up. He said that he had too much to drink. I was very uncomfortable by this point however my husband couldn't seem to take his tounge away from this chic's pussy to make sure I was ok. I had to put a stop to the whole thing, again. I guess you can tell that I am feeling pretty bad right now. All three of the men have said that it was totally their fault. They have all called or spoken to me the next day and have said that I am a very sexy female and they are all hoping to get a second chance. I know that I am by far not any ugly person. I am not barbie but I am very attractive for having three kids. In all the experiences I have attempted to use oral and manual stimulation in trying to get them up. They all have told me that I give an awesome BJ, they just have had too much to drink. I just don't know what to do now. My husband cant understand why I am so upset. He says that it is them and not me. I have tried to explain to him that this is supposed to be for our fun, yet he is the one having all the fun and I am not. I guess I am jealous that he is having fun with sexy partners and haveing great experiences, while I have yet to even have one fun time. I am not sure now if I want to even try again. My first three experiences have been horrible and I don't know if I can stand the blow from a fourth being bad as well. Sorry for writing a book, but what do I do now? I am just wondering what I should do to feel better? Has anybody else had similar experiences? Please help me!

So I met this guy at work, and although I was already married, I knew he wanted me and I kinda wanted him. After talking to him about several different topics and even talking with him and Mr. Bangs, we realized we would end up as great friends, no matter that he wanted me... he knew his limitations. He found a girlfriend, and I guess they had conversations about trying to be in the lifestyle and called us. We decided to go to their house, since that would make them more comfortable. He started playing around with his girl until eventually he was banging her on the couch across from us. So, Mr. Bangs decided to do the same to me. The guy escorted his girl to us, and she started going down on me. I was sitting on the couch, Mr. Bangs got behind her, and the guy got in front of me for me to --- well, "sing into his mic". This is when everything went downhill. The two guys are very disproportionate in "size". When Mr. Bangs entered the other girl, she let out a huge moan. As soon as she did, the guy got softer than overcooked pasta. He was mush. Everything came to a halt. He then decided to try to get Mr. Bangs out of the picture and still keep the action going with just me and them two. He tried to coach us into several scenarios that no one but him was happy with. They went back to the couch they started on, and all we kept hearing from her was "yes, you please me, too", "there's nothing wrong with your size", "I make the same noises when I have sex with you". We decided it wasn't worth it and left. After that experience, we decided to tell other men BEFORE we start that there may be a size difference, and hope they're comfortable with it. Haven't had a problem with that since.

So, me and the wife are new to swinging. We have soft swapped several times and full swapped (or at least tried to full swap) 4 times. The problem is, I was only able to get hard enough for penetration one of those times, and that was only for a few minutes. Last night was another failure. I just need help finding out what the issue is. I mean, I am completely comfortable with this couple, I am very attracted to her, and I'm totally turned on by watching my wife with them, so it just doesn't make sense to me. I even took cialis last night to make sure everything went smoothly. Not even that could do the trick. Im to the point where I'm embarrassed and wondering if I should even try again. Advice?

I was attempting to search online to find a reputable seller but with so many out there it is hard to find a safe one. Has anyone order V online recently and is what you received the real deal or did you get scammed. I know that going through a doctor would be the safest route, but due to my current situation I cannot do that. I tried search threads, but was unable to find anything to point me in the right direction.

I'm pretty convinced that a lot of people in the lifestyle use viagra, cialis, etc. to remain hard for hours of play with multiple people. I've definitely seen the use first hand by guys that are young, in-shape, and use it for this kind of "extra boost" help. I know some people will get an Rx / buy the higher dosage pills and then cut them into smaller pieces since it's cheaper. Example: a guy only needs 25 mg. of Viagra, so he'll buy the 100mg tablets and cut them into quarters. It looks like Viagra comes in 20mg - 100mg. My doctor said he'd give me 20mg pills and I could start with one and see if that works and go up from there. Another example, Cialis looks like it comes in pills from 5mg - 40mg. So, my question are: 1) How many mg do you (or people you know) take of this stuff? 2) If I start with a low dose will it be VERY obvious it is or isn't working? Regarding the latter question: I've NEVER had a single problem getting / staying hard with my wife, but have had a handful of times getting soft 1/2 way through with other girls. There hasn't been any rhyme or reason to why I sometimes have problems and sometimes don't. What this means is I don't really have a controlled experimental way to figure out if the smallest dose of this stuff will work or if I need a huge hit. How do I figure out how much I need and if it's really working or not, especially when there are times I have zero problems anyway?

We have been with 10-12 couples and more times than not the male half can't get hard. My wife is getting discouraged and has made comments like she is the problem. I've told her that she is not, she is 5'8", 145 lbs., 36DD, very pretty. Just wondering if anybody else seems to run into this? It really puts a damper on things.

I'm 35 and appear relatively healthy (minus belly weight), but I am a recently diagnosed diabetic and have difficulty getting and maintaining an erection. This issue is compounded by the fact that while my penis is about 5.5" fully erect it is just 1.5-2" flaccid, leaving not much to work with to start in the first place. I've come to terms with my size and my thoroughly average body shape (not being self-critical, just honest), but I don't know how I can have confidence - let alone actually participate - when my penis is so fickle. Even during sex with my wife, I often have to masturbate myself to get hard, and I have to "use it or lose it" so to speak. And even that doesn't work sometimes. How can I expect to perform with a new partner when nerves and condoms are on top of these other issues? (Viagra, etc, aren't options due to diabetic heart issues.) I am otherwise very interested in the lifestyle, but where does someone like me fit in? I am not into cuckolding or humiliation. People see me and think because I'm a young guy I'll be virile, and instead I'm anything but. I tried a threesome with another couple for the first time last night and it was a total failure. Nerves were certainly a factor as well - I had literally met the couple just 10 minutes beforehand - but I know that nerves aren't the only issue. How does someone like me get pleasure out of the lifestyle without disappointing people constantly or having to explain my penis doesn't work well and asking for patience over, and over, and over again? Honestly, it just makes me sad because I am otherwise eager to get into swinging, if only my penis would cooperate. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Our former health insurer paid for Cialis. Our new insurer has declined to pay for it. My urologist tried to get it pre-authorized, but it was declined. Does anyone use a Canadian pharmacy for less expensive pills? They want $400/month for 2.5mg tablets in the USA. PS, I take no other medication and I’ve been blessed with good health. These bums can’t pay for one thing. I can accept a private message if you do not want to broadcast ED med use. Thanks.

Hi there, my hubby and I are quite new to the swinging scene, been doing it for about a month now, have had a few soft swaps and 2 full swaps. At first we thought the problem was to do with condoms, we never use them at home but it is a big must for us while playing with others, so we have been practicing at home with them and now we have kind of mastered them, however when swapping hubby struggles to keep his erection after putting one on. He has tried Viagra...didn't work. We have tried drinking, not drinking, but it always ends the same way, he can just about keep it up to penetrate the woman for a brief time but then loses it, as of yet no other woman has managed to make him cum. I always try to be reassuring for him but I am struggling now to come up with things to try or things to suggest for him to try. I feel like when he has managed to cum with another woman thing will be easier (I could be wrong) but I don't know how he can keep himself hard enough to get that far. He knows I can get him hard again quite easily and quickly so when he know he is going soft on him he comes straight to me to get him going again. Does anyone else have this problem or does anyone have any suggestions to help us get past this? We would hate for our swinging lifestyle to be cut short as other than this problem we really are enjoying it. Thanks for reading.

:HELP: From all the things I have read about swinging, it seems as though it is always the husband who wants to swing and is trying to persuade his wife to join him. In my case it has turned out just the opposite. As I may have posted before, my DH suffers from complete erectile dysfunction as a result of medical conditions and required medications. For the past few years our sex life has consisted mostly of him performing oral sex on me which is good but not completely satisfying. DH knows I was very promiscuous when I was single, and I suspect that was something he once found very intriguing about me. Around a year ago we were confessing our fantasies and I admitted one of mine was to have vigorous interracial sex with a good-looking, muscled and virile black man like some of the XXX videos I have seen. He said he realized how much I must miss PIV sex and that his pet fantasy was always to watch me having sex with another man, preferably one that did not pose a love-interest threat. Assuming I would not be highly likely to become possessively and romantically attached to an African-American man, especially if I were to experience swinging in an interracial threesome, the idea seemed so exciting and non-threatening he joined a kinky interracial sex group that facilitates, among other things, interracial cuckolding, which is what he seemed to want at the time. As an uninhibited exhibitionist (who often thought I would have made a good porn actress) I became very excited about trying this. We have had some delays in carrying this out because of his medical issues, but it is still something I want very badly to get into and now, without any definite explanation, he seems to be dragging his feet. I would really appreciate any helpful comments or suggestions from anyone about persuading a reluctant husband.

I have an enlarged prostate BPH and I'm on medication for this condition - taking Avodart and Flomax. I've been on these meds for the last three years. Although my libido remains as high as ever, I have a very difficult time maintaining an erection. At night, I can't get erect at all. In the morning, I can, but it won't last. My urologist does not want me on viagra, cialis etc. given the BPH meds and a strong family history of heart problems. While I can pleasure my wife orally, and she enjoys it, she misses intercourse, as do I. About a year and a half ago my wife raised the idea of a trial separation. I asked why - why would we split up? She replied just so we could date other people. My response was why do we need to split up? I suggested that maybe what we needed was an open marriage. She changed the subject. In January of this year, my wife brought the idea up. She had talked to some friends of hers and they thought there was some merit in the idea of open marriage. We read up on the subject, and I agreed as a trial I would give her a free pass for the month of March - a month that she was scheduled to be out of Province a lot for her work. Long story short, she packed some rather sexy clothes and ended up making full use of her free pass. In April, we agreed to a one year trial open marriage. So far, I am enjoying it. There is no pressure on me to satisfy my wife. She is being satisfied, and I find the idea of her with other men erotic. She has two men, one in Halifax, the other in Ottawa. This works well as she often travels to these cities as a result of her work. Both are married, in open marriages, and I have talked to them and their wives to verify this. The funny thing is, with the pressure to perform lifted off my shoulders, I actually kind of enjoy my impotence. I can still orgasm and give and receive pleasure. This past weekend, my wife and I were talking and my wife was wondering if we could move things along so she could have a 'local' FWB. I said, why not, along as we follow the rules - married, open marriage, his wife is OK with it. She had already lined up such a guy! However, his wife and I met for coffee on Monday and she has taken a real shine to me and I to her. I explained to her that I have ED, but she says we could have lots of fun anyway. So, it looks like I may be having a date too!

A man that has E.D. has a problem, and he has only one (1) thing he can do about it and that is to get a Penial implant....Would the women accept having a cock hard anytime they asked for it ??

So today was the second meeting for my wife and I with Kevin. The first was in a hotel and was pretty good but Kevin had a tough time staying hard. Today, we really didnt have playing on the agenda, just chatting and getting to know one another. But after 3 rounds of my wife's Margaritas, plans change. We had also been smoking weed and were pretty messed up. The clothes came off and we started off ok but then the softness would not go away. We assumed too much booze and smoke but what a disappointment. I know how much she loves 2 HARD dicks in her, but not today.

So I've been lurking on this board for about a week. My girlfriend and I had been talking about a MFF threesome and we put a post online searching for an interested participant. Two weeks, no emails at all. Then, the only email we receive, a couple contact us that is similar age (twenties) and lets us know they are looking for a couple. We think they are both attractive and decide to meet them just for a drink. See how the vibe is. We meet them and they are both very nice and the same as their pictures so we agree to meet again in a week at one of their places'. Fast forward to the meeting. We get there at 8 and my SO has to leave at 10:30. All of us are new to this and we are a bit nervous... end up talking till about 8:45... not sure how to transition into it best. Actually, I had thought of a few ideas but was just too afraid to go out and say it. Eventually both (who had just got off of work previously and not had time to clean up) decide to take a shower. At around 9 we finally get "started", we swap and go to different rooms to get to know each other... kissing, undressing and oral start. It's all exciting and everyone is having a great time. Not too long after my SO and the other M come to join us (I'm in the bedroom with his SO) and we let the girls play on the bed while we watch and fondle here and there. I think we are both excited about what we're witnessing. Up to this point I was quite hard (not 100% but I think close). After this girls have been at it a little while we suggest trying a few of the things we had wanted to do/see... both girls on each of us as well as both of us on each girl. However, I think this is about the time the problem starts. We are both having a little trouble getting and staying hard. We try a few combinations in the bedroom and eventually the other M and his SO go into the living room (to be more comfortable I assume, which was perfectly fine and understandable) and I think he finishes off there. My SO and I continue to fool around in the bedroom but my inability to stay stiff are causing a bit of a problem. We call it quits (my SO and I) not too long after and its already coming up on 10:30 so we sit down and chat a bit before having to jet. So... this reminds me a little of the first time I had "sex". I wasn't able to get it up at all even though I was excited mentally and more than willing. The second time was up just fine but it took me about 2 hours to cum (seriously... not an exaggeration). Since then I've had many partners and never encountered similar problems before. I'm just wondering now if it was the same issue... nervousness... that was the culprit. We were both totally into it and wanted to do more... but physically unable. I'm hoping we will meet up again in the future, and everyone will have a great time and no issues but we'll just have to see. Regardless, had an amazing time I don't think I'll ever forget. Still floating in the clouds.

JoAnn has a question that she wants me to pose to the Swingersboard membership. Should a man who has difficulty gaining or maintaining an erection say so before getting into a partner exchange and, if yes, at what stage of a developing acquaintanceship should it be declared? Should it be stated plainly in the the on-line profile? During initial phone conversations? During an initial meeting? At a follow-up meeting? Before making the swap? It is supreme disappointment for her to hear, "Oh, sorry about that. I have diabetes and can't get it up. But don't worry, I'm really good at oral sex." She really does understand that some men cannot or occasional have a problem. But really, it's now three in a row who have announced themselves only after a half-hour of oral sex in a vain attempt to "get it going". She is beginning to think it's her. Help!

My girlfriend and I have been swinging for about a year, have met / had dinner with about a dozen couples, been to the clubs and even had a few play dates. Our problem is that while we seem to click and have a great time with a few couples in a vanilla setting the play time has been less than fulfilling usually because the other guy has issues. So far we have dealt with the "jealous guy issue" who just could not handle seeing his wife enjoy herself even though they were supposedly far more experienced than us. The "quick cummer" who came about 2 minutes after my girl went down on him then felt like play time was over and it was time for them to go home. The "can't get it up with a condom on" of course my girlfriend would not fuck him without a condom which ended that evening fairly quickly. And of course the disappearing couples who after a nice evening, etc etc everyone gets along, things are great, lets set up a play date, then wham o you never hear from them again. We did have one nice evening and play date with a very experienced couple they were about 5 years older than us. ( We are mid-forties ). They were great. No jealousy, attentive, and we got to live out one of our fantasies of us both fucking someone else in the same bed, side by side as we touched and watched each other. My girlfriend is frustrated by all the other guy problems. She is patient and understanding but frankly is tiring of watching me have fun fucking and playing with the other women while she deals with the guy issues. She has occasionally given up on them and just joins in with me and the other lady but that usually causes problems with the other guys feeling left out. She then feels bad about leaving them out which usually ends the evening. We have not played in months because of the bad experiences and she now says she just wants us to play with other single women only, ( she is very bi ) which I know is nearly impossible to find. My question after that long dissertation above is this: Is this the norm in the swinging world : 1:5 or One good experience to every 5 attempts ? What has been your success ratio ?

While the topic of viagra has come up many times on here and has been discussed in many ways, I don't believe we've ever attempted to do a poll asking the question of just how many guys actually do use Viagra to assist them in swinging... so here it is guys... have you? do you? would you?

The above quote in the current thread regarding viagra use in swinging made me think about something I've been wondering. Why does ED have to have such a bad stigma attached to it? It happens! I think most of the time it is nerves or distractions more than anything else. Not being able to get it/keep it up only has the power that we give to it. If we treat it like it's no big deal then it's no big deal. If we continually act like it's a big deal then we make it an even bigger deal and thus increase the nervousness the next time around AND create our own distraction (with the worry). Rather than focus on whether or not it's hard or how great the sex turns out to be, why not just focus on the overall fun of the next and exciting experience. Chances are when everyone is laid back and just enjoying the fun without focusing on something so insignificant, the relaxation alone will decrease the chance of the "issue" arising.