Theft at clubs

[LFM2]

The following was posted in our local swingers forum, and just wondered how often theft happens at clubs, parties or whatever get-togethers you have. Obviously, I have removed their names, emails and phone numbers.

TO THE PERSON WHOLE STOLE MY WATCH AND KEYS AT THE CROSS BREED PARTY LAST NIGHT:

YOU HAVE 24 HOURS FOR THOSE ITEMS TO SHOW UP AT XXXXXXX's HOME. NO HARM NO FOUL. CONTACT THEM AT XXXXXX

That watch was given to me as a birthday gift by my wife 8 years ago.
I will not only prosecute for felony burglary, I will pay a reward to
anyone leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons
responsible for stealing my keys and watch.

You can contact me at XXXXXXXX.

Incidentally, these items were not stolen and were later found by the hosts of the party. The hostess remarked that there seems to be an honor system among swingers and the alternative lifestylers, so now it seems everyone is really flaming the OP and ready to hang him because of his assumption that the items were stolen.

I mean stealing is pretty low as it is, but to steal from your friends is even lower. Do you have any thoughts??

[getnit2gethr]

We were at a lifestyle event last saturady and a woman couldn't find her purse. She was searching for over an hour as far as we could tell. The place was packed with about 300 people. Anyone could have taken it with a very low chance of being caught. As you might expect she found it. We are fairly new and have been to only about 8 events but we have yet to hear of theft in the LS.

[LikeMinds321]

I think stealing can happen at any time so it is best to always keep what's important to you, on you, or in view.

I watched a program on Oprah, I think, about people who were habitual stealers. These were some of the nicest people you could imagine. It was an illness within them that needed professional help; they all felt 'controlled' by their 'need' to steal.

Of course, few people who steal fit into the above category. But I mention it to make the point that you can't look at someone and know if they are people who would steal. Stealing has little to do with whether you have enough money to buy those items yourself.

Most often I pack what I need in my pockets and don't even carry a purse to swinger events. Our play bag is the exception, and we keep that in view in the playroom.

I once left my tiny purse on a ledge surrounding the dance floor at swinger event - lots of people in attendance - and it was in view but I took my eyes off my purse for just a brief time. When I went back for it it was gone. I went straight to the registration table and there it was, turned in by someone. Everything was inside, including the $20 bill. It felt good knowing that it wasn't stolen, but I learned then never to be so careless. Someone not so nice may have picked it up.

LM

[Tybee Swing]

Originally Posted by LFM2

I mean stealing is pretty low as it is, but to steal from your friends is even lower. Do you have any thoughts??

I agree that the man shouldn't have jumped to conclusions with his angry theft post. But still, things happen, and not everybody at a Lifestyle event is a friend. In fact, most of them might be barely acquaintences or complete strangers.

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

I think stealing can happen at any time so it is best to always keep what's important to you, on you, or in view.

I watched a program on Oprah, I think, about people who were habitual stealers. These were some of the nicest people you could imagine. It was an illness within them that needed professional help; they all felt 'controlled' by their 'need' to steal.

I had a personal friend like this. She lived in a huge home and had anything she wanted, but she stole from some of her closest friends, and I mean, credit card theft. She was in a position to do so. Although her friends didn't press charges, she lost a lot of friends over it. You just can't be too careful!

[aahours1]

Stealing can happen at anytime. Between, so called friends or even in the lifestyle. Even though you may view it as not stealing, it could fall in that catagory. We became aquaintances then friends with this couple, talked, went to socials together, boating. I even helped him on some jobs for construction when he needed help (I am retired). I also hired him to do some jobs around the house for me, paid him 1/2 upfront and then when job was completed, would pay the other half. Had a rough time getting him to come out and do the job. Then loaned him over 600 Karaoka songs for a job he was going to do and he never returned them, so I had to take him to small claims court. So now our friendship is no more and he still owes me for the disc's. I think this is stealing in my book. So DO NOT ever say, that it cannot happen in this lifestyle. We are proof it does happen. Just be careful on chosing your friends no matter what lifestyle or area you are in.

[Thrax]

I have some friends who are fanatical about golfing. To a man (and woman) they say that they have had more items stolen from them in the locker rooms of the upscale private courses than they have ever lost in the locker rooms of public courses. From what they say, although they are generally careful of their golf equipment and valuables in all situations, they have "lost" more clothing items, small jewelry (chains, bracelets, etc.), souvenir towels, packs of golfballs and tees, etc., in the pricier places. Initially, they were surprised that some folks in the posh clubs would be so acquisitive, but we figured that there are some folks out there, that no matter how much they have, they feel they have the right to take more. :rollseyes

Sad.

Thrax

[good times]

You know, we are pretty trusting people, we don't even bring a lock for our locker at the club. Never lost anything yet, then again, if we were to put anything in our locker that we couldn't afford to lose we would probably lock it up.

The only thing we have ever heard anyone complain about losing at a club is at the one club in town that is BYOB. Seems every once in a while someone thinks the booze someone else brought is better than what they had and decides to help themselves. Then again, those same complaining people just might not want to admit that they drank the whole thing.

[lovinher]

It is said over and over again that swingers are everyday, normal people.
So wouldnt it make sense that swingers steal, lie and cheat as does the general population? If swingers want to be accepted by society, we should not have the we are better attitude or are somehow more enlightened than the anyone else.

[LFM2]

Originally Posted by aahours1

Stealing can happen at anytime. Between, so called friends or even in the lifestyle. Even though you may view it as not stealing, it could fall in that catagory. <snip>I think this is stealing in my book. So DO NOT ever say, that it cannot happen in this lifestyle. We are proof it does happen. Just be careful on chosing your friends no matter what lifestyle or area you are in.

Yes, I agree that's stealing.

I didn't say stealing couldn't happen in this lifestyle. What I did remark about, however, that the hostess of the party said that there seems to be an honor code among swingers.

[EvilMJ]

Stealing happens. However I think the OP could have been a little more polite in his post....how about a note stating which items have been missing since the party and would appreciate it if anyone who might have seen them could contact him. Then no one is accused of stealing and he wouldn't have been looked on poorly when they were found.

I know that things get taken all the time but I am also smart enough to know how you present yourself, the things you post are going to have repercussions and once something has been posted and read, you can't take it back.

[LFM2]

Originally Posted by EvilMJ

Stealing happens. However I think the OP could have been a little more polite in his post....how about a note stating which items have been missing since the party and would appreciate it if anyone who might have seen them could contact him. Then no one is accused of stealing and he wouldn't have been looked on poorly when they were found.

I know that things get taken all the time but I am also smart enough to know how you present yourself, the things you post are going to have repercussions and once something has been posted and read, you can't take it back.

I agree EvilMJ. That is what they're telling him now. Since this was a cross-breed party, I'm assuming he was a DOM and also because of his email addy. I'm not part of the BDSM party people, however, I've know some DOM's, and they are actually very patient men, but I'd hate to be in their wrath at the same time.

I do believe he over-reacted assuming that his things had been stolen. I was surprised at his outburst, because this OP'er (read: me) should have included in my original post that the cross-breed parties that are held here are small. Everyone knows everyone. This is why I believe, the members found his outburst so offensive, as did the people who responded to him that were at the party. He hasn't posted an apology to anyone yet on that forum. I'm bettin' he's not getting any Christmas cards from any of these friends, either.

[FloridaFlirt]

I'm curious: Did he apologize?

[cpl2doitwithu]

Originally Posted by LFM2

[B][I]TO THE PERSON WHOLE STOLE MY WATCH AND KEYS AT THE CROSS BREED PARTY LAST NIGHT:

Sorry to interrupt, but I have a quick question. What is a cross breed party? Haven't heard of one of those.

[LFM2]

Originally Posted by FloridaFlirt

I'm curious: Did he apologize?

I just checked, and if he did, he hasn't done it publicly

[LFM2]

Originally Posted by cpl2doitwithu

Sorry to interrupt, but I have a quick question. What is a cross breed party? Haven't heard of one of those.

Cross breed parties are for those in the swinging lifestyle as well as those in the BDSM lifestyle. It's more for those who are interested in both types of lifestyles.