How Much Swaping Really Goes On?

[dirtykids]

My husband and I have been to several clubs and we are a bit suprised by how much, Swinging (swaping) really goes on. We are considered a very attractive couple and personally, we don't look to trade partners but, we do enjoy performing and watching others. However, what we've noticed is that we would extimate the number of couples who choose to swap is very low say, 5%. Most couples choose to attend for the same reason, to be watch and watch.

This brings up two questions:
1) Are we right or wrong in our estimation of the no. of couples who swap? What would others estimation to be?

2) It's pretty obvious of why anyone would want to watch but, I have a time explaining the thrill of having someone watch us.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Dirtykids

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[Cafe10s]

Dirty Kids:

You should conduct a poll. Great question.:slam"

[fun_pairTX]

We assume you are speaking of on premise clubs. Our experience with on premise clubs here in Texas is that nearly 100% are there to swap. As a matter of fact, the only people not participating at the last club we attended was the staff.

[lcjtsd]

We have been to the Green Door here in Las Vegas twice and I have to admit to being a bit disappointed. Most people are indeed there, not to swap, but to watch or be watched. I would say that the 5% you state would be accurate.

Our next place to visit is Couples Oasis which is a private couples only club which sounds a bit more promising. Of course, I'm sure there are some who will be there only to watch and be watched. Everyone is looking for something different. But I feel the percentage of those who are looking to swap will be a bit higher than 5%.

[JustAskJulie]

I think it's going to depend a lot on what club you go to. Some clubs tend to lean more towards actual swapping, while others seem to attract more soft-swinging (exhibitionist/voyeur) type couples. Another factor is the ratio of newbies to experienced (and regulars to that club). If a club has more newbies then the chances are they are going to have less swapping. Same thing if there are more folks at the club who are regulars there and have gotten to know each other and feel comfortable together.




If you want to put a poll together regarding this topic, myself or one of the mods can merge it with this thread, if you'd like.

[dirtykids]

Yes, I was refering to On-Premisis clubs. Who knows why one club would be different but, in the Chicago area, the percentage who swap seems low. Now I know this may kick up the heels of some Chicago folks but, that's alright, its just an observation.

People go to Swing Clubs for different reasons and, those who attend are least we are on "the same page" of enjoying the sexual erotism these partys have. And, thanks on the motto of Swing Clubs, No-Means-No policy, does well for those who do not care to share.

This doen't mean we don't play, we certainly do our share and enjoy getting naked in front of a lot people we don't know and doing all kinds of sexual acts uninhibited. Then: get to go home after the weekend, knowing we've been naughty and its highly unlikly anyone we come into contact with in our daily lives will ever know what fun we've had. Thats the fun we have!

Dirtykids

[good times]

Wow, this sounds familiar as Mrs. and I were just discussing this topic after our last night out. We have also noticed that a large percentage of couples are at the club to watch but not participate. Of the ones that are their to participate a quite a few of those are looking for a bi female and the husband/ boyfriend just wants to watch. Sucks for us straight couples interested in swapping.

At the club we go to the majority of couples that go are probably interested in swapping, but we have found that if we aproach a couple that we both find attractive the odds are probably less than 1 in 5 that they will be interested in swapping for straight sex. We have even been aproached by a couple that said they found us attractive and wanted to know if we would be willing to have sex while they watched. I said I wasn't really in to that, I told them I was more of an audience participation kind of guy. When you factor in the fact of how difficult it is to find two couples who find each other mutually atractive or compatable to begin with, it really thins out the odds.

But every once in a while you beat the odds and find a compatable couple, so I guess that is what keeps you coming back.

R

[sensalicious]

We've been to this club 4 times last year. The numbers of couples and people participating varied widely depending on the night.

Its hard to tell, of course, given that there are several large group spaces and 10 or so private bedrooms, which may or may not have their curtains/doors open for viewing, but I'd say a third or half of total there are sexually active.

Course, as I write this I realize since we don't know the majority of people there, its pretty darn hard to tell who's with the partner they came with and who's with someone different.

Its not like a lightbulb goes off over their heads when swapping occurs!

Its a bit easier, though, when its more than three in the pussy pile.

facelick

dian

[VegasLee]

Your Milage may vary!

We have traveled for many years to conventions and clubs, all on premise in different states along with running a Lifestyles site so we get to talk to many people in the Lifestyle. Some of them newbies yet others been in it for over thirty years.

One thing is fact, there is not as many "swingers" at clubs or convention as there used to be yet there is ten times more people coming to both then their used to be.

Our home club here in Vegas normally has 300 plus people at it each saturday night. On most of those Saturday nights there will be about 15% to MAYBE 20% that play on a good night. Some nights the % is half that. Half the people at our home club are locals the balance is tourists.

The major convention here in Vegas each year we have also found that since there is 2500 to 3000 people at it that about 15% to 20% are also players. The people at convention come from all over the country/world.

We went to what was a great club in Florida, about 250 people there. It was a beautiful club but NO ONE was playing at all there on a Saturday night.

Many of us that have been in the Lifestyle many years have seen the same thing. The numbers of people "in" the lifestyle has grown greatly but a major portion of them do not swing. They all have their reasons for being in/around swingers and it is all good as far as we are concerned.

We tend to go to play parties since that is what we personally look for most of the time. Some locals here hold house parties or sometimes there is special parties at our home club that is geared toward the "players" in the crowd. When those parties are held there as been 200 to 250 people showing up and I would say that 90% to 95% of them are there playing.

[Alura]

Originally posted by JustAskJulie


If you want to put a poll together regarding this topic, myself or one of the mods can merge it with this thread, if you'd like.

I'd be interested in seeing such a poll, Julie.

Mr. Alura

[Sonja&Brett]

My wife and I have made the same observation at the club, Freedo Acres, we go to the most. In fact, we think that the term "swinging" is outdated. It's too retro. We think that it keeps people away who would really enjoy the freedom without the hassle that you get at a place like Freedom Acres. It was the "swing" connotation that took a lot of talking on my part to get my wife to go. But now my wife is often the one who suggests we go to the club. We do not swap partners but we love the club, the erotic atmosphere, and have great sex there. In fact, I'm not so sure that my wife wouldn't go along with some playing with another couple under the right conditions. But the fact is that people respect your space at Freedom Acres.

[J&T Indiana]

Originally posted by sensalicious
Club Oasis in Ft. Wayne...

We've been to this club 4 times last year. The numbers of couples and people participating varied widely depending on the night.

dian

Ft. Wayne? Never heard of it. We go to Club Utopia all the time...

Looks like we have a couple "locals" here on this thread. SW Michigan, we grew up there... and we go to Ft> Wayne about once a month. Going there this Friday as a matter of fact. Were there last friday as well

[sensalicious]

Club oaasis is the AA place.

Glad for the edit button.

And smart folks with an eye for detail.

Cheers!

dian

[Botcpl]

We have to agree with Sonja & Brett about FA We've only been two times and didn't play with anyone but each other, but it seemed that most people who went to "the back room" also walked in the front door together or greated each other like long lost friends. I think it might be the fear factor and people only want to play with people they already know. Maybe it has to do with how many new couples they bring in every week[ We will probably go back when we settle down here, but we are talking about finding something closer to home or more worth the drive.

P (& V)

[bear_n_bunny]

Seems to me there are a lot of variables involved here. First off, are these clubs on-premise or off-? I've yet to attend, or even heard of (until now) an on-premise club that did not have plenty of swapping going on, at least here in Texas.

After all, how many people are going to be willing to pony up the kind of money the average on-premise club charges for admission and then not at least consider playing. Or if you are not looking to swap, then you are not swingers to start with, but just a couple who gets off on exhibitionism.

If it is an off-premise club with or without the ubiquitous "back room(s)", it may appear there is less swapping going on simply because there is really no safe place to play.

Another variable is whether or not you fit into the group in terms of the preferred age and attractiveness level (i.e., are you Barbie and Ken clones or not). First on-premise deal I ever attended we struck out utterly for just that reason; most of the attendees were twenty-and thirtysomething beautiful people types. Hell, we didn't even extrude on most of those people's consciousness, at least until we got into the hot tub, and the half dozen or so pretty people who were already in it promptly got out and stayed out until we got the message and left, after which they all promptly piled back in.

Something else that may have a bearing is people's fear of catching something in the way of an STD, particularly if they don't know you.

Or maybe there's just something in the water up Indiana and Illinois way...

-- Bear