On premise clubs-are the patrons less attractive?

[two4youinswva]

Originally Posted by BodyScape02

In-so-far as club reviews go... remember... they are commenting on ONE night... hardly a valid sampling of what a club is...

Excellent point!

Originally Posted by VegasLee

We used to have a nice couple in Vegas that ran "prescreened" parties and a club. They never had more then ten couples ever show up to a party that "fit" what the requirments where to get in. I lost some faith when they said I could come to their parties. Seems that the group that fit the requirments DID NOT PLAY. Dressed great, looked nice but all stood around and looked at each other. Big fashion show. The couple tried and tried to cater to the "pretty people" crowd and ended up closing down and not doing parties anymore. They did try hard for about four years.

I think I remember seeing a website for that group. I also remember thinking "It'll never work, too limited". I didn't even consider that they would just stand around and look at each other!

[jcbicouple]

The club we go to has a wide varity of people. We tell people if they want to know what the people at the club tend to look like: Go to the grocery store, and look around (Sometimes it's fun to imagine they're naked...he he): Those are the types of people you will see. Some are heavy some are thin some are "beautiful people" some are just "plain jane".
We wouldn't go to a club that prescreened for attractiveness. Looks are a matter of opinion. What and who you are attracted to is a personal choice and opinion. We've met several very beautiful people that we didn't play with for one reason or another.
How many of those "Beautiful people" at the prescreened clubs don't play because if they get naked people will see that life has chosen to give them stretch marks on their butt? or someone had a C section and has a scar from it? A mastectomy (spelling?), or some other "life happening" that has left it's mark? Those things aren't things you should be ashamed of.
We prefer a club where everyone is comfortable getting naked and running about, imperfections and all!

[good times]

At the clubs we go to the clientel varies so much from night to night that it would be impossible to make generalizations about it. The average age varies from mid 30's on some nights to upper 40's earlier 50's on others. Some nights the people will be mostly fit and trim and other nights their will be mostly overweight people. I just wish I knew how to tell what it was going to be like ahead of time. I kind of think it is this way because we are in a tourist town. On an average night about half the people at the club will be from out of town and about a third of the people will be visiting the club for the first time.

[De and Ci]

Originally Posted by jcbicouple

How many of those "Beautiful people" at the prescreened clubs don't play because if they get naked people will see that life has chosen to give them stretch marks on their butt? or someone had a C section and has a scar from it?

Hmm, Thats a damn good point! At a super exclusive event, I would imagine there would be a substantial amount of subtle competition in the "looks" dept.
To the point that many of the people would be too intimidated to get "nekkid"

Again, we aren't super picky or anything, but even some nights at the off premise clubs we attend, there were no couples that we would have been interested in playing with.

[Sweet_Candy]

For us the question is "Is it as good as what we have?". We are fit and attractive but not Ken and Barbie. The on-premise club mentioned in Houston does run towards the large and because of this we don't go. We're are not attracted to unfit people. We do go to an off-premise club that is considered "for the beautiful people" and yes it does have a lot of soft-swap couples/married lezbians. We dicovered this after a couple of visits. But it's a great place to meet dates. If it doesn't work out we can still enjoy ourselves. We have friends in the lifestyle who run the gamut of size and shapes. As for sex partners, we do draw the line. Why take a hit for the team(lifestyle team)? Or as we've heard it described "Why settle for less when life is to short?"

[Floorman56]

I have wondered what a couple who have been going to a screened club for a couple of years feel when they go to the club one night and are told "sorry you can't come in"

[Pepper & Drew]

We went to a "premium" event (off premises) with friends of ours in NYC and we were really, REALLY not impressed. We had to pre-register, no one over 40, had to submit pics, etc, etc. Once there, we engaged in conversations with mind-numbingly-boring people, I had the side of my face licked by some creepy guy, had to fight to get in the bathroom because people were either fucking (glad somebody was getting some) or doing drugs in there, and apparently the big thing to do is take a bunch of pictures of kissing so that they could put them on their profiles...whatever. We'd take our socials where there's a mix and we can chose who we think are the hot couples.

We're young, we're attractive, we take care of ourselves and tend to look for couples who we feel we're on the same level with us, but attractiveness isn't only measured (for us) by looks. There are eye candy couples that we've passed on because frankly, we just didn't like them as people. I think it's hit-or-miss, no matter what it is you're looking for. A month or two ago there was a party where it seemed like everyone in the room was our kind of couple, but other parties have been as dry as the Sahara. I think it's the case whether you're a BBW, young and hot, old and infirm, etc.

Pepper

[flassh]

How sad for a person to only see the world and people under the influence of what pop-culture and media dictate as being sexually appealing. For us, we love to make fantasies come true, but those fantasy should be our own and not what we are "told" by others to be the best. If perfect bodies and beautiful faces is the fantasy, go for it. But personally, a great sense of humor or erotic imagination goes alot further than how firm and perky one's body is. I think it is a chicken/egg story. I mean that the mind and body are together and one can't have one without the other. So keeping in shape and eating well are part and parcel with living a normal life. If one is unwilling to get up off the couch to exercise they have made a choice that will no doubt create a less than healthy outlook and physical appearance. Nevertheless, as my 44 y.o. body will attest, I am not the hardbody of yesteryear and I don't expect it to garner the same looks from the opposite sex that it used too. Nor would I want to knowing how much better lovers can be that are not self-consumed with their looks and perfection.
I think the word is narcism, and it is a disease that damages one's total being.

[VegasLee]

Something I have been thinking about lately.

I have noticed that when I was younger, I had older women wanting to play. Now that I am "more experienced", (older) I am getting more youngers ladies wanting to play.

Not a real problem but I perfer the older women.

Only thing that stays the same is that everything always changed.

[northindycpl]

Originally Posted by De and Ci

Again, we aren't super picky or anything, but even some nights at the off premise clubs we attend, there were no couples that we would have been interested in playing with.

I had been staying away from this thread intentionally, as it really did cause me to be a bit irritated. I think those that defended the (assumed) less beautiful people did a good job. To a degree, I can also see the point made originally by De and Ci.

This quote stuck out at me the most, however. We have been lots of times where there were not people that we were interested in playing with, but not based on looks. I really wonder how many people are judging me and Mr. Indy solely on that point. I mean, are they making a decision to even say hello to us, based on how we look?

I guess we are just different. We go to the clubs to have a good time. We meet people, and have a good time. We flirt and dance and have a good time. I strut my stuff and have a good time.

We never go to a club with the expectation to play with anyone. We go to meet people and see where things might go. We try and talk to everyone, we mingle with everyone and everyone we meet runs the line from Super-model spectacular looks to the lunch lady. To me, for the most part, they are all beautiful.

I am pretty sure we are a hot couple ourselves!

[De and Ci]

Originally Posted by northindycpl

We have been lots of times where there were not people that we were interested in playing with, but not based on looks. I really wonder how many people are judging me and Mr. Indy solely on that point.

Gee, I wonder how many people are judging us on our looks? I really don't care. I think we all do that. We have friends in the lifestyle who we don't find sexually attractive and consequently we don't swing with them however we enjoy their company. While we are pretty much hwp, we aren't supermodels nor are we shallow and prissy. NorthIndy, I saw your profile on SLS, and we played with a couple and the woman was about your size, and like you appear to be, she was well proportioned. Also, she was pretty damn hot in bed (liked it rough). However, we would be uncomfortable going to an intimate on-premise club or party house where everyone was skanky-whether obese or looking like a shriveled crack whore. It seems that off-premise clubs are larger and easier to get lost in the crowd if nobody suits our fancy. That is our perception and we may be wrong.

NorthIndy, I'm sure if we stuck you in a crowd of women looking like this: http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/106975.jpg
You would know right of the bat these were gals you ain't going down on without conscientiously "judging" them.

[DBL D]

Originally Posted by De and Ci

...NorthIndy, I saw your profile on SLS, and we played with a couple and the woman was about your size, and like you appear to be, she was well proportioned. Also, she was pretty damn hot in bed (liked it rough)...

It WAS NIC! What were you thinking?

Originally Posted by De and Ci

...It seems that off-premise clubs are larger and easier to get lost in the crowd if nobody suits our fancy. That is our perception and we may be wrong.)...

We once went to an off-premise dance that wasn't really large enough to get lost in the crowd and didn't get hit on by ANYONE! (And those of you who know us know that we are in decent shape.) There were lots of gals who were hot looking but were with short fat guys. There were also lots of couples that just weren't our type. This was at a dance where we had felt they were going to generally be like our body type. (Even on SLS we get hit on by people who apparently don't know what HWP means.)

This was strange and it may be a while before we go back.

Maybe all of America has gotten fat and we're the ones on the outside.

Male D

[Sweet_Candy]

Originally Posted by DBL D

Maybe all of America has gotten fat and we're the ones on the outside.

Male D

Well if you believe the numbers given by the experts or better yet look around there are a lot of fat people. More than we remember. I (he) am celebrating the loss of 90 lbs. since last November through portion control and exercise. What's funny is I wasn't bothered with my gain until Candy mentioned I was not sexually attractive to her. She's stayed constant at 110 lbs. except with the birth of our two kids since we've been married. So for us it took my partner's honesty to wake me up to what I wouldn't see in the mirror that I was Fat. We are not Ken and Barbie, but we are in shape and that's what we prefer.

[northindycpl]

Maybe the clubs in Texas are different then the ones here.

Every club has a skank factor. It is just going to. Personally, I like for a club to have a mixed crowd.

I am incredibly proportioned and we take very good care of ourselves, and we do expect the same from those we choose to play with. I would just hate to go to a club where people were ruled out based on one persons view of beauty.

Also, the only off-premise club I know of here is skank city... so maybe it is just different in Indiana.

[DBL D]

I am not saying we only want a club that is HWP, or all bi girls or anything. I like the mix too but it was just surprising to us that no one asked us to dance, fat or skinny; and we just happened to notice the demographic had changed a bit.

Male D