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Old 07-27-2007, 01:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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As many of you know, Menages was our first Club experience. As such, it was a soul searching situation for me. I have a question, both for those there and other clubbers as well. (So this may belong in another thread?)

If you saw a woman with a single breast in a Swingers Club would you:
1. Avoid her?
2. Feel she shouldn't be there?
3. Recoil?
4. Be disgusted?
5. Feel uncomfortable?
6. Shrug and go on?
7. Kiss the wound?
8. ...???...

Probably there are at least three answers in each of you for this query. One, your knee jerk reaction. Two, the knee jerk adjusted to be the answer of the person that you are/want to be. and Three, the answer, for me, because you may know me.

Please know that I am comfortable with my body and make no apologies for it's condition. But, that said, I feel that it is part of my job, as a participant in such a situation to present the "body beautiful" or at least the body whole, so as to make everyone else comfortable.

In an extreme, I can't imagine being asked to leave a club, but I do believe it would be within the rights of management to ask me to leave. After all, the purpose of the place is to be happy and carefree and escape reality for a while.

I'm looking forward to your insights. Thanks, in advance.
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Laura ~

I didn't have a moment's hesitation when coming up with my answer. Nor did Mr LM.

We would feel very comfortable seeing a woman who had one (or both) breasts removed enjoying herself at a club.

I can't imagine a club ever excluding a woman because she doesn't have a breast. And if I knew of a club that would, I wouldn't go there.

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Old 07-27-2007, 11:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Laura ~

I didn't have a moment's hesitation when coming up with my answer. Nor did Mr LM.

We would feel very comfortable seeing a woman who had one (or both) breasts removed enjoying herself at a club.

I can't imagine a club ever excluding a woman because she doesn't have a breast. And if I knew of a club that would, I wouldn't go there.

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DITTO! Ok, I'll admit, because it's you I'd want to walk up and kiss both of them (the wound and the remaining breast). I would not have that reaction to just any woman but I know you. Were it a woman I didn't know, while I would not have the instant desire to kiss her breasts I would think that it was great that she was there and having fun. Honestly, I'd rather see a woman with only one breast than a woman with a really bad boob job because she was so vain she felt she needed something other than what she was blessed with.
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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No hesitation on my answer either....it wouldn't bother me a bit.

I do know quite a few women who have had to have mastectomies and my first question is always "How are you doing"? In fact, one of the first couples that Ted and I played with (which we met in a club) the lady had had a partial mastectomy and she got lots of kisses on her scar


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Here's the way I look at it Laura. Any woman who has the courage and self confidence to go to a club, knowing that SOMEBODY will be turned off or even grossed out about it, is a woman I would love to meet. What an inspiration she would be because none of us are perfect right? If that woman can get over her fear of rejection, I can get over my own issues of rejection. Unless I'm some freak of nature, I don't believe men in general are as shallow as we are labeled. I could care less if a woman has three breasts or none at all. It's not the breast's I'm interested in. If I was in a club and I heard of or saw a person being given the boot because of their weight, scars, big nose or missing parts I would right behind them and out the door.

Show yourself with pride Laura because you have earned it and the respect I have for someone in your situation is immense.
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I can't imagine it bothering anyone, with your captivating personality it wouldn't surprise me if hardly anyone even noticed. The fact is, how sexy a woman is has as much, or more, to do with her attitude as it does her physical attributes. Personally, having met you, I enjoyed your positive upbeat attitude.

Having been a club host before I can say that, were I the host, and someone somehow took offense of the fact that a woman had only one breast, or no breasts for that matter, I would remind them where the door was and invite them to use it.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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There is nothing sexier than a person that is comfortable in there own skin.

I can imagine myself taking a second look to see if what I saw was true but by no means would I find it offensive. I tend to be more of the curious type and would more than likely approach you and say something along the lines of "you rock" or send you a thumbs up across the room.

Having met you doesn't taint my answer either. In our many years at clubs we have seen many things like wheel chairs and leg braces. These things don't bother me because they are a part who the person is. Like someone else said a woman showing off a bad boob job or a poorly performed tummy tuck is a different story.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I would imagine that it would catch me off guard. Because it's simply something that I wouldn't have seen before. One time I saw a woman with a little nub where her tailbone is, a tail if you would. It certainly caught the eye of most people, but after the initial "hrm, never saw that before," it wasn't a big deal. I don't think that it's even that uncommon. But at first, it was somewhat shocking (maybe too strong of a word.) It's not that it's disgusting or something, it's just something you don't see very often.

So I think that would be my reaction. A simple, hrm, never saw that before. After that it would completely depend on how the woman carried herself. If she was confident, wore a smile, and was attractive, then by all means it wouldn't mean a thing to me. Just as likely to be a play partner as anyone else.

That's my honest answer.

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Thoug I do not know you, I'd be inclined to want to kiss the scar. I would not do that uninvited; but, I would want to.

I like breast, a lot! I love women. That's why I walk in the breast cancer three-day event sponsored by Komen for the Cure.

You, or any breast cancer surviver, can hang where I am any time.
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It sure wouldn't bother either of us. We have already played with a woman who lost both breasts and have enjoyed watching another with one, play and enjoy herself. She said she traded one breast for her life.....sounds like she made a good trade.

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Yes, at first I would be startled. It's an uncommon sight and would make me curious. I'd think she was very brave for revealing herself. That would make me want to get to know her. I'd smile at her and make her feel welcome. Maybe chat her up a bit and play if there was chemistry.

In short, I'd treat her like any other women at the club...

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Laura ~

I didn't have a moment's hesitation when coming up with my answer. Nor did Mr LM.

We would feel very comfortable seeing a woman who had one (or both) breasts removed enjoying herself at a club.

I can't imagine a club ever excluding a woman because she doesn't have a breast. And if I knew of a club that would, I wouldn't go there.

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I am trying to put myself in such a situation, being a clubber myself. I appologize because I know this may sound rought, but I'll be raw and honest here, because I believe this would be more valuable than attempting to be nice.

I believe my first reactions could come from my guts, a shocking one. And it has nothing to do with personal tastes nor aesthetics, but with something more basic, the reminder of our body fragility, the sudden awareness that something like this, having a body part removed (moreover if a visible part, and even more if culturally pegged with what attracts people to you), can happen to any of us at any time of our lives.

But, it would be precicelly this first reaction what would lead me to admire the attitude of a woman being there, up to have fun and enjoy herself and her body, with all the circumstances.

Now, actually I didn't had this very experience, however I can recall from other experiences at the club, because the club scenario had shown to me a facet of myself I wasn't aware of, and I recongize myself in this hypotetical scenarios from my current experience and this finding about myself.

You know, at a club there are people of every shape and form. There are those women extremally carefull about the aesthetics, those fitting the mainstream concept for a "hot woman", and there are women with the brands of life, like skin stretches from being moms, the traces of age, and also those that you'd think "why they dare to come and expose themselves next to the hotties?".

So, you may go after the hottie, and after you had your dose of experience with them, you realize that being hottie isn't what does it to you, but the attitude, the energy, the sexual desire, the willingness to share themselves with you, to get pleased and to please. You end up valuating this features.

And it latelly happens to me that the sole fact of "daring to expose yourself" to be compared next to a hottie becomes a proof for the attitude and willingness I am looking for. I find myself attracted by women I wouldn't even notice, nor desire, if bumping against them in the street.

So, it is very likely that, if we were bumbing in the street, and if I were noticing the lack of a breast, I wouln't feel attracted to you, nor would fantasize of having sex with you.

But if two days later we bump at the club, and (this is crucial) you were not making a big deal of the whole breast thing, and I become aware of all of this, this would be enough to bring my attention to you, as much as the supposedly hottie could do.

Now, as a last word, should I were attending a club and finding out the owners didn't allowed someone there because of this or whatever aesthetical prejucide, I would let them know, I would move on to another club, and I would drag with me as many of my friends as I can.
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Honestly? It would certainly catch my attention. My first thought would be certainly not be to recoil in horror or disgust, but rather think to myself: This is a woman with a story to tell. I think I'd be filled with admiration and a touch of humility, seeing someone who loves herself enough to have the confidence to show others how beautiful she knows she is. In my own mind, I would see the wound as a battle scar and know that the woman who bore it was a force to be reckoned with.

Now that said, I know that I'm a socially awkward kind of person. This just means that, while I'd be thinking all this on the inside, on the outside I wouldn't know HOW to act around her. I wouldn't want to give her the idea that I was in any way offended by her or otherwise negatively impacted by her presence there...because I'm not. I'm just uncomfortable with myself.
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I think you've touched on the most important reason Laura started this thread, Intuition. It's certainly not about any lack of self-confidence on her part but a sincere concern that her unibreasted appearance might make someone else uncomfortable.

Laura is the most dedicated hostess I've ever known. Her major concern is always her guests and their comfort.

Oh, and did I ever mention that she is simply wonderful?


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