Do you use Condoms????

[BiloxiCouple]

Seen alot of different threads on here about who uses condoms and who doesn't. Reality is the test.

This poll is completely private. (We don't know who you are!!!) So please vote!!!

We've been to quite a few different types of lifestyle parties and wanted to know who uses condoms and who doesn't or somwhere in between!!!!

[hfire269]

We always use a condom with other people. When its just my hubby and I, we dont. I know that not all birth control is 100% effective but Im on Norplant. Ive had it for 2 1/2yrs and havent had a problem.. knock on wood...:-)

hfire269(female half)

[lovers]

Another option might have been "Do not use a condom with some partners, but do with others."

Just my $0.02 worth.

[angihay]

Always use a comdom. Only 1 time we didn't and knew the person very well and had the results to prove there was no diseases ect. You never know what's out there theses days so We nver take the chance of bringing anything home.

[JustAskJulie]

I think the third option was misleading (sometimes - upon request). It leads me to believe that the sometimes is either
a) only upon request or
b) they only do it sometimes when requested (in other words not every time it's requested).

A more general, leaving it at "sometimes" may have been a more encompassing answer (maybe). Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it...lol.

[lovers]

What we were trying to get at is this: There are some people out there who generally use condoms except with a select partner(s).

For example, if we know the sexual history of our partners and/or there is no way that someone is accidentally going to get knocked up, we'll go bareback. Otherwise, we use condoms.

[NorCal Nites]

Just my 2 cents here... I know this is a touchy subject to nearly all swingers.

I play safe with people that I don't KNOW at all.

Now, If you are going to have someone's pussy or cock in your mouth WITHOUT a condom or dental dam, then you are exposing yourself JUST AS MUCH to STDs.

The only difference, if wrapping your willy is that she is less likely to become pregnant (a big IF the condom does not break). Either way, the sensitive tissues in your mouth are a matched pair to the sensitive tissues within the vaginal opening.

Either way, if you're performing orally without protection, you may as well not use protection "down there" either unless there's the pregnancy issue.

Heck, most in this lifestyle have had tubal ligations, hysterectomies, or vasectomies... So if you're welcoming bodily fluids into your body orally (regardless of swallowing or taking the load after pre-cum), what makes you think you're protecting yourself from STDs?

Most people simply don't think about the consequences of oral sex. Oral is great, but if you're doing it without protection, and then having protected sex, you're just fooling yourself.

[Lorrie]

Originally posted by NorCal Nites
Most people simply don't think about the consequences of oral sex. Oral is great, but if you're doing it without protection, and then having protected sex, you're just fooling yourself.

Good post.

I know one woman who used to swing, but mostly were into group sex/gangbangs who wasn't fooling herself.

Her name is Catherine Millet. She wrote her autobigraphy where she said one day when she was young, a friend sent her a letter informing her that he had the clap and said everyone in their "circle" probably has it too. They all did.

Ms. Millet said from her book, "The clap had been my baptism; for many years after, I lived in mortal fear of that scissoring pain, even though it struck me as being nothng more than a distinguishing sign, the shared fate of those who fuck a lot."

She knew very well the consequences of practicing unsafe sex, and even embraced STDs as some sort of badge of honor for sexually liberated people.

I think stats aren't accurate about the likelihood of getting an STD by engaging in unprotected oral sex because most people would never admit it. How many people have ever admitted to getting an STD, even online?

I appreciate Catherine for being so open and honest with herself.

[Alura]

Originally posted by NorCal Nites


I play safe with people that I don't KNOW at all.

We don't have sex with people we don't know.

Now, If you are going to have someone's pussy or cock in your mouth WITHOUT a condom or dental dam, then you are exposing yourself JUST AS MUCH to STDs.

Either way, if you're performing orally without protection, you may as well not use protection "down there" either unless there's the pregnancy issue.

Most people simply don't think about the consequences of oral sex. Oral is great, but if you're doing it without protection, and then having protected sex, you're just fooling yourself.

Now, I'm no medical practicioner, but I understand there is a huge difference. There are some very strong chemicals, mostly acids, in the mouth and stomach that few "germs" can survive. That's why we get colds and the flu, not from kissing, but from shaking hands and then picking our noses or rubbing our eyes. I believe the AIDS virus, in particular, is quite fragile and dies instantly in the presence of saliva. That might explain why lesbians, as a group, have the lowest instance of AIDS infections.

Such protective chemicals don't exist in the vagina and, particularly, the rectum, where small tears caused by intercourse (for which the organ is not adapted) give easy access to the bloodstream for the virus.

Let me repeat that I am not sure of the accuracy of my remarks. Perhaps, Nightgoddess, Janet, or EBF can enlighten us more.

Mr. Alura

[yawanna]

. I believe the AIDS virus, in particular, is quite fragile and dies instantly in the presence of saliva.

It dies when it's airborne or in limbo. It has to be direct immediate exchange of bodily fluids with no exposure to air or an immediate receptacle. thus..the tearing of vaginal or anal tissues, or.... sores, bleeding, cuts in the mouth. IE: no flossing prior.

It has to penetrate skin tissue and get into the bloodstream ASAP to infect. Any interruption kills it.

[Alura]

Originally posted by yawanna


It has to penetrate skin tissue and get into the bloodstream ASAP to infect. Any interruption kills it.

Yes, I understand that, Yawanna. My question has to do with immersing the virus in acid.

Mr. Alura

[hmr]

Mr. Alura,

Maybe this will help to answer your question. Kissing someone who is HIV-positive or who has AIDS. There's no evidence that the virus is transmitted through kissing. Although HIV is sometimes found in the saliva of people with the virus, it occurs in low concentrations. In addition, natural inhibitory substances in saliva help prevent transmission of the virus. It is from the Mayo Clinic. Hope it helps.

mrs hmr

[TomF_22033]

I put always use a condom. But there is an exception and that's when I'm in a LTR. When a regular partner there are times that I may not use one.

[Alura]

Originally posted by hmr
Mr. Alura,

Maybe this will help to answer your question. Kissing someone who is HIV-positive or who has AIDS. There's no evidence that the virus is transmitted through kissing. Although HIV is sometimes found in the saliva of people with the virus, it occurs in low concentrations. In addition, natural inhibitory substances in saliva help prevent transmission of the virus. It is from the Mayo Clinic. Hope it helps.

mrs hmr

Thanks, Mrs. hmr!

It's as I thought. I think I'll still avoid kissing anyone with AIDS, though.

Mr. Alura

[NorCal Nites]

Originally posted by hmr
There's no evidence that the virus is transmitted through kissing. Although HIV is sometimes found in the saliva of people with the virus, it occurs in low concentrations.

Yes, true... no evidence of it occurring, however... it can take HOW LONG to ever show up? And HOW MANY people have you been with since then that MAY or MAY NOT carry the virus?

It's one of those things that you may not want to think of, but also, it wasn't the mouth passing the virus that I was referring to... it was the fact that the membranes of the mouth are the same as the vagina, so that male or female ejaculate can infect you that way, as well... not necessarily from the mouth of the giver TO the receiver, but the other way around.

Also, these are just single studies that ATTEMPT to prove, yet never have had an actual answer, due to the fact that HIV can take so long to appear. Many clinics, hospitals, and learning facilities such as Stanford, Davis, Mayo, and others have all attempted to prove the transmssion theory, but have not successfully done so to date.

Word to the wise... especially in this lifestyle; Play SAFE with those you're not sure about... Play CAREFUL with those you think you're sure about.