Nashville clubs go OFF-Premise

[TNT]

Oh, now I'm pissed. Why, oh, why can't people just leave me alone. I don't go to their churches and screw on the altar, they should stay away from my religion. I truly despise those that find it necessary to legislate my morality.

My solution is going to ultimately be the Church of Ted. Services to be held every Saturday night, clothing optional. Dancing, sacramental scotch and the laying on of hands, all protected by religious freedom. I feel the need to tend my flock already. Altar girls in Wicked temptations finest,confession booths with beds, ahhh, who's ready to be blessed?

Ted
(who's life calling is cult leader)

[LikeMinds321]

These sort of issues are not up my alley, so anything I'm going to say is only wild guesses.

First thought, this has little, if anything, to do with how the Mayor and those who run the city feel about swinging or anything having to do with sex. I think city managers/planners have two priorities: keeping votes coming their way and making money for the city. One big way to keep money moving into a city is through real estate development and new business and those real estate guys have power, money, and persuasion.

Could the downtown area - where Menages is located - be in the process of renewal or maybe there is talk of it? I know our city has been working on renewal in the older parts of town for a few years with great success. They take long-abandoned buildings and turn them into posh condos and people gobble them up. Lots of new shops and swanky restuarants too. And all these developers want the best of the best sitting next to them. A swingers club or any business that may "bring down" the sellability of an area being developed is a target for harrassing laws.

Maybe developers could be looking ahead and trying to put laws in place that could shut Menages down. If Menages can't remain profitable under new laws, it closes and sells for less than it would now as an on-premise club. Developers then get the property they want.

LM

[TNT]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

Maybe developers could be looking ahead and trying to put laws in place that could shut Menages down. If Menages can't remain profitable under new laws, it closes and sells for less than it would now as an on-premise club. Developers then get the property they want.

LM

You have a point there. As an off-premise, I don't believe Menage's can keep the doors open in its current location. Too many square feet to pay for, hell half the club will be useless in it's current configuration and it's a historical building so I'm sure there would be restraints on any major modifications.

Ted

[knb2004]

Originally Posted by Chicup

Vegas nailed it.

We had a club in Illinois which fought and won a bogus fire code charge, and the DA said they will keep bringing up these kind of charges and raiding the club, putting peoples names in the paper until it shuts down.

Pretty much, the law be damned.

If they actually had the stones to say that out loud, I would think they'd win a malicious prosecution case in about a nanosecond, not to mention some kind of injunction. I would think it would be safer to have that particular case heard by a judge, I'd be more concerned about some hater juror ignoring the law than a judge.

[JustAskJulie]

Originally Posted by TNT

Oh, now I'm pissed. Why, oh, why can't people just leave me alone. I don't go to their churches and screw on the altar, they should stay away from my religion. I truly despise those that find it necessary to legislate my morality.

My solution is going to ultimately be the Church of Ted. Services to be held every Saturday night, clothing optional. Dancing, sacramental scotch and the laying on of hands, all protected by religious freedom. I feel the need to tend my flock already. Altar girls in Wicked temptations finest,confession booths with beds, ahhh, who's ready to be blessed?

Ted
(who's life calling is cult leader)

Ya know, this is pretty much exactly what Pet and I were discussing earlier tonight.... on both counts... the idea that we aren't out trying to shut down their churches... and that perhaps we should start a church where swinging is part of the religion... then they wouldn't have a ground to stand on.

Originally Posted by TNT

You have a point there. As an off-premise, I don't believe Menage's can keep the doors open in its current location. Too many square feet to pay for, hell half the club will be useless in it's current configuration and it's a historical building so I'm sure there would be restraints on any major modifications.
Ted

We were wondering this too... if they will leave the upstairs open and just have extra staff to "police" the area... or will they totally close off those areas.

[TNT]

Originally Posted by JustAskJulie

Ya know, this is pretty much exactly what Pet and I were discussing earlier tonight.... on both counts... the idea that we aren't out trying to shut down their churches... and that perhaps we should start a church where swinging is part of the religion... then they wouldn't have a ground to stand on.




We were wondering this too... if they will leave the upstairs open and just have extra staff to "police" the area... or will they totally close off those areas.

My first disciples, leaders in the flock

Ted

[JustAskJulie]

Originally Posted by TNT

My first disciples, leaders in the flock

Ted

How about Co-Founders!

[TNT]

i suppose we can alternate wearing the robes and worshiping. Yep, sounds like fun. And our church will be all about fun.

Ted

[tribbles]

Originally Posted by TNT

i suppose we can alternate wearing the robes and worshiping. Yep, sounds like fun. And our church will be all about fun.

Ted

members tithe?

[JustAskJulie]

Originally Posted by TNT

i suppose we can alternate wearing the robes and worshiping. Yep, sounds like fun. And our church will be all about fun.

Ted

Somehow I'm guessing that we can get lots of followers

[Alura]

I'm just a hick Okie, and I don't know much about the swing club business, but my guess is that the change at Menages is driven by one thing: This is an election year. Politicians are looking for free ink in the press. After November, look for the situation to go back to normal.

Years ago I was a sales rep for a motorcycle leather clothing company. One of my customers was an adult boutique. They owned several stores, including an arcade where soft porn (legal in Oklahoma) was shown.

Just before an election, the manager told me that an agreement had been struck between the owner and the District Attorney. On the coming Saturday night, the police would raid one of their arcades and shut it down. The owner wanted to close the arcade anyway because it had become unprofitable. In return, the D.A. would leave them alone for five years.

Sure as hell, Sunday Morning's Tulsa World carried a front-page article about the raid with a picture of a smiling D.A. He won the election.

And I thought his job was to fight crime...

Mr. Alura

[two4youinswva]

Originally Posted by TNT

My solution is going to ultimately be the Church of Ted. Services to be held every Saturday night, clothing optional. Dancing, sacramental scotch and the laying on of hands, all protected by religious freedom. I feel the need to tend my flock already. Altar girls in Wicked temptations finest,confession booths with beds, ahhh, who's ready to be blessed?

Ya know, I've been a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (Pastafarian) for a couple years now.
But, your church sounds intriguing, and as a potential convert, I would like to receive your newsletter.


(FSM link for the uninitiated.)

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by two4youinswva

Ya know, I've been a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (Pastafarian) for a couple years now.
But, your church sounds intriguing, and as a potential convert, I would like to receive your newsletter.


(FSM link for the uninitiated.)

I too have been touched by his noodley appendage but I'm sort of agnostic about marinara sauce.

[JustAskJulie]

It appears that the issues have blown over and the lawyers have decided that it's once again ok for Menages to be an on-premise club.

I still don't know what went down exactly, but I still say I'd rather see a club make a change (even for a short time) to cover their asses and mine, than to have them do nothing and risk both.