How do you keep your Identity Confidential

[zztx1]

Memberships in clubs often require names, etc. to join. In the past, one could trust this to remain confidential. But in this era of patriot acts, you could see authorities or others wanting names and other information. On one hand, clubs need to control who goes in, on the other, if raided, the names could get into the wrong hands. Is any one else scared of this scenerio or are we paraniod?

[fun_pairTX]

Don't sweat it, you are being overly concerned.

[SluttyWife]

We're a bit scared but try not to be paranoid about it as a whole. We try to collect minimal info on our club's
membership but realise an urgent need to take things abit further. Our advice is to ask your club to consider keeping their membership records securely stored under lock and key somewhere else entirely. Perhaps a trusted friend or relative's home or even at a storage facility in someone else's name?

We know one way for sure to avoid being a part of a swing club's "bust." And that is to *not* organize or attend on-premesis events no matter how tempting. Others of you might disagree with us :slam" and we can surely empathize with you and your position on this.

Hate to say it but we're all going to be a little vulnerable for awhile.

Slutty Wife

[bear_n_bunny]

Yeah, you are being paranoid, and for no good reason. Relax. Believe it or not, John Ashcroft and the DOJ/FBI/CIA/NSA/DOD/DAR-in-their-black-helicopters/etc/ad nauseam do not give a rat's ass whether or not you join a swingers club.

Now, if your al-Quida cell decides to hold a meeting after the party is over, THEN you can start sweating, but not until.

-- Bear

[bear_n_bunny]

Originally posted by SluttyWife
We're a bit scared but try not to be paranoid about it as a whole. We try to collect minimal info on our club's
membership but realise an urgent need to take things abit further. Our advice is to ask your club to consider keeping their membership records securely stored under lock and key somewhere else entirely. Perhaps a trusted friend or relative's home or even at a storage facility in someone else's name?

We know one way for sure to avoid being a part of a swing club's "bust." And that is to *not* organize or attend on-premesis events no matter how tempting. Others of you might disagree with us :slam" and we can surely empathize with you and your position on this.

Hate to say it but we're all going to be a little vulnerable for awhile.

Slutty Wife

You have GOT to be kidding. Is there some law or laws on the books in the state of Nevada that outlaws holding private parties? Or a limit on the number of people can can be in a house or other structure where sexual activity is taking place? Even if no money is changing hands for the sex, no alcoholic beverages are being sold, and nothing can be seen publicly?

I've heard that Nevada can be downright schizophrenic regarading it's laws governing sexual matters, but damn.

Even here in reactionary Texas, if you want to hold an on-premise party, as long as it's private, no liquor laws are violated, no money changes hands for sexual favors, nor any "public lewdness" laws or fire safety ordinances are broken, there is no legal reason you can't party down all you want and the cops don't care.

Indeed, around here at least, you'd have a lot more to worry about from the local news media getting wind of your party and camping out on your doorstep to catch some juicy footage for the ten o'clock news than from the local constabulary.

And as for the Feds, they REALLY don't give a shit, as they have far more important fish to fry, such as trying to prevent some Islamocommie terrorist assholes from nuking Chicago.

If you guys think you and your on-, off- or in-between premise parties constitute even a blip on the Fed's radar screen, all I can say is that you flatter yourselves unduly.

But what the hell. If some of you guys want to worry that John Ashcroft and his minions are going to kick your door down just any minute now to confiscate your on-premise party membership lists or what-have-you because the New York Times, NPR or PMSNBC told you so, then by all means wallow in it. It's no skin off my nose...

-- Bear

[SluttyWife]

We don't operate in Nevada. We did back in Texas and came out of it alive. LOL...Want to get to where we are at? Hire yourself an adult entertainment lawyer.

My six cents! ;-*

Slutty Wife

[Close Encounters]

Unless the club owner is a complete idiot your information is safe.

1958--NAACP vs. Alabama-Supreme Court rules that privacy of membership lists in an organization is part of the right to freedom of assembly and association.

[bear_n_bunny]

Originally posted by SluttyWife
We don't operate in Nevada. We did back in Texas and came out of it alive. LOL...Want to get to where we are at? Hire yourself an adult entertainment lawyer.

My six cents! ;-*

Slutty Wife

We are not running an on-premise club, so there's no need. However, the very first party I ever went to was at an on-premise setup, and I had a long talk with one of the two operators, and they did have a lawyer. And it was the lawyer who told them to collect the driver's license info, signed agreements and whatnot from those who attended the parties. According to this woman, their only legal issues involved liability and things of that sort. So long as things were structured as I described above (in terms of liquor laws, no money changing hands for sexual favors, etc.), there was no issue with local law enforcement, period.

As I also mentioned before, her biggest headache was with the local media. They held their parties every Saturday night, and at one point had to shut down for a month because one of the local TV stations had gotten wind of their operation (they were in a large mansion in a very upscale neighborhood) and kept a camera truck parked out front every Saturday night looking to tape the comings and going of the party attendees. But they had been tipped off somehow that the TV people were going to be there, and so waved everyone off and just sat tight for a month until the "sweeps" period was over and the TV assholes went away.

Now, if you are talking about operating something like an adult bookstore/arcade/movie theater, then yes, you would need an "adult entertainment lawyer", with all that that implies. But then in this case you are talking about something quite different than operating a private, on-premise club; a nontrivial difference.

And either way, the Feds still don't care...

-- Bear

[SluttyWife]

Thanks for your input. That sets are minds at ease some however Mike and I are media whores, LOL...so we might actually welcome an interview but never the undercover thing you just described.

No, I've never made it with a warrior woman. Hmmm...makes
me think of wild ways to be taken...

Love and licks ;-*

Slutty Wife

[BiloxiCouple]

And if you are not comfortable giving out your personal information, turn around and walk away.

[remox]

The act of "Swinging" is not illegal. The way that the "Swing Organization" operates may be.

Clubs only get raided for a few select reasons and usually that reason is a complaint from someone (irrate neighbor, dissatified patron, etc...) During the course of a raid scare tactics are common. The idea is to get someone to panic and divulge to the police additional information, preferably that of illegal activities. If there is nothing illegal going on, there is nothing the police can do other than scare you.

So make sure that your club operates legally, and has no tolerance for illegal activities. Do not rely on the club operator to provide you with information as to the legality of their establishment. Ignorance of the proper laws, codes and such is fairly prevalent and the downfall of most clubs. Do your homework and protect yourself.

If you aren't willing to do that, please stay home.