How to Open a Swing Club?

[Close Encounters]

Opening a club is not that much different than opening any other kind of business.

Develop a business plan, set a budget, review your plan with your accountant and attorney, obtain a location, get the necessary permits for the renovations the location will no doubt need, hire the contractors, get your occupancy permit and then your business license, get your federal employer Id # then hire your staff. You'll probably want to hire a sound engineer to design your sounds system.

It sounds as though you want a club for you and your wife to go to that is close by. IF you really want to give up swinging then you should by all means open a club for others to enjoy.

[fun_pairTX]

Clubs are very much a break even proposition. Fun is a question, the ppls that have successful clubs NEVER participate.

[SluttyWife]

Yes, we did. It's work, too.

You need a plan, a website, a place, a NASCA affiliation
and plenty of time to tend to the nitty gritty of
processing memberships, and wearing the hats of social director,
event planner, webmaster, book and recordkeeper and game leader.

Deep pockets help, too or a partner in your venture.

You need to advertise if you want to
be a success and you need to really love meeting people and what you are doing in general.

Think on these before preceding. More than anything I recommend you get some books on running a nightclub
if you can find any.


Hope this helps ;-*

Slutty Wife

[Tom & Bonnie]

Originally posted by Close Encounters
IF you really want to give up swinging then you should by all means open a club for others to enjoy.

Boy, you sure nailed it there!!!

Celibate in a World of Swingers
We are....

[SuenRon]

Anyone that opens up their own club had better plan on putting their sex lives on hold for a while. It's a lot of work!
Sue

[bhawk]

in random order:

first and foremost, lots of good and friendly, sexy, descrete, open minded members.

dressing rooms with lockers so you can change from street clothes to play clothes. a good place to lock up valuables, keys etc.
nice big, clean hot tub(s)
three or more play rooms.... one for voyers and exhibitionists so they can see or be seen. one that has private areas. and one that is a group room for no clothing allowed and no lurkers.
restrooms with showers, just in case a shower is wanted/needed.
nice dance floor
a stage with a stripper bar for strip shows and wet t-shirt contests, etc.
nice sound system. nice big selection of all kinds of music and a really great DJ/MC
nice area for mixing your drinks. maybe even a bartender
a place for a good selection for food. the food has to be kept at safe temperatures
xxx films on big screen TVs
plenty of towels, wet wipes, and condoms conviently placed around the facility
a lounge area for visiting flirting and play
someone to cruise the place for security
a private website/forum so members can communicate and safely exchange/post pics, set up meetings, and stay in touch. a good way to inform members about upcumming events, contests, or theme nights.

these are some of the things i thought of, off the top of my head. any other ideas to make the 'ultimate club'?

[xxoticangel]

When I hit the big lottery I going to open a swingers resort. It will be similar to Hedo but be stateside and open sex will be allowed/encouraged. There will be a board elected by the members that make and enforce the rules. Single me will also have to petition the board for membership. Condos will be available for rental or purchase as well as camp sites. I will have a heated pool, hot tub, sun bathing area that is NOT clothing optional. There will be selecuted areas throughout the grounds couples can get away for recreation under the stars/sun. There will be themed dances on Friday and Saturday nights in the club house. There will also be themed private/semi-private rooms in the club house for couples that are not staying overnight. The club house will be almost exactly like bhawk described with a well equiped dungeon. It will be in the south so that we can open the weekend after Easter and stay open 7 days through Halloween and be open Thursday-Saturday year round.

There will be seminars on Saturday afternoons where "experts" in different fields (ie BDSM, S/M) or respected lifestyle people like Julie will give classes and answer questions.

The problem I run into is costs. To get everything I want I would have to charge around $1000 per year membership and $150 per night for condo rental. Guess its a good thing I didn't hit the $280 mil last weekend I would be going nuts trying to figure this out by now.

[JustAskJulie]

Originally Posted by xxoticangel

The problem I run into is costs. To get everything I want I would have to charge around $1000 per year membership and $150 per night for condo rental. Guess its a good thing I didn't hit the $280 mil last weekend I would be going nuts trying to figure this out by now.

What you described isn't too far off from a typical nudist resort and those prices really aren't that far off as well..... membership is probably a bit higher but if you have options for non members it could probably even out.

[remox]

Actually, in opening any such venture you have a number of problems and financing the cost is just the first and most obvious one. Zoning/Licensing and desirability of available locations are probably going to be an even bigger problems.

I like the ideas expressed above in all the posts in this thread. I try to offer as much of them as I can. But I always have to compromise because of costs, and legalities (zoning, licensing, and location).

Best of luck to you,
Hope you win the lottery anyway.

[VegasLee]

Something besides laws you need to think about if you want to own a club.

Do you like to party? If you do are you willing to give up that pleasure? When you are running the parties in most places in this country you can not party. If you benefit from the $$ collected in any way then you can not party. You will find also that putting on parties takes LOTS OF HOURS AND WORK!. Most of the time you are to tired to party when you do this enough.

PeeWee and Gail can attest to what I am saying here. We have been hosting parties for many years and there is a lot more work to it then most people even think of. You think, well, I had a big party at my house and it was not that bad. Then you do three, four of them a week for many years and you are going to find out different.

Also you will need plenty of money. Most clubs don't make money for years if at all. You might be able to con a few people into putting up money but chances are you will not be able to pay your investors back.

I have been watching one couple here in Vegas for about four years now. They keep getting investors, they open a club, a couples months later the parties are over. They run out of money since it did not go the "way they thought it would." They are now on their fourth place, been open since Halloween and they had six people last Friday night. Their montyly bills are HUGE. I will be surprised if they have their New Years Eve party since they are scambling for money to make the bills already.

You look at clubs and see big crowds. Remember, most of them with big crowds have been there for years and have very devoted owners.

Running a club can be fun if you have the right frame of mind for it but if you are in it for the money then think twice about it. If you can put up lots of money, wait years to make any and like to have parties because the ones coming to them have fun and you enjoy that then this is the business for you.

Once you got all that handled. Can you live with being outed by the city, county, state, police and the local press. I can promise you that at some time you will end up in your local newspaper or on T.V. Do you have good attorneys that know this business well? Hope so, most years they will make more off your business then you will.

Besides running parties, we go to other parties so WE CAN PLAY! Yes, we like to do that also.

Good luck to all that think about getting in the party business.

[NymphoWind]

Here in Vancouver BC there are a few Swingers clubs, which are a great place for people to meet, on the topic of these places, we wanted to hear how a person would come to open a swingers club?

Many swingers prefer to set up play sessions at hotels, and I was interested/in thought of wanting to open a Swingers club/Hotel, a place people can meet, hook up, and so on, can you give any advice as to how we could make this happen?
How we can bring in the right crowd?
Idea's for what you think would make a better swingers club/hotel compared to others would also be great!

Thanks!
- NymphoWind

[justinandtricia]

You might want to get ideas from people that like to attend these clubs, ask them what they like about the ones that they currently go to, and what you think they could add to improve the experience. I think it would be awesome to raise the capital to start a business like that. Maybe find partners(other couples that are financially well off but cant afford to do it alone) and go in to business together. The only major thing you would have to watch out for is trying to profiteer. If swinger parties and clubs is something you enjoy, and thats the reason you would want to open one, the go for it, just make sure you dont get greedy with it, use the member dues to improve on it, keep it looking nice, and adding features that will draw more people. I have seen a few of these clubs that looked nice when they first opened, but the owners were in it solely to make money and could care less about the condition of the club, everything was all dusty, various stains everywhere because they didnt replace furniture, bedding, etc. it was just a nasty hole in the wall.

So there you have it, successful running of a place like that would start with:
1. Keep it nonprofit and use all dues and procedes to improve and maintain the club.
2. Location is key, keep it out of city limits so zoning and privacy isnt an issue, but close to a major interstate exit.
3. Ask your members regularly what they think you could do to improve it.

[BiloxiCouple]

Get a lawyer first.

Find out how much money you can throw away each month.

Find a place that will satisfy the first two requirements.

The trick to success is a trick.

[ALilOEverything]

I'm really good friends with a couple who just opened up a new hotel party a couple months ago and I was updated throughout their process. This is a party where they have a dance in a ballroom and then take the party upstairs to the rooms. I know quite a bit about these types of parties. There are several parties like this in Michigan and many are quite successful. First they had to pick a town and check out their regulations. Then they had to contact various hotels in that town to find one interested in allowing the club to participate there. They found in this State they had more luck with foreign owned hotels than U.S. owned hotels. A team of workers then needs to be assembled and it takes several people to run a good party. Most of the team are volunteers who get perks like free enterance, free rooms or their rooms at cost. Security is necessary for two areas. One in the dance area to make sure everything runs smooth and legal. The other is in the main party floor of the hotel where the after party takes place. They make sure only guests of the club enter that floor of the hotel not other patrons. Some clubs have a designated couple who turns the main suites on the floor into main party rooms. Those suites resemble an on premise club. When charging members they usually charge a fee for the dance with allows couples into the party upstairs. Often there is a special deal if they go to the dance and book a room.

As for bringing in the right crowd, I've noticed the team members are a great resource for recruitment so it's important to chose them well. When you advertise make sure it sounds classy and well organized.

One really neat thing this couple did was find a hotel that allowed them to take over the pool area. At 11pm all regular patrons are to clear the area as usual and at 12 team members go in and discreetly block all the windows and decorate it. The ballroom party ends at 1am so the area is all ready to go. It's been such a huge hit that within three parties the club has totally taken over the entire hotel and no need for the hotel to book vanilla patrons.