Is swinging deadly?

Angelita · 06-05-2003, 11:13 AM

I read an article yesterday about a couple up north that would go to swingers clubs and pick up another couple, and then take them back to a hotel...well the end of it is, three couples were lured in and killed.

Like all good things, there are people trying to manipulate it for bad. This is one of the reasons we can't get any cute chickies out to our cabin

And now I have to say..I can't blame them. The couple that committed the crimes were caught & are being prosecuted, but this is scary to me! I love swinging and I place a lot of trust in people (you kind of have to in this lifestyle), but this showed me that not everyone out there is up to good. The question now is, how to distinguish? Or how to keep oneself from being in this situation?

Just wondering if anyone has thoughts on this..

Brit_Pair · 06-05-2003, 11:54 AM

Well, there are people out there who pretend to be priests and handicapped people in an attempt to lure unsuspecting victims to an unsavoury end. Hell, there are actual priests who’ve done some pretty unsavoury things.

The point is, it’s hard to be 100% certain about anyone in this world – after all, statistics show that the majority of murder victims knew their murderers very well. But if you follow this train of thought to its inevitable conclusion, you’ll end up as a paranoid basket case, locked in your house alone behind steel doors and barred windows, afraid to venture out or even to make contact with anyone who isn’t on the other end of a telephone or a door peephole viewer.

All any of us can really do is take common sense precautions, minimise the risks, and remember that the statistics are in our favour: the chances of anything such as the scenario you described happening to any of us are pretty remote.

(I'm not sure where a visit to a stranger's cabin fits into all that!

)

Angelita · 06-05-2003, 11:59 AM

I agree, the chances are slim to none - it just made me realize that some (usually younger or newer-to-the-scene) people don't have those rules in place (I do!) such as meeting publicly, knowing someone well, etc. I have found the most wonderful people here and I feel infinitely more comfortable in the swinging lifestyle than before I found the site! I was just curious as to what other people's "rules" are when going to swing clubs or meeting new people.

OhioCouple · 06-05-2003, 12:03 PM

I agree with everything Mr. Brit said. Danger can appear to lurk around every corner if you let it. Using your head and following your instincts, keeps 99.9% of us out of harms way.

Mr. Brit, Angelita had posted a thread earlier about how to get a female to join them for a weekend of fun in their cabin which is very remote. They were finding that most single females were wary of going into a secluded area with someone they hardly know.

Swinger ?

Nymph an' Satyr · 06-05-2003, 12:03 PM

Wasn't there a cabin in the movie Deliverance?

naughty A · 06-05-2003, 01:36 PM

I hadn't heard anything about this new story ...

can you provide more details or a link to the news story?

I remember how really awful I felt hearing the details of the Homolka/Bernardo (?sp) trial and even though they were not swingers to my knowledge that seriously influenced my attitudes about entering the lifestyle for some time. There are some sick people out there.

Naughty A.

Roxysbayou · 06-05-2003, 02:06 PM

There was also a guy and girl in the Mississippi area that killed two prostitutes after bringing them home. I actually drilled with the guy in the Navy. Very scary. They apparently killed them at their apartment and he dumped them off of a bridge on the way to drill one morning. I didn't know him personally, but had definitey been around him, as we both frequented the smoking area. I sometimes keep that in the back of my head when meeting new people. You just never know.

uneed_love2 · 06-05-2003, 02:11 PM

Since we are new to the lifestyle, I think I would try reputable clubs first, not the hotels.

I noticed however that in my everyday life, when I listen to my intuition or gutt feeling, I am fine. When I ignore it, that's when things happen that I don't want to repeat.

The airlines are suffering because many people are afraid to travel. It is most likely a lot safer to fly now than it was 10 years ago. So that will not stop me.

Statistics show that most people die in bed... if I had a laptop, I would be there right now...

So just to tell you, I am going to live my life the way I want to. And if that little voice tells me not to do something, then I know from experience that I do very well to follow its advise! Even if it means to take a detour. Because every time I didn't listen, I had to pay a huge price!

DragonsLair · 06-05-2003, 04:32 PM

Life in general is dangerous. Everything we eat, drink and breathe can kill us.

Usually listening to our gut instincts is the smartest course of action. If it feels wrong, it probably is wrong.

DragonsLair

He is T. I am A.

***JustAskJulie*** · 06-05-2003, 04:37 PM

Hmm... actually there was an episode of CSI: Miami that covered that same thing.... a couple was using swinging to find upscale couples then they'd get the couple to invite them back to their homes and rob them. Things turned deadly of course.

There are risks anytime you meet new people in any way. It has less to do with swinging than with the way the world works in general. The same things happen through personal ads, or just going out to a bar (your drink gets spiked, then what?). Life is full of risks.

Regarding your situation, your best bet really is to find a girl and really get to know her and spend time with her. No one (single female or couple) in their right mind is going to agree to go off to a cabin in the woods with someone that they don't know.

Nymph an' Satyr · 06-05-2003, 10:27 PM

Julie 's got it. Healthy caution- that's all. I work at a college, and we teach the kids not to drink a beverage that they didn't open, or that was out of their control- because of roofies. Just good sense. We need to always be aware- regardless of what we are doing.

Our lifestyle is much less dangerous than many- but you need to keep your eyes open

Uneed_Love · 06-06-2003, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DragonsLair
Everything we eat, drink and breathe can kill us.

Here is my advice :
STOP to eat!
STOP to drink!
and last but not least STOP to breathe!

I see no other good solution to escape

JC

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06-05-2003, 11:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Angelita Active Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12 Location: VA Status: Half of a m/f couple!	Is swinging deadly? I read an article yesterday about a couple up north that would go to swingers clubs and pick up another couple, and then take them back to a hotel...well the end of it is, three couples were lured in and killed. Like all good things, there are people trying to manipulate it for bad. This is one of the reasons we can't get any cute chickies out to our cabin And now I have to say..I can't blame them. The couple that committed the crimes were caught & are being prosecuted, but this is scary to me! I love swinging and I place a lot of trust in people (you kind of have to in this lifestyle), but this showed me that not everyone out there is up to good. The question now is, how to distinguish? Or how to keep oneself from being in this situation? Just wondering if anyone has thoughts on this..
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06-05-2003, 11:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
Angelita Active Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12 Location: VA Status: Half of a m/f couple!	I agree, the chances are slim to none - it just made me realize that some (usually younger or newer-to-the-scene) people don't have those rules in place (I do!) such as meeting publicly, knowing someone well, etc. I have found the most wonderful people here and I feel infinitely more comfortable in the swinging lifestyle than before I found the site! I was just curious as to what other people's "rules" are when going to swing clubs or meeting new people.
	__________________ (P)roper (E)ducation (A)lways (C)auses (E)levation

06-05-2003, 12:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
OhioCouple Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,619 Location: Ohio Status: Married Female	I agree with everything Mr. Brit said. Danger can appear to lurk around every corner if you let it. Using your head and following your instincts, keeps 99.9% of us out of harms way. Mr. Brit, Angelita had posted a thread earlier about how to get a female to join them for a weekend of fun in their cabin which is very remote. They were finding that most single females were wary of going into a secluded area with someone they hardly know. Swinger ?
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06-05-2003, 01:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
naughty A Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 997 Location: windsor ontario Status: couple - female half	I hadn't heard anything about this new story ... can you provide more details or a link to the news story? I remember how really awful I felt hearing the details of the Homolka/Bernardo (?sp) trial and even though they were not swingers to my knowledge that seriously influenced my attitudes about entering the lifestyle for some time. There are some sick people out there. Naughty A.
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06-05-2003, 11:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
Brit_Pair Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,635 Location: UK Status: Couple	Well, there are people out there who pretend to be priests and handicapped people in an attempt to lure unsuspecting victims to an unsavoury end. Hell, there are actual priests who’ve done some pretty unsavoury things. The point is, it’s hard to be 100% certain about anyone in this world – after all, statistics show that the majority of murder victims knew their murderers very well. But if you follow this train of thought to its inevitable conclusion, you’ll end up as a paranoid basket case, locked in your house alone behind steel doors and barred windows, afraid to venture out or even to make contact with anyone who isn’t on the other end of a telephone or a door peephole viewer. All any of us can really do is take common sense precautions, minimise the risks, and remember that the statistics are in our favour: the chances of anything such as the scenario you described happening to any of us are pretty remote. (I'm not sure where a visit to a stranger's cabin fits into all that! )

06-05-2003, 12:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nymph an' Satyr Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 352 Location: Street, Maryland Status: Couple Swing Lifestyle Name:nymphansatyr	Wasn't there a cabin in the movie Deliverance?

06-05-2003, 02:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Roxysbayou Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,376 Location: Louisiana Status: Married Female Swing Lifestyle Name:likethat	There was also a guy and girl in the Mississippi area that killed two prostitutes after bringing them home. I actually drilled with the guy in the Navy. Very scary. They apparently killed them at their apartment and he dumped them off of a bridge on the way to drill one morning. I didn't know him personally, but had definitey been around him, as we both frequented the smoking area. I sometimes keep that in the back of my head when meeting new people. You just never know.
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06-05-2003, 02:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
uneed_love2 Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 161 Location: Vancouver, Canada Status: long term relationship	Since we are new to the lifestyle, I think I would try reputable clubs first, not the hotels. I noticed however that in my everyday life, when I listen to my intuition or gutt feeling, I am fine. When I ignore it, that's when things happen that I don't want to repeat. The airlines are suffering because many people are afraid to travel. It is most likely a lot safer to fly now than it was 10 years ago. So that will not stop me. Statistics show that most people die in bed... if I had a laptop, I would be there right now... So just to tell you, I am going to live my life the way I want to. And if that little voice tells me not to do something, then I know from experience that I do very well to follow its advise! Even if it means to take a detour. Because every time I didn't listen, I had to pay a huge price!
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06-05-2003, 04:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
DragonsLair Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,020 Location: Cleveland, OH Status: Married Couple	Life in general is dangerous. Everything we eat, drink and breathe can kill us. Usually listening to our gut instincts is the smartest course of action. If it feels wrong, it probably is wrong. DragonsLair He is T. I am A.

06-05-2003, 04:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
*JustAskJulie* Your Hostess Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 29,288 Location: In my House Status: Female Swing Lifestyle Name:swingersboard	Hmm... actually there was an episode of CSI: Miami that covered that same thing.... a couple was using swinging to find upscale couples then they'd get the couple to invite them back to their homes and rob them. Things turned deadly of course. There are risks anytime you meet new people in any way. It has less to do with swinging than with the way the world works in general. The same things happen through personal ads, or just going out to a bar (your drink gets spiked, then what?). Life is full of risks. Regarding your situation, your best bet really is to find a girl and really get to know her and spend time with her. No one (single female or couple) in their right mind is going to agree to go off to a cabin in the woods with someone that they don't know.
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06-05-2003, 10:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nymph an' Satyr Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 352 Location: Street, Maryland Status: Couple Swing Lifestyle Name:nymphansatyr	Julie 's got it. Healthy caution- that's all. I work at a college, and we teach the kids not to drink a beverage that they didn't open, or that was out of their control- because of roofies. Just good sense. We need to always be aware- regardless of what we are doing. Our lifestyle is much less dangerous than many- but you need to keep your eyes open

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