What is a "Bull"? (was re: Cuckolding)

[SnBinDFWtx]

Originally Posted by hoistsail

As a Bull it is fun to find couple that are into the cuckold style or like S and L which is more like a hot wife. The most important thing is that it is fun for all involved. With some cuckold couples that does change when the wife really gets into a Bull when the husband is not a true submissive and willing to be in the background.

I have seen this 'BULL' term tossed around in a few places. Is this just twist to make some of these couples feel more comfortable when dealing with a Dom, seperation from BDSM?

I've yet to find someone who knows what the slang means.

[strathmore]

Originally Posted by SnBinDFWtx

I have seen this 'BULL' term tossed around in a few places. Is this just twist to make some of these couples feel more comfortable when dealing with a Dom, seperation from BDSM?

I've yet to find someone who knows what the slang means.

Let me give it a try and see where it goes.
Bull is the general term for the lucky man that the hotwife chooses to be unfaithful to her husband with, usually involving humiliation or sissification of her husband. I don’t really like or use the term myself. I usually think of and refer to myself as ‘the other guy’.
There are many variations of bull that a cuckold couple may seek. I believe the classic idea of a Bull might include:
• Some seek a nine inch black cock, known as BBC for big black cock. Interracial and magnificent endowment seeem to be recurring themes in cucoldry.
• Sometimes the hotwife takes a regular boyfriend.
• Some seek the young stud. So you have the 40+ wife hooking up with a 20 something athletic type. Cougaring.
• Some want an alpha male dom who will, along with the hotwife, seriously humiliate or punish the cuckold husband.
• Some seek a bisexual male so the cuckold can be made to perform homosexual acts and cleanup after the bull.
• Some seek the porn star stud to perform various porn acts that the cuckold is not allowed, and that the wife may not do otherwise.

I find the term Bull is also used where the wife engages another guy for other reasons, which are meant to stimulate the couple’s own sex lives without the need to severely humiliate the cuckold.
• Often, the husband is voyeuristic and gets great pleasure and sexual excitement seeing his wife with another man.
• Often the husband is auralistic and gets great pleasure and sexual excitement hearing about his wife with another man.
• Often, the wife wants to act out various fantasies such as; sex with a stranger, role playing, ‘forced’ sex, breaking taboos, sexual experimentation, bondage play, light spanking
• Sometimes, it is to validate the wife’s sexuality and desirability
• Sometimes, there is some mild humiliation of the cuckold (to serve as a stimulus).

I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.

[Additude]

Shouldn't this be a separate thread, a question on it's own? I think that question hijacks this thread.

A Bull is a dominate/alpha male who takes control of the female away from her then current SO. If she stays with her old SO, it's the Bull's decision that she do so.

Think about a farm. Bulls are aggressive and don't tolerate anyone messing with their heifers.

Traditional Cuckolding is driven by the Bull. Hot wife is driven by the female, or male who chooses to share. Big difference, but few care anymore.

This change of meaning gets confusing and leaves us without a word to use when we want the old meaning of "he took her away from her lover".

[it'sso]

It must take a special kind of man to fall in line with being the "cuck" in a relationship.
Any outside activities that my SO and I indulge in would require a "bull" to bring something to the party, other than a big johnson.
For example, he would be required to bring his lady, be it his wife, girlfriend, or, even his mother.
And any and all of them would be required to be able to work their stuff, if the party continued.
My Opinion Only.

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by strathmore

I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.

I don't get it.

I understand the concept, but I don't see how anyone, male or female, would willingly partake in it.

I think just about every married couple entertains in their thoughts the possibility of swinging, even if they reject it. There is SOME appeal there, and I've heard it brought up numerous times in vanilla conversation. The usual response is 'oh I couldn't do that' but then despite the fact that they would NEVER do it, they can't seem to not talk about it.

Cuckolding seems more like psychological issue.

[strathmore]

Originally Posted by Chicup

I don't get it.

I understand the concept, but I don't see how anyone, male or female, would willingly partake in it.

You may not get it, but there are a helluva lot of people who are into it. There are many websites devoted to it. In my experience, most are into softer versions rather than the classic Bull/humiliation scene. Also in my experience, both the hubby and wife are in on it and enjoy their respective roles.

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by strathmore

You may not get it, but there are a helluva lot of people who are into it. There are many websites devoted to it. In my experience, most are into softer versions rather than the classic Bull/humiliation scene. Also in my experience, both the hubby and wife are in on it and enjoy their respective roles.

I'm not denying its existence, but as I said I don't get it.

Most sexual deviations I 'get' even if I don't like them myself. Gay, BDSM, Poly, whatever, I can say 'I see how thats good for them'.

Cuckolding seems to be replacing fear and humiliation with being turned on which I just can't wrap my head around.

I checked out one of those sites as you mentioned and the term used for the husband was 'the sissy', and I can't see how a woman would respect you for being weak.

Its one of those things where I just accept it as an alien point of view.

I suppose thats the dividing line between something as a fetish and something thats under 'normal' sexuality. I don't get foot fetishes either

[SnBinDFWtx]

Thank you strathmore for the breakdown. Doesn't help much regarding some of the requests I've seen posted in various places, because none of them indicated what kind of 'bull' they were seeking. I had responded to one or two, with no replies back. So I just shrugged it off.

I believe we shall just stick with our friendly fun dating concept, enjoying if more happens. I really don't mind doing things for a woman that she might not consider doing with her hubby, however, I'm not really big on putting someone down. It doesn't get me excited doing such.

My intent of the question wasn't to 'highjack' I believe was the word, the thread. I was hoping for a fairly simple, or at least concise, answer.

[Additude]

Wikipedia

Bull - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I've been under the delusion that true cuckolding is when a man (aka Bull) takes a female away from her husband, in such a way that the husband is involved and generally (sexually) humiliated in the process.

Keys include the Bull being much more "alpha" than the husband and the female switching primary allegiance to the Bull. It is not unusual for the Bull to dominate the female in the traditional meaning of D/s, and in turn direct/encourage her to dominate her husband.

For example, she will do things for the Bull which she refuses to do for her husband, and will order her husband to service or submit to the Bull.

The Bull demonstrates his alpha position not just by fucking married/attached females but by taking possession of them. His alpha-ness is so strong that the female can't help but switch to him, which proves his standing.

Some mates put up a fight against the Bull, so when the Bull makes him accept his inferiority (as validated by the female) it's another demonstration that the Bull is alpha. If the husband rebels by divorcing the female, as long as the female stays with the Bull, it's just a victory sign for the Bull.

(Note that the husband doesn't have to voluntarily accept, let alone solicit, the Bull. This is the biggest difference from "hot wife", etc.)

Sometimes there is a long running triad where both female and Bull benefit from having the husband subservient, e.g. he supports them or does the housework. An ultimate coup is for the husband to raise the Bull's child as his own with full acknowledgment he is not the father.

(This is the "cuckolding" -- the Bull's child raised by the couple, with or without acknowledgment by the husband.)

It's not unheard of for the female to eventually abandon (divorce) her husband for the Bull, especially if the Bull is concentrating on her or isn't trying to keep a stable. Marrying the Bull is another demonstration of the Bull's superiority, i.e. the female "traded up" to the better man.

Occasionally she and/or the Bull become tired of having the husband involved, or he becomes so degraded in the female's eye, he is kicked out (divorced). The Bull scores another victory, even when he does not choose to wed the female.

Bulls who choose to live that lifestyle can end up with stables of females, though some Bulls are more "serially monogamous" by continuously trading up and abandoning previous conquests.

In a Bull's stable, females known to each other may fight to be alpha female, and try for full (or primary) possession of the Bull. This is because the Bull is so attractive as the alpha male, and validates him as a Bull.

In summary, the cuckolding is all about the Bull. The female switches loyalty to him, and the husband looses control to them.

[it'sso]

That which is described, above may well provide an explanation for numerous homicides where the motivation isn't always clear, to all.

[MandingoLeo]

Originally Posted by SnBinDFWtx

I have seen this 'BULL' term tossed around in a few places. Is this just twist to make some of these couples feel more comfortable when dealing with a Dom, seperation from BDSM?

I've yet to find someone who knows what the slang means.

A bull is usually the man who fucks a hotwife in a cuckolding relationship but are also the men utilized in interracial sex by women who may or may not be married. When a bull is with a hotwife in front of her husband, no acts of humiliation need be involved.

[arrangiarsi]

Black BBC bulls are "good" for sweet pain in my tight holes ;-)