"Beautiful People Only!" Swing Clubs/Groups

[lovers]

Right or wrong, there seems to be a movement towards this sort of establishment. This is the second such club that we've heard of in the last little while. On one hand we're bothered by it because the day may come where we would not be invited to such a party. On the other hand, we've been to many parties where we made a bee-line to the exit because we were totally unattracted to anyone there which makes this sort of club appealing seeing as we likely fit their requirements.

Maybe there should be clubs where people who are average looking who weigh 220 + lbs are the only ones allowed to attend. That would even things up don't you think?

[Elusive BiFem]

Originally posted by lovers
Right or wrong, there seems to be a movement towards this sort of establishment. This is the second such club that we've heard of in the last little while. On one hand we're bothered by it because the day may come where we would not be invited to such a party. On the other hand, we've been to many parties where we made a bee-line to the exit because we were totally unattracted to anyone there which makes this sort of club appealing seeing as we likely fit their requirements.

Maybe there should be clubs where people who are average looking who weigh 220 + lbs are the only ones allowed to attend. That would even things up don't you think?

Well, I suppose that is one way to look at it, but seems to me one would miss out on meeting a lot of wonderful people that just don't fit the criteria. - EBF

[yawanna]

Since when has swinging been about meeting requirements of age, size and 'beauty'?

NASCA advocates that in swinging, people be judged upon by their own merits (EOLO = equal opportunity lifestyle organization).
Supposedly swinging is about choice and respect. So you go to a club and you find no one there you are attracted to. Many of us have had that same experience. Most posters here say you move on. You try another club. But, diversity remains. Or should it?

Is a party for the 'beautiful people' only the next wave? Does it have value?

Shall we take it a step further and say 'whites only', or 'blacks only', or 'uncut only', or over 50 only' etc etc etc.

Are we headed toward segregation?

[jen]

Not that I'm a club going sort, if I were, this would be of such pressure...what if they say -- no... you're not good enough -- who are they to say I'm not good enough, what if they say --- sure sure c'mon in -- and in is just as uncomfortable as out... what if you’re in and your partner is out…yikes, what if your partner is in and you’re out…ouch…

Nope too much pressure.

I’ll just be me.


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[Nymph an' Satyr]

Was it Mark Twain who said that he wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would accept him? Maybe it was H.L. Menkin.....

I don't know, beautiful people are alright I guess, but when they "know" that they are beautuful- I think it becomes rather unsufferable.

Somewhat egotistical, yes?

[lovers]

"Was it Mark Twain who said that he wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would accept him?"

It was Twain.

The point I was trying to make was that I think that the people who run a club looking for "perfect" people might think twice about it if a club who was only interested in "average" people not only existed, but thrived. You have to believe that there's a lot more "average" people out there than "perfect" people.

By the way, I am aware of a couple of "black only" clubs in the States. I could care less that they exist because I wouldn't frequent them anyway (and I'm black). I say let them do what they want. It's a free socitey we live in and we'll let the masses decide this issue.

[fun_pairTX]

If by some fluke they let us in I would be sure to get us ejected in nothing flat. LOL I have this tendency to calls em as I sees em, and as soon as they started competing for mirror space I would call em all on it. EBF calls this my "pragmatism". Actually you could probably find me at the out door for the rejects, scoping out all the ladies with real curves.

[Elusive BiFem]

You know...I just went out for a walk with the heathens (my dogs for those of you that don't know...) and was really giving this subject some serious thought. As I walked, I stopped and talked to quite a few people - some I like a bunch, others a little, some I hardly know just now but hope to become friends with, and even a few that I could care less about seeing again. All different. But they make up my world. I share this world with them. A few were quite attractive, most were only average. But all were unique. And I kept wondering about this post....

Quite frankly, when I first read it, I didn't think much of it and kind of responded sarcastically. Then, lovers came on with his idea of segregating people "who are average and weigh 220+ pounds" into a club of their own...I suppose so the "beautiful people" would not have to contend with them? I'm not certain.

I'm average, but I'm not 220+ pounds. So where do I get to go. I'm quickly approaching 54, so now we need a club for those "almost" 54, but average? Those that are younger than 35 but "just" average? When you start this type of thing, where do you really draw the line? And what kind of people are we if we want to segregate others based solely on physical attributes and we are not willing or able to look beyond that? I'll grant you...part of swinging is purely physical attraction, but we're all attracted to different types. What one person may call attractive I would not, necessarily. Bill Clinton is an example. So many find him attractive. I found him to be repugnant and that having nothing to do with his behavior. I just don't like the way he looks. Period.

The more I thought about it the more seriously pissed off I got about the whole idea of this "beautiful people" thing.

And then..it finally came to me. All of this emphasis on looks is like a costume party. Just a cover-up. You never really know who is under that costume until it comes off, but by damn, it will. Eventually. And you might be real shocked when it does. Those costumes don't mean jack in the final analysis.

So...for those that would even consider membership at a "beautiful people" club, enjoy yourselves - knowing that it's really nothing more than a costume party. You also need to go with full knowledge that someday, somewhere, somebody is going thing you are not "attractive" enough.

I think I'd have far more fun with those that don't need a costume in the first place because I like people first. - EBF

[yawanna]

"Was it Mark Twain who said that he wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would accept him?"

It was actually Groucho Marx

[yawanna]

EBF you are eloquent and articulate as always.

I, too, have had to rethink what swinging is after attending the different clubs and reading all the different takes on it.

If it really is people who enjoy sex with others I consider it a form of blashpemy let alone a form of cashing in on something by club owners and event organizers to say beautiful people only and they need to apply. No one can yet define 'attracted to' and the reasons for it..... and I always thought and hoped that swinging was a way to that... exploring sexuality and no one gets hurt.,

This segregation shit burns my butt because it's segregation....seriously.. we could avenue off into uncut only, asian only, bbw only, over 50 only, under 30 only, and an and on and on. And this isn't private small functions.. this is being promoted by the swinger clubs on their websites. At what point is this a swinger community? At what point do we have choice, and options, and diversity?

[Alura]

Originally posted by yawanna
EBF you are eloquent and articulate as always.

I, too, have had to rethink what swinging is after attending the different clubs and reading all the different takes on it.

And this isn't private small functions.. this is being promoted by the swinger clubs on their websites. At what point is this a swinger community? At what point do we have choice, and options, and diversity?

Absolutely, Yawanna! We can hit them in the pocketbooks by not "applying." If others want to go to such a club, I can only say, "Y'all have fun, y'heah?"

Mr. Alura

[Alura]

Originally posted by Elusive BiFem
Well, Mr. Alura...I guess if Mrs. Alura decides to go alone, you and I could catch a movie or something. Shuffleboard anyone?

I don't think I'll be invited either. Just can't imagine why...

-EBF

OK, yawanna...serious answer? No, I don't think I would want to attend even if I did meet their "criteria." That kind of stuff makes me uncomfortable - I don't like being measured. - EBF

I checked with Mrs. Alura, EBF. She'd rather go with us.

Mr. Alura

[Alura]

Originally posted by Elusive BiFem


I think I'd have far more fun with those that don't need a costume in the first place because I like people first. - EBF

EBF, you are dynamite! Or as Jen might say, "You Rock!"

Truth is, I'd pick EBF over any of those "beautiful people." She's beautiful inside. And since I've met her, let me assure y'all that she ain't bad to look at either.

Mr. Alura

[Alura]

Originally posted by yawanna
It was actually Groucho Marx

I almost wrote that, Yawanna! But I wasn't sure of myself! Thank you!

Mr. Alura

[wcplnsac]

We are a big beautiful couple with a down home country charm and have tried to get into a couple of clubs that cater to the beautiful people only. Needless to say we were denied entrance even though I personally explained that we were beautiful in our own way and the door person agreed but said he would lose his job if he let us in so I wrote a very nasty letter to the owner and even though I received no reply I still feel better for having written them. I hope that everybody that gets turned away will write the owners and maybe, just maybe they will eventually get the idea. Maybe it is a dream but why not try?

Ted