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Default What would you call it when husband wants his wife to be courted then tell him about

I have recently made the acquaintance of a couple where the male wants his wife to be courted, dated, and seduced by another male, but here's the twist...He doesn't want to watch or participate...He wants to hear about her experiences.

If he wanted to watch, we would call him a voyeur. What do we call someone who likes to hear about sexual escapades?

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I don't know what they are called but I think it is a form of voyeurism.

One of our very few FMF expierences was with a couple that had similar taste. I think the story is somewhere else on the boards but in a nutshell she was a swinger when they married and he wasn't. He didn't try to change her and would always approve her dates. We met them for dinner and drinks in their town. About 11 pm he announced that he was leaving and kissed her goodbye. We gave her a ride home and one thing led to another. The next morning we met him for breakfast before driving home.
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Default Re: What would you call it when...?

I am not sure what it is called, but this is something you read about in Penthouse a lot. Hot wife? It's not quite the same as cuckolding, since that has an element of humiliation involved.

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It's Henny Youngmanism.

Or, "take my wife, please".
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Auditory voyuerism?
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Since the mind is the primary sex organ, it's understandable. Whether the stimulation comes through the skin, the eyes or the ears, it all ends up in the same processor.
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We refer to them as listeners of our podcast

Or maybe it's Aural Sex.

Probably falls under the term erotica, but whatever the case it is a lot of fun to replay the night and get your partners take on how they perceived the evening's happenings. Makes the sex afterwards even hotter!
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Lightbulb Re: What would you call it when...?

Actually, there is a term for this as well as a whole set of people who enjoy it.

It’s called “Cuckold” or “Cuckolding.” It’s basically exactly what you described where a husband wants his wife to have an “affair” then tell him about it.

Here is the definition in the dictionary.

cuck·old (n) A man married to an unfaithful wife.

tr.v. cuck·old·ed, cuck·old·ing, cuck·olds To make a cuckold of.

Word History: The allusion to the cuckoo on which the word cuckold is based may not be appreciated by those unfamiliar with the nesting habits of certain varieties of this bird. The female of some Old World cuckoos lays its eggs in the nests of other birds, leaving them to be cared for by the resident nesters. This parasitic tendency has given the female bird a figurative reputation for unfaithfulness as well. Hence in Old French we find the word cucuault, composed of cocu, “cuckoo, cuckold,” and the pejorative suffix –ald and used to designate a husband whose wife has wandered afield like the female cuckoo. An earlier assumed form of the Old French word was borrowed into Middle English by way of Anglo-Norman. Middle English cokewold, the ancestor of Modern English cuckold, is first recorded in a work written around 1250.
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If the guy were blind, he'd be a voyeur the way he can, hu?

Now seriously, I wouldn't still say this guy fits the "cuckold" profile, as Spoomonkey stated, it'd also require an humilliation component (e.g. she does other guys and tells him how better the experience was copared with what he can provide).

I believe there's no problem to play with cuckolds IF they both are in the same page. I've seen a couple of cuckolds that introduced their spouses into swinging without her knowledge of what's the thrill for them, doing things like talking behind her back about her lovers with other people in a way they humilliate themselves, but awaking harsh feelings from these third ones towards his wife in the proccess, wich is much like cheating on her when allowing these third ones to suppose she have odd intentions. In these cases I feel they're time bombs that may blow at any time.

So I believe it's a safe measure to find out if the guy is a cuckold, and if the wife is ok with this.
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Why do you both say there has an element of humiliation involved for it to be “cuckolding?”

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Default Re: What would you call it when...?

Never mind: found a good definition online. Scroll down that page and look under "Recent usage."
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Voyeur is French for "one who sees," so I guess "one who hears" would be entendeur, entendreur, or écouteur.

Discuss.

(Yeah, one of THOSE terms is going to catch on. )

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Voyeur is French for "one who sees," so I guess "one who hears" would be entendeur, entendreur, or écouteur.

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I like those French words! One of those should do nicely.

The definition of 'cuckold' includes that word 'unfaithful' and for this reason I don't think that the traditional definition applies well to swingers. Being unfaithful means to be disloyal, and I don't see that being the case with swingers since we have sex with others with the consent of our spouse.

I've not known anyone who considers themselves in a cuckold relationship so I won't make guesses about how they view their relationship. I'd be interested in hearing from those who know more.

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I myself think the French have way too many words already. Besides, what's wrong witn Henny Youngmanism? We could say Henny's for short!

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LM,

We're dealing with two definitions for cuckolds, one, more traditional, includes the word "unfaitfull", but doesn't seem to apply for this case since the husband is aware of the wife's adventures, moreover, he's encouraging her.

But the definition I am using comes from the "new" cuckoldry lifestyle, where there isn't an "unfaitfull" behavior (and because of this is so close to swinging), but involves an humillation asked by the cucolded husband (and because of this is so close to the D/s lifestyle). Whether we like or accept such a lifestyle is a matter of personal taste, and as for me, the problem with swingers arouses when these couples aren't in the same page, the wife thinking they're both swingers and the husband seeking for humilliation behind her back.

As an example, I knew this "swinger" couple, at some point the wife got pregnant and the guy used to hang in chat rooms openly telling everyone about her pregnacy and that he wasn't the father, instead one of his wife's lovers. Even worst, i've seen him let these people believe his wife cheated on him, that she wasn't aware about his knowledge of not being the biological father, just to listen these people comments and feel humilliated in a way he didn't dare to ask his wife for. I've heard later on the guy keep doing the same, talking not only about his wife, also about his born kid. This is gross, and it's an example of what I mean about not being in the same page.
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