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Why we shouldn't open a club

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Old 05-21-2003, 04:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My wife and I are located in central Illinois. We are considering the idea of opening our own club. We visit a real nice club in Indiana but it is 3 hours away. So....the idea of our own.
Any thoughts??

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Old 05-21-2003, 04:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Your first bet would be to check out the laws in your area. There may be a reason that there are not any clubs closer. Then check out if there are enough swingers in your area to support a club. You may want to consider starting a group, as I have seen others do and eventually work your way up to a club. Most hold monthly events in local hotel ballrooms or bars. They usually reserve a floor in the hotel for the participants only. They charge a membership fee or an entry fee to cover the costs.
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Old 05-21-2003, 04:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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There isn't a good reason "why" you shouldn't open a club other than just be sure of your local laws and requirements for a business. Also be sure to have plenty of 'disposable' cash on hand that you don't mind tossing away.

For the life of me, I've yet to understand why club owners invest in this as they do and the only conclusion that I have come to is passion. I'm still trying to understand our $16,000 dollar project that sits in the garage. That being after the race car project for about the same amount.

We could really use some new windows here in the house.....

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Old 05-21-2003, 05:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Are you thinking of ON PREMISE or OFF PREMISE?
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My wife and I are located in central Illinois. We are considering the idea of opening our own club. We visit a real nice club in Indiana but it is 3 hours away. So....the idea of our own.
Any thoughts??

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The question you should ask yourself is not "Why we shouldn't open a club" but rather, Why should we open a club?

We'd be interested in seeing your list of reasons.
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Old 05-22-2003, 08:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Great question.....We are thinking on-premise. The reason why we are thinking at all is because there is no place with in 3 hours of us.

We host parties at our home but we just run out of room.

We enjoy everything this life style has to offer, not just the sex, but you must admit there are no better people than the ones you have met(maybe not all) but as a whole.

We currently own a business (unrelated) and know we could give people some place wonderful to enjoy their freedom and feel comfortable and safe.

Do we want to get rich from this??? HAHAHA I just don't see that happening, but I know we will have fun trying

My wife and I had just strated talking about it, we do have our attorney doing some prelim. checks on local laws etc...
This may never come to be...but I must tell you...it sure feels right.



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I think your reasons are sound, but you definately need to check with a lawyer before even considering it. Especially if you are thinking on premise.

Basically when you start looking at on-premise you get into a completely different set of laws than if you are strictly doing off-premise. The main ones that you will need to look at and work with a lawyer to avoid getting in trouble for are
pandering/prostitution.

Obviously if you are renting a place to have parties you will need to charge an entrance fee, and if sex is taking place on premise then it would be very easy for it to be construed as paying for sex.

If you are already throwing good size house parties then you probably have a good clue as to what you are getting yourself into, so the biggest thing you will need to overcome are the legal aspects.
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Starting a club is like starting any other business. Make sure you have enough investment capitol and more than anything make sure you have enough time. You stated that you have an existing business.
Can you afford to spend the same amount of time that starting that business took, and still run your existing business?
Also, consider that if you want to play at a your house when you are having a party, it probably isn't a big deal. However, if throwing the party is your business and from it you draw some sort of salary/pay, then playing at your club may be legally considered prostitution.
Good luck to you. I know that going to my club was much more fun before I bought it. Because, even if I have the night off, I don't really.
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Great question.....We are thinking on-premise. The reason why we are thinking at all is because there is no place with in 3 hours of us.

We host parties at our home but we just run out of room.

Since you would not be able to enjoy an on-premise club, (taking money from someone and then having sex with them is called prostitution), your best bet would be to find someone else to open a club for you to visit.
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Since you would not be able to enjoy an on-premise club, (taking money from someone and then having sex with them is called prostitution), your best bet would be to find someone else to open a club for you to visit.
Hmmm, I have a question.

If one operates an off-premise club (which I assume that money changes hands, I've never been to one), what is the legal responsibility of the host/owner etc. If they leave the premise with someone of the club, to say a motel room, is that loosely considered prostitution of sorts? Or does the liabilty end when you deposit the receipts, turn out the lights and close the door?

IMO, I would think that once you leave the premises that you are back to your own life and not one such as an owner.
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You have it right. What I do and with whom is of no concern to anyone but the three to eighty people involved away from my business.
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You have it right. What I do and with whom is of no concern to anyone but the three to eighty people involved away from my business.
I apologize Close Encounters, I just now saw your response to this. That is pretty much what I thought. It only sounds reasonable to me. But EIGHTY people!!! Ya'll must be a real fun couple!
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