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Women, wives, are swinging alone with the husbands permission and blessing

This is a discussion on Women, wives, are swinging alone with the husbands permission and blessing within the Swinging Seperately/ Open Marriage forums, part of the Types of Swinging category; Originally Posted by JnCC When you've got guys like Hugh Grant getting busted with some dog-assed ugly $20 ...

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Old 01-20-2005, 10:47 AM   #16 (permalink)
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When you've got guys like Hugh Grant getting busted with some dog-assed ugly $20 hooker while his girlfriend Elizabeth Hurley is waiting at home, you have to wonder WHY?
You do have to wonder don't you. Then again maybe he had a fantasy about getting blown in his car by a $20 hooker, and if I remember right, he was in LA and Elizabeth was in England, soooooooooo that could have been a catalyst.
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I'm curious, do these husbands not swing at all? Or do they just allow their wives to swing separately/on their own?
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Women, wives, are swinging alone with the husbands permission and blessing. He is staying at home and watching the kids, cleaning the house and cooking dinner. She is out having the the time of her life.
This "cuckolding" phenomenon is becoming increasingly common (the women who practice this lifestyle are known as "hot wives"). We see a lot of websites and Yahoo! groups which are devoted to this activity, but this is something that exists outside the swinging mainstream. Our theory is that a number of baby boomer men are becoming either unwilling or unable to perform sex with their wives on a regular basis as they age, so they adapt by learning to appreciate the extra-curricular activities of their wives.
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This "cuckolding" phenomenon is becoming increasingly common (the women who practice this lifestyle are known as "hot wives"). We see a lot of websites and Yahoo! groups which are devoted to this activity, but this is something that exists outside the swinging mainstream. Our theory is that a number of baby boomer men are becoming either unwilling or unable to perform sex with their wives on a regular basis as they age, so they adapt by learning to appreciate the extra-curricular activities of their wives.

In our case, that theory is total hogwash.
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This "cuckolding" phenomenon is becoming increasingly common (the women who practice this lifestyle are known as "hot wives"). We see a lot of websites and Yahoo! groups which are devoted to this activity, but this is something that exists outside the swinging mainstream.
Many of those websites are "dweebsites"...commercial websites that have nothing whatsoever to do with swinging, other than to satiate some men's fantasy about "doing another guys wife." There are guys who are as turned on by a womans marital status as by any physical characteristic. They'll go after a married woman the same way another guy will be attracted to a blonde or redhead. Swing clubs are full of those kind of guys...which is one reason we wouldn't go there looking for a single male.

The Yahoo Groups are a little different. An ex-girlfriend and I were briefly involved with one in which there were several "hot wives" as you describe them. The only problem is...they weren't exactly "hot" to anybody except maybe a guy who was looking for a no-strings quickie, or to a guy as described above...one who had a fixation on other mens wives. The sense I got from those women was that they were basically insecure and attention starved, and that their status as a "hot wife" who "played alone" granted them that attention...a great DEAL of attention! The husbands attitude about the whole thing reminded me more of a guy who was "letting his dog go outside for a while" than one who cared much about what his wife was doing or with whom. It brought to mind an old line by the comedian Henny Youngman (but often mistakenly credited to Rodney Dangerfield) ...

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That might have been true a few years ago, but the recent developement of dick-altering drugs like Viagra and Cialis have given men of almost any age the ability to have erections. What they won't do is make the guy want to take the pill in the first place.

I once heard a psychologist say that "of all the sexual problems between couples that a therapist might encounter, a lack of desire is the hardest to treat, and has the least chance of success." All of which makes me believe there may be some truth in the "Some guys are just TIRED of fucking them" argument.
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I once heard a psychologist say that "of all the sexual problems between couples that a therapist might encounter, a lack of desire is the hardest to treat, and has the least chance of success." All of which makes me believe there may be some truth in the "Some guys are just TIRED of fucking them" argument.
I think some guys are just tired of fucking.

PERIOD.

I don't find that odd or surprising. I think this can happen with men or women. If the desire isn't there, sex isn't going to happen.


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Women, wives, are swinging alone with the husbands permission and blessing. He is staying at home and watching the kids, cleaning the house and cooking dinner. She is out having the the time of her life...Have you noticed this trend? What do you think about it? Would you swing with a married women with her husbands permission? Would it be odd to go have dinner with the both of them, and then him leave to go take care of the kids while she went off with you to the hotel?
We have not seen this. But then, we aren't club goers.

As far as playing with one spouse alone, that is something Mr LM and I are open to IF we have already played with the couple together in a 4some. We would need to know the couple well and feel there will be continued play with the couple, together, and alone if the situation presented itself and all were in agreement.

We have found, so far, that we don't watch each other much when we play in the same room. We both focus on the person we are with. If we're all tangled together, that's a different story. But when we have paired up, our focus is on the one we are with.

We have discussed going to separate rooms with our playmate and we'll try that one day.

I can say that hearing Mr LM share his past experiences with women--before we met and married--is VERY exciting to me. More so than watching him with his partners. Is this a strange quirk? I only know that because of this, I am very open to playing separately, and then hearing him tell me all about it later. It REALLY turns me on.

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A couple we play with has this kind of situation. She plays with her boy-toys and he stays home. Or she has lunch dates with them. Stuff like that. He likes it. It's the "bad girl" of it all. They have incredible sex afterward. That is their gig and it works for them. BUT, and this is a big but, she won't let him play alone. Go figure.

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This is a weird conversation. Hmmmm.

As far as intercourse goes, my wife has done it at least twice without me. Once was a valentine body message that I prearranged to be beyond the backrub. The other was a pretty recent new years party with a friend that I knew she was fond of (they watched the movie when I left but she rode him by the time I was back).

She has done it twice with me in the same room. But the rest of the events have been "soft" (where did "soft" come from?)

Lately we've had that "how would you feel" conversation. I must admit, I don't have a problem with her getting some "on the side". However, even if we aren't together, I think we do have to agree on the person, or at least the type of person.

For example, she was swayed by this creep recently. I watched him talk to her, call me "sir" (he is older than I), didn't have much of a job, and many other issues, yet somehow she wanted him.

I told her, if you gotta have it, at least make sure he drives a porche....and has a hot tub and a hot wife... :O

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