Voyeurs, On or Off Premise?

[RW1F]

This might be a stupid question but you'll have to forgive me since neither of us have ever been to, or experienced a club. We don't have a clue about what to expect except for what you can read on the web which is where you all come in.....

My wife and I would like to explore our voyeuristic (not swinging) side. Is it possible to do this at a club without having singles or couples coming up to us all night long? The reason I ask is that I don't think either of us would be comfortable with having to turn down people coming up to us all night long and I don't want the experience to turn into a negative. We are both sexually stimulated by the thought of "live porn" but I don't think we'd be comfortable in a high pressure environment. I know that NO means NO at just about every club but I don't want to have to say NO all night long. Does that make sense? I guess what I'm asking is........

Can we go to a club and do our own thing? Watch and play with only the two of us, without having to say NO all night long? Thanks in advance for your responses...........

P.S. we are looking at some Vegas area clubs (Red Rooster, Green Door and Couples Oasis in particular) so anybody that has been to these clubs can offer further advice but I'd like to hear from all the experienced people no matter the club they've been to.
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[CoupleInLove]

Hi, Guys!

You've come to the right place. We are in Calif also. We followed some of the same pattern you are on right now. Adult films, fantasy talk, ..... a couple of years ago we were on a trip to Denver and I found an ad for a Goth club, Onyx. Sounded like an 'Eyes Wide Shut' atmosphere. Looking back, it was pretty tame and lame, but it was a step out of our comfort zone.

Last year we were going to Vegas, I got om the 'net and found Vegas.com to look up shows. Night life section brought up Green Door and Red Rooster. I printed out info on some of the expensive shows around town and info on the Rooster and Green door and gave them to the Mrs to read. I also asked some Vegas people on a personals service about the two clubs. Their opinion was Green Door had a reputation as a cover for hookers. I have not been there so I can't say first hand. Oasis does sound good, too.

We did contact the Rooster by e-mail and then by phone. We got a lot of questions answered as we paid our donation. We were given a tour and rules of etiquette when we arrived. We got to sit by ourselves and watch the dance floor. We got up and wandered the halls and watched through open doors. Many rooms have doors you can close if you want to be private.

Yes, it's an older crowd but not everyone is old. There are single guys around, but if they want to be there they had better behave. Security is very good there.

Some of the regulars are cliquish and you may have to get up and introduce yourselves rather than having to fight people off with a stick.

Lately we have been to Freedom acres in San Bernardino and we like it there, too. A different feel, younger crowd, A lot more people. We may try a bay area club later this year. Blondie's or Arena.

If you need more maybe you could PM us and we can connect on the phone.

[Jenanay70]

We have visited the Green Door in Vegas. The best night to go is Wednesday if you are a couple because it is couples night. They close off a whole section for couples only. There are sinlge men allowed downstairs that night, but all other nights there, everyone is free to go wherever they want. There were lots of couples having sex with just each other or watching. You are not alone in just wanting to watch. We had a great time there.

We have also been to a local couples only club here in CT. Liked this one better. The great things about clubs for us is we did not feel any pressure to do anything we didn't want to. Lucky for us, WE WANTED TO! I know you said you don't want to say "no" all night. Unfortunately for you, that might come with the territory. Most people assume that you are there to swing since you are in a club. Like you said, "no" means no, however. There may come a time where you may feel more comfortable of the thought of being more open to other people. This has always been a fantasy for the Mr. and me, and the clubs have helped us fulfill many of our shared fantasies.

Just our take on things.

[Botcpl]

We wish we had to say "no all night long." It would be much easier to find a four-way-match. We've been to FA a couple of times. We did the dance floor thing, that was quite a blast and then went to the back room by ourselves and had fun there too. We actually had quite a show. She wants me to get one of "those" swing things, but I don't know where I would put it. The kids do ask questions.

Most clubs, straight or swing, are a bit cliquish until you are around enough to get to know people. Unless you are such a hot couple that people are hitting on you all the time. If that is the case, what do you need a club for because people will be hitting on you as you do your everyday thing chores.

I believe most people (at FA) already know each other before they hook up and go to the back room. We liked the FA experience, but we feel it is a bit of a younger crowd (she's about to turn 50/ me 53) We like the club, but it is a bit of a drive. We would like to try something closer when we get the time. Right now life is getting in the way.

I say go and have fun. If it is too much for you, don't go back; it is only one night (at a time)

P

[mrs good times]

As a regular club attendee I have a couple of suggestions.

First, if you are approached tell the others of your intentions early in the meeting. It's rather annoying when you think a couple is interested and then they make the statement "we would love to watch you have sex".

Second, be sure you have permission to watch. Some people take this personal. For example we were in the play room one evening with about 5 other couples and a couple walked in, sat down, stayed fully clothed and watched. They were told to take their clothes off and participate or leave by several of the others in the room.

[RW1F]

Thanks for all of the replies and suggestions. I think that if we do anything it will be at the Rooster or Couples Oasis. I've noticed on these kinds of boards a lot of people ask questions about this or that and then never give any feedback about their experience. I'll try and tell our story when we return. Maybe the Mrs. will even feel like jumping in.
Thanks again.....

[yawanna]

I have to agree that generally the people attending clubs are cliqueish and you should have little or no worries about saying 'no' all night long, especially your first, second or third visit. Good clubs have friendly, personable owners and hosts, who -the good ones anyway - will welcome you and chat you up a bit. That is when you can share that you are there to watch only. They can make sure word gets around and/or steer you in the right directions.

Being in Canada, we don't have established legit on premise clubs yet, and our equivalent would be what we call house parties. These are much more sexual activity oriented and the good ones have a 'safe room' or area and playrooms in other parts of the building.

It has been my experience that voyeurs and exhibitionists tend to the clubs rather than house parties, as house parties carry an expectation of sexual activity by most if not all those attending.
I'm not sure if this is the same environment as your on premise clubs?

Looking forward to your posts after your adventures

[yawanna]

P.S. Others posting here have had the same concerns and a search on the topic may reap more information for you