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Old 06-24-2003, 09:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Kids as nudist

Would you send your child to a nudist camp for kids? Is nudism ok for kids? Does this attract pedophiles? This was brought up on Good Morning America this morning. Very interesting!
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i saw the news of child nudist camps on the internet. i think the florida one is up and operating. personally, child nudist camps sound patently pornographic. thers something ugly about the thought, and florida should be ashamed. i know there are thousands of pantheists, naturists, nudists, who swear by that lifestyle, and i dont think about it one way or another. whole families at nudist camps might be acceptable, but "children," im skeptical of that. it will never work.
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i am all for a family taking part in nudist activities. but a nudist camp for kids just seems like a dangerous situation just waiting to happen.
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Nudists will say it isn't sexual for anyone, adult or child. That it is just natural.

I wonder, if you are walking down the street, & a fully clothed person turns your head and you think to yourself...wow that is one sexy body.....well then -- how can that same body -- not be sexy....once unclothed??

There are bad people everywhere, send your kid to church...fully clothed. Good luck with that one.

So does a nudist summer camp pose more of a threat to a child, or just the same amount of threat?

If you are a nudist and you believe that nudism is normal & natural then chose the camp carefully and be sure your child wants to be a nudist.

It isn't any different from any other decision any parent has to make.

Think it through, check everything out, know who your child will be with (not just their name) then go home and worry yourself half to death that you did the right thing -- till the kid comes home with all the best smiles to tell you how grand his/her time was.

Clothes -- no clothes, helmet -- no helmet, squirrel for dinner -- no squirrel for dinner...

Just cause I wouldn't do it...shouldn't mean you can't do it.

Or something.
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Oh this is bad, this is very very bad.
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Last year, our resort hosted an excellent youth camp. Yes, it was nudist. I was there for several days and saw for my self that the kids were well looked after, kept busy and their days filled with fun and interesting things to do. They were just kids. Like any other.

The point of view about a youth summer camp at a nudist resort comes from a lack of knowledge. I understand this. I would like for people to find out more about the resorts and what kids get out of camp if only for your own information. You might find the lifestyle interesting, fun and very relaxing.

Kids are in absolutely no greater risk of molestation than in clothed environments. This is hard to accept for many people. Church related textile activities are far more dangerous to our kids than at nudist camps. There is a very good reason for this.

At AANR (see aanr.com) and Naturist Society resorts, resort owners have rock hard rules about conduct. A man sporting an erection could get his self ejected for life. Any attempts by anyone, young or old, to do anything remotely out of place with a child will face the same consequences.

You see, nudists tend to be pruder than you think.

People should be aware that a nudist youth camp is really just where the kids camp together at regular family oriented resorts. They are sort of segregated from the rest of the guests and members only so that they can attend various functions and activities as young people. The Nudist Manifesto is not drilled into their heads. There isn't one. Having fun, exploring nature, good excersize and good sportsmanship is what is developed. Their own body acceptance is a side benefit, too.

Our kids did not attend such a camp. This started long after our kids were young enough to enjoy it. If they were of that age, we would have problem whatsoever to allowing (not sending) them to go.
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Ok I’m not used to the nudist seen although I don’t think I would mind trying it out for a vacation. With that said, children don’t seem to be at risk may or may not be factual. How is this so? Mentally they may be at risk I’m not sure just an opinion. And now for the question?

At these nudist camps are cloths worn by these children if they are uncomfortable do they get that choice? Can they put shorts on if they are a little embarrassed? This too me would make all the difference and the difference would be choice!
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If I had I would never send them to a nudist summer camp. Even if I personally knew the counselors and knew that they were not there to get any kind of sexual gratification from seeing naked children canoeing, swimming, and doing all the other things you do at summer camp, I remember my fist time at a summer camp. It was only three weeks but during that three weeks I had sex for the first time. Can you imagine a group of 12-14 year olds, just entering puberty, hormones raging, and of course, that summer crush where you are not restricted by trying to find a place to explore each others bodies without worrying about being caught or having to get dressed quickly?

Call me old fashioned, but I believe in giving children and teenagers as little opportunity to get into trouble while giving them as much freedom to make mistakes as possible. Kids running around are enough of a danger to themselves without adding nudity to the mix. I'm sure a lot of parents didn't want to hear this (my son/daughter would NEVER do anything like that), but didn't you? I know I did.
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Default Excellent question

Bama, no child should ever be subjected to anything that would make them uncomfortable. Nudist parents tend to be sensitive to their kids needs and comfort levels. So do the affiliated resorts. Parents could actually be asked to remove their children if it is felt that the child is showing signs that they don't want to be there. This is actually something that you can read in rules and by-laws at some resorts.

And you know, come to think of it, there were kids that wore clothes at the youth camp last year. Just this last weekend, we saw kids riding bikes and playing and they wore clothes, too. They also will take their clothes off when they want to.

There are some resorts that do actually require everyone to be nude- period, when it is warm enough. We have nothing to do with them.

Incidentally, the only studies that I have heard of, and I am not an expert on anything, is that nudist children to have a better self image. They see that they are just like everyone else- inside and out.

The saying: "If it feels good- do it" works in reverse, too. "If it doesn't feel good, don't" applies to all parts of life.

It shouldn't hurt to be a kid.
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Call me old fashioned, but I believe in giving children and teenagers as little opportunity to get into trouble while giving them as much freedom to make mistakes as possible. Kids running around are enough of a danger to themselves without adding nudity to the mix. I'm sure a lot of parents didn't want to hear this (my son/daughter would NEVER do anything like that), but didn't you? I know I did.
Good point, ES. TO answer you- no, I didn't.

However, I do know of a girl that got pregnant at a Baptist summer camp at 15. Of course, it was the behavior of a couple of kids that got her pregnant- not the church. I also know that at that same summer camp, kids smoked pot. The church did not supply this.

Now, I have not been to every nudist resort there is. But, I can say that I simply have not heard of a kid getting pregnant or being molested or whatever. I won't try to convince anyone that things never happen. But, as I think I made the point that things DO happen in even what should be an innocent, structured and religious setting, it is safe to assume that humans will be humans- with or without clothes.

Isn't that why sexy clothing exists?
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m+b thats what i wanted to know if there were rules on this you know clothing optional. or vice versa. cleard up a lot.
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Default Bama,

If you are considering visiting a resort, call them before hand. Ask every possible question that you and your wife could have. Don't be even a little embarrassed to ask anything.

Check out aanr.com, too. there is a lot of information there.

Then, if you go, get to know the members. Ask THEM questions, too.

Just a word of caution: topics about sex can get you thrown out. Although you could bring up something related to sex and have totally innocent intentions, there really are some nudists that are so uptight.

A naked conservative???? yup. I ARE one!
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yes i would go me and the wife ! what cant mention sex ! kinda hard when its stairing you in the face (mr bamas short only 5'9")
as far as the kids ill opt out not involving them ( although my 3 year old thinks cloths are for whimps and she rather run bare ass all day)
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Default Not taking sides here but..........

The camp has been in operation for 35 years without any major problems. To the best of my knowledge and what I have read there have been no civil or criminal actions filed against the camp or its counselors with regard to sexual misconduct of any kind. The only reason this came to light is some politician has decided that it is the governments business to interfere, GOD BLESS ELECTION YEARS. In any case its just one more instance where big brother thinks it is better for the village to raise your child than you. I'm not saying its right or wrong to send a child to a nudist camp, but I want to make that choice MYSELF.
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.............. In any case its just one more instance where big brother thinks it is better for the village to raise your child than you. I'm not saying its right or wrong to send a child to a nudist camp, but I want to make that choice MYSELF.
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