Swingers Party at Hotel Angers Parents

[jennandjamesinm]

I ran across this in my surfing. Do you think that the management had the obligation to notify the soccer parents? Why or Why not?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10694292/

[txduo2000]

Oh my!

I am a swinger AND a mother, and I would have been JUST as angry as those soccer parents if I walked into a hotel with my children and saw the goings-on that they apparently witnessed then had to explain to their children! This is the very reason that I would never feel comfortable going to a mainstream hotel for a swingers event. We stick to strictly swingers venues.

Hotels generally put a big sign in the lobby declaring that a Shriner's Convention, Weddings, Receptions, business conventions, bar mitzvahs, etc. are going on. I suppose my opinion is leaning a little toward that they should have had some type of notification to the general mainstream public, even if not a big public sign in the lobby, to let folks know and make an informed decision.

I would not blame those families ONE BIT if they chose to arrange a boycott of that hotel. I mean, COME ON!!!! Why in the hell were the swingers situated in a ballroom that could be viewed through a glass atrium by the public????? That is absolutely ridiculous!

[Pinmonkey]

I don't think management had any obligation to tell anyone who else was booked into the hotel. After all if they had and the holy rollers showed up to demonstrate I would be just as pissed.

However, putting them in an area where they weren't totally private, and whomever arranged the party, not demanding that they be totally private are both at fault. A little common sense and discretion could have fixed this situation before it even began.

And what's up with the quote "The parents described the dress at the Crowne Plaza Hotel-Airport in Orlando as 'raunchy, despicable and worse than prostitutes.'" Somehow I think that, because prostitution is illegal, it isn't worse.

[intuition897]

I think the onus should be on the organizers for the swingers' event to to arrange a suitable place to enjoy their event. Did they not look up throught the glass atrium and see the little faces peering down at them? If they had, many swingers being parents themselves, they would've been mortified I think.

[midnight hour]

http://www.newsnet5.com/family/5820194/detail.html

making the rounds on the message boards.
Lynch time for the swingers again...

midnight hour

[WildMiCouple]

How come I never got to see any of this stuff when I was 13 yrs old

I agree with Intuition on this one. It should be up to the organizers to "case the joint" prior to reserving it. Who knows if the hotel had any info specific to a swingers party in the first place. Here locally, the off-premise dances all have good relationships with both the hotels and local police. They've let both know what's going on to keep surprises at a minimum. I'd be willing to bet the party organizers failed to do their part on this one.

Brett

[WildMiCouple]

This is already being discussed in the Cafe section in this post:
http://www.swingersboard.com/forums/...749#post202749

Brett

[Thrax]

Although the article had the line, "The parents described the dress at the Crowne Plaza Hotel-Airport in Orlando as "raunchy, despicable and worse than prostitutes" (which, frankly, if you've been to some big swing parties, is accurate for some party-goers), the parents interviewed in the article seemed to find the hotel at fault, not the swingers. If you've seen the television "scandal" pieces concerning swing clubs and parties on the news in Ohio and some other midwestern states, the reaction of the people that were offended in this instance appears to be rather tame.

For instance, from the NewsNet5 article: "My biggest gripe is that the hotel had two distinctly different groups under the same roof," said Camporini, 49. "A soccer team and middle-aged swingers should not have been booked together."

It's not necessarily the swingers' fault that non-swingers could see into the atrium and get an eyeful of boobs, etc. I think it is the hotel's fault, as well as the organizers of the event.

The following is from the link also: "The families said the sexually adventurous partygoers sometimes flashed breasts and bare buttocks in front of the children as they sashayed through the hotel atrium." Now, to me, if adults were exposing themselves in the presence of children in the public areas of the hotel, the swingers should take some blame. It's one thing to expose children to nudity in a nudist environment, it's a big difference to expose children to nudity in the sexually-charged environment of a swing event.

Anyway, even if the parents at the hotel were more upset with the establishment than the swingers, I'm afraid the general public will overlook that fact and just blame the swingers for the problem.

Sheesh, if that kind of stuff goes on in Orlando hotels, what's next? Gays arranging to meet up at Disney World on specific weekends? :rollseyes

[curious49251]

Originally Posted by midnight hour

http://www.newsnet5.com/family/5820194/detail.html

making the rounds on the message boards.
Lynch time for the swingers again...

midnight hour

Oh brother. I think this quote is quite telling...

"My biggest gripe is that the hotel had two distinctly different groups under the same roof," said Camporini, 49. "A soccer team and middle-aged swingers should not have been booked together."

So, a party with 20-something's scantily-clad would have been ok? This guy was upset that older men and women are embracing their sexuality and wearing reveling outfits, so he's raising a stink.

There could have been some inappropriate behavior, just as there could be with 200 drunken non-swingers.

I'm sure his kids will need therapy. If he actually did need to explain to his kids what swinging is, and I highly doubt he did, I'm sure he gave an uneducated opinion of it. "well, kids, that's what swinger's do, they get naked in hotel lobbies, then have sex with everyone. I'm calling the TV stations!"

[midnight hour]

whoops sorry..drive by posting..lol

[JustAskJulie]

1. There's a good chance management wasn't aware of the "swingers". Too often groups book these things without being upfront with the hotel managements (for fear that doing so would keep them from getting the rooms). 2. Most hotels aren't likely to turn down a block of 200 rooms (or 100 rooms as is probably closer to right if there were 200 partygoers). 3. I doubt seriously that most hotels check their schedules to try to not book clashing events together.

I recall a swinger party I attended several years back where they had a standing discount at a local hotel on the night of their social. The same night we went to the social (and stayed at said hotel) there was some relgious gathering also staying there.

The BIG problem I see here is the lack of discretion that said swingers showed if they really were flashing and such in front of children. I mean granted it's NYE and when alchohol flows things can get wild, but still some lines shouldn't be crossed. That said, if the soccer parents complained and noone even responded to their complaints or attempted to do anything then that is a problem on the part of the hotel.

Was the hotel responsible for letting them soccer parents know there was a swinger party the same weekend? I don't think so. IMO, it's NYE and you are taking your kids to a hotel, you should expect to see some wildness.

[midnight hour]

recall a swinger party I attended several years back where they had a standing discount at a local hotel on the night of their social. The same night we went to the social (and stayed at said hotel) there was some relgious gathering also staying there.

The hotel that our socials are held in has chruch services in one of the banquet rooms the following sunday...
the bad thing is many a blurry eyed person has to fight the congeration line to get to the coffee pots..
though I am waiting for it to be sniffed out...

midnight hour

[imsnowman]

The police officer who was there said he didn't see anything illegal. I would imagine that floks dressed like the complainers said would have been illegal. So who do you believe, the policeman or the complainers? How much effort did the complainers have to make to see the action?

[midnight hour]

Originally Posted by imsnowman

The police officer who was there said he didn't see anything illegal. I would imagine that floks dressed like the complainers said would have been illegal. So who do you believe, the policeman or the complainers? How much effort did the complainers have to make to see the action?

Well I am thinking they were street legal....the same as if they had been on the beach, would the parents have pulled their kids off the beach from a bunch of teens wearing thongs or was it the middle age that sit them back...i.e if they were ken and barbie would this ever been a problem?
I have a hard time seeing grown women flashing children here okay..am wondering if they did not wander into a part of the hotel that was more or less closed to the public?

[JustAskJulie]

Originally Posted by midnight hour

The hotel that our socials are held in has chruch services in one of the banquet rooms the following sunday...
the bad thing is many a blurry eyed person has to fight the congeration line to get to the coffee pots..
though I am waiting for it to be sniffed out...

midnight hour

Makes you wonder if the hotel doesn't plan it that way in order to try to help convert all the sinners.