Good News/Bad News For Swingers In Quebec & Canada

[lovers]

The bad news first. A judge in Quebec (Canada) convicted five people of Running a common baudy house (A 'common bawdy-house' is any place used 'for the purpose of prostitution or the practice of acts of indecency.') and/or being present in a common baudy house. The house in question was a on-premise swingers club.

The good news: The judge in quesiton said "that Canadian society would tolerate swingers clubs, as long as the sexual acts that take place in those clubs take place in private."

The net result, on-premise swing clubs which are few and far between in Canada (most of them located in Quebec) will likely sprout up everywhere.

You can read more at any of the following links:

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/...tory/National/

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ub=CTVNewsAt11

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/07/04...rruling_030704

http://www.canada.com/ottawa/story.a...C-56317375CCEC

[BradAndJanet]

Interesting articles! I'm curious though, how many people does it take to constitute an 'orgy'? Is a threesome one, or a foursome? And, what constitutes 'public' sex. If everyone is participating and no one is watching, is it OK? Would standing there masturbating be considered 'participating'?

I think this raises more questions than it answers...

Thanks for posting it!

-B

[naughty A]

this is not the first time these rulings have been made.

but it is the reason why almost ALL the clubs are OFF premise and why MOST of them are very careful about prohibiting ANY sexual acts to take place ON premise.

[lovers]

I'd say that *some* club owners don't want to take that chance on having on-premise activity. But from other swingers that I talk to, there are a lot who want on-premise clubs. Club owners are listening and seeing as this ruling has popped up, some club owners may give the people what they want.

I believe that it's only going to be a matter of time before on-site clubs start to pop up.

[CanadianCouple]

I got a kick out of the thread's title.

"Good News/Bad News For Swingers In Quebec & Canada" (Emphasis mine)

How very true.

Dan

[naughty A]

Originally posted by lovers
I'd say that *some* club owners don't want to take that chance on having on-premise activity. But from other swingers that I talk to, there are a lot who want on-premise clubs. Club owners are listening and seeing as this ruling has popped up, some club owners may give the people what they want.

I believe that it's only going to be a matter of time before on-site clubs start to pop up.

That's funny - ALL the ones I talk to want to STAY with the OFF-PREMISE with the only an occasional (1-2x a year) on-premise party privately organized.

so as long as there is a CHOICE - in clubs - I'm sure there will be some of each...

I have *heard* that it is generally Quebec that does favour the on-premise and makes it into the news with the most regularity. AND that they have indeed *occasionally* deserved the harsh rulings they have received in the past.

While I am sure that there may be other cities/locations that want to go ON-premise... and far be it for me to dictate to other swingers BUT I very much hope that MY local club does not ...or I will be forced to go looking for an alternate club.

Fine the court ruling made swinging legal... but it already was.. wasn't it... as long as it took place privately

I thought it was really interesting that this club was run by the man and HIS daughter... where's his wife/ SO in all of this?

And I'd like to cast my vote for DREADFUL - I'd like things to stay the way they are...

[ArcaneReference]

Dan, that's really funny! You may just singlehandedly initiate another referendum.

[CanadianCouple]

Originally posted by ArcaneReference
Dan, that's really funny! You may just singlehandedly initiate another referendum.

Let's hope we can get the correct result next time around. Bon voyage, traitors!!

Dan

With the recent rulings in both Ontario, and BC allowing same sex marrage, I would think any kind of laws that prohibit non-profit, adult, consensual sexual activity in Canada will soon be on the way out.

Pretty soon it'll be like Holland here! walk down the street smoking a fatty, pick up a hooker and have her give you a hummer while you watch a live sex show.

[naughty A]

don't forget Vancouver just got the first shooting gallery in North America...


This apparantly is a set up where junkies can come in ... obtain clean needles and shoot up under medical supervision... apparantly they have nursing staff on hand to assist in the event of overdose or whatever...

[jen]

[quote]

don't forget Vancouver just got the first shooting gallery in North America...


This apparantly is a set up where junkies can come in ... obtain clean needles and shoot up under medical supervision... apparantly they have nursing staff on hand to assist in the event of overdose or whatever...

You're kidding..?..?

And they call Vegas sin city?

[velbuzz]

Trends have historically started in California and moved east.

Looks like maybe Canada will lead the way in some other areas. Just hope the good ones do.

And I agree that the recent privacy ruling in the US will start eliminating the consenual sexual regulations currently on the books.

Originally posted by naughty A
don't forget Vancouver just got the first shooting gallery in North America...

LOL.. That's true I forgot about that one. No one really knows what to make of that one here. There's a 4 by 2 block section of downtown Vancouver that's infested with drug addicts and dealers and the whole 9 yards of what you'd expect.

I guess if giving them needles helps to stop the spread of AIDS and all that, it could be a good thing..... time will tell

[NotsoNew]

Interesting. I actually saw an update today. I think it was in the Washington Post website.