"Couples-ism" at clubs?

[Nova]

This one startled me.
We're pretty much only interested in pursuing FMF, so we were looking for a club where we (couple) could meet a single woman. I was looking at one club in particular, but everything talked about couples meeting couples.
So I emailed the site owner, and asked if it was a place where a couple could meet a single woman. The answer was, in its entirety, "we don't do that here."

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but the reply seems almost judgemental; I've also noticed that some other swingers events don't seem to cater to forming threesomes, but expect only couples.

Compare that to another local club where they proudly proclaim that they are open to "couples and single women" (in fact single women get in free).

I'm just curious if anyone else has feelings about people looking for threesomes being "not really swingers" (and therefore not belonging to their community)?

Nova

[good times]

Their are some clubs that are couples only and many people prefer them. Most clubs though do allow single women to attend the club and as you said they are often encouraged to attend at a reduced rate or free of charge. the reason for this is that they are pretty rare. Let's face it, a single woman usuallly doesn't have any trouble meeting as many men as she wants at a regular singles bar. In my experiance the only women that seem to show up at the clubs alone are women looking for FF activity only, I have yet to see very many women come to the club looking for FMF. Does it ever happen that a single woman goes to a club looking for FMF? Probably, but it is extremely rare, rare enough in fact, that I wouldn't consider a club a very practical way of finding what you are looking for. I would suggest trying the internet add sights like www.swinglifestyle.com, as I have seen some single women advertising for couples there.

[fun_pairTX]

Not to be discouraging, but FMF is about the least common form of sex that will happen at a club. We have two single gals that we play with, but it took us two years to find them. If you want to have fun, find a couple with a bi female.

[fun_pairTX]

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[Alura]

Y'know, Nova, I don't think we knew swinging was anything other than Couple-to-Couple before we came to this board. We were particularly surprised that single men are involved in the lifestyle.

As FunPairTX said, single women interested in playing with a couple are so rare that they've been nicknamed "The Elusive Bi-Female." There are a few who post here on this board, but very few.

This board is, however, an excellent place to make friends, first by posting on the board, then perhaps attending Meet-Ups! and eventually meeting the girl of your fantasies. Perhaps. Please note that although Meet Ups are an excellent way to get to know board members personally and form friendships, Meet Ups! are not intended to be Hook Ups! Don't go to one expecting anything other than conversation.

We don't do internet ads, so we can't advise you on SwingLifeStyle and similar internet introduction services.

Why are you only interested in FMF? It would be much easier to meet a couple with a bi-wife who would agree to a "girls only" meeting, perhaps with the guys watching even.

Alura

[Tom & Bonnie]

As a club owner I wuld echo the sentiments of all the previous posters. In addition, from a club owners perspective, I would offer the following for the short response you received from the club you asked.

In some areas, clubs try and avoid the reverse discrimination effect of offering free or reduced admission for single females while also prohibiting single males from attending. We do allow single females at Player's and only allow single men to attend as a guest of a member couple. Even then they must stay with their hosts and not wander the club.

Hope this helps.

[Nova]

Originally Posted by Alura

Why are you only interested in FMF? It would be much easier to meet a couple with a bi-wife who would agree to a "girls only" meeting, perhaps with the guys watching even.

Alura

To be fair, we've done them all.

Her first bi experience was with another wife in a girls-only. She had fun, but said she wished she had me around to "finish her off" afterwards. Who am I to complain?

The next time was the same wife and Mrs. Nova putting on a show for me and the other husband. This time I did get to finish her off.

And the next/last three times were FMF's with a female friend. (Note to those trying to set up girl/girl action - this friend went from "Okay, I might kiss her, but that's it" on the phone to "turn around so I can eat your pussy" in bed in five hours flat) facelick

I'll be honest - we both had the best time in the FMF's. It's what we both want to do again if we get the chance. Hey, she said it's *her* preference; again, who am I to argue?

Nova

[Alternatives]

We have to agree with what Tom & Bonnie said. In our club we don't advertise that single women are welcome, but if someone asks us we'll probably tell them it's ok. Why such secrecy? Discrimination suits.

Gender is protected by federal law. You can't say yes to women and then single out men for exclusion. Yes, it's a private club, but who wants the publicity or expense of a lawsuit.

Many clubs (like Players and Alternatives) have thousands or tens of thousands of dollars wrapped up in assets, leasehold improvements, and leases. We can't afford to be picketed, or sued, or harrassed because we are personally invested in the club.

The clubs who have the once a month meet and greet, or hotel socials, or house partys can pretty much do what they want because in terms of real assets they have nothing to lose.

Another reason a club owner (with assets) may not allow single women in his/her club is prostitution. First off let me say I'm fine with prostitution as a profession, but not in my club. Some clubs that let "dancers" in to help draw a crowd also have a prostitution problem. A couple meets up with a fine looking single woman, take her up to their room, and all of a sudden she's talking about $300 to make their dreams come true. Not a rampant problem, but it does exist.

These are just our opinions.