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Throat Cancer via Oral Sex?

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Old 10-15-2008, 07:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Good morning everyone! I was up early this morning as we had family leaving to head back home and after she left I was watching Good Morning America and heard this story of a young lady who is 38 years old who thought she had a normal sore throat. However, come to find out it was stage 2 cancer on her tonsils. You ask how she got the cancer? Well according to the article, she contracted the HPV virus through oral sex which the virus then created the cancer.

I have attached the link for you all to read the story and what medical experts have to say about this new discovery and I am curious to know what you think of this? Knowing that this is possible now to get an HPV orally, does that make you rethink of your practices during sex to perform oral sex for the fear of contracting an HPV in the throat?

I told MrVan that is kind of a scary thought. Because as we all know there is no way for a man to know whether or not he has an HPV so woman like myself who love to give oral, may be putting themselves at risk for cancer of the throat. And the same for men who may be with woman who may have an HPV and not know that she is carrying this. It makes me a little concerned now that this could actually be possible. I would have never thought this possible but apparently it now is.

So thoughts please! Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

ABC News: The Oral Sex Cancer Connection

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Old 10-15-2008, 01:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yea, Mrs. GT saw this story this morning too.

I think it is important to keep in mind though that this theory is based on only one study of about 350 people, about 25% of which had HPV show up in their tumors. Personally, while I think it is alarming enough to warrant more study, I think it is a little soon to make conclusions or for all of us to become orally celibate. I have also noticed that since this was released, some are now calling for boys to get the HPV vaccine as well as girls. Again I think it is a little early for that.

Frankly, I think this is one of those times that we will have to wait and see. If it goes like most other std related things do now days, it will be blown way out of proportion before long, in the scramble to get funding to research it.
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I wonder who funded the study. I also wonder if the pharmaceutical company who is marketing the vaccine to girls has some role in this study popping up. Could they be trying to open the market to boys?

Fear is a great motivator to get people to buy.

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I wonder who funded the study. I also wonder if the pharmaceutical company who is marketing the vaccine to girls has some role in this study popping up. Could they be trying to open the market to boys?

Fear is a great motivator to get people to buy.

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I wonder who funded the study. I also wonder if the pharmaceutical company who is marketing the vaccine to girls has some role in this study popping up. Could they be trying to open the market to boys?

Fear is a great motivator to get people to buy.

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When I was watching the show, one of the things that they did say was that they have not only created the gardisil shot for the girls, but have now created one that they are working on for boys. They then went on to say that it may come down once they have done more research that it may be necessary to create a vaccine like the gardisil to help with it being carried orally.

I agree as I wonder how much of this is all $$, or if there truely are ways that this could happen. I would have never thought of an HPV to spread via Oral but after hearing this it makes you wonder. Then add to that, let's just add the scare factor that they created with the story of "there is no evidence to prove at this time but they are wondering if this can be spread through saliva".

I just thought it was an interesting story and thought I would share. I was hoping to see how everyone else was thinking about the story.

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Thank you for sharing this I don't watch much t.v. but Mrs.fun saw this as well. We are skeptical but open minded to follow any research.
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Well I did watch good morning america this morning as well, and I felt it was alittle early to say, it means more research, it was alittle alarm that this may be possible but, as I listen I felt there was not enough research for this to even be on good morning america, will just have to wait and see, alittle unbelievable
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The question I have is "does this chance of getting the HPV orally have more to do with the general population than the swinging community". It is known that drug addicts and those people who are more inclined to be promiscuious are more likely to get all kinds of diseases. I dont consider the swinging community to be promiscuious. Sex among the lifestyle is much more controlled then what one might find in the bar scene in any city in America. I look at such reports with some caution.
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Good morning everyone! I was up early this morning as we had family leaving to head back home and after she left I was watching Good Morning America and heard this story of a young lady who is 38 years old who thought she had a normal sore throat. However, come to find out it was stage 2 cancer on her tonsils. You ask how she got the cancer? Well according to the article, she contracted the HPV virus through oral sex which the virus then created the cancer.MrsVan
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Fear is a great motivator to get people to buy.
Exactly, I have said this many times before around here, but look at the actual studies on the effectiveness of condoms at preventing the spread of the std's we would most likely encounter in the lifestyle (HSV and HPV specifically). Now days, people will say they practice "safe sex", meaning they use condoms, when in reality they are at best either practicing minutely safer sex, or if they actually know the facts, are in denial to make the risk they are taking not seem so bad in their own mind. This is mostly the result of the propaganda put out by folks seeking research money for std's, especially AIDS research. And the researchers and condom makers have capitalized and promoted this fear, transforming a very small niche condom industry into a huge business.

This issue is one that could easily be blown out of proportion. But if one looks at it rationally, it doesn't seem to be that big of a problem. First of all, this was a very small study, so small in fact that it really doesn't tell us anything. Even at that, less than 25% of the people with oral cancer in the study had evidence of HPV. Now I can't help but note the obvious, in my lifetime I have only known four people who had oral cancer. So, even if this study turned out to be correct, I might have met 1 person in my 50 year life who may have had oral cancer as a result of contracting HPV orally. Since, in contrast, I have known half dozen people who have died in motorcycle accidents, and if one believes the statistics on HPV, it can be argued that more people have had oral sex with someone with HPV than ride bikes, it seems obvious to me that my chances of having this happen to me are pretty low. So, I'll take my chances and consider this an acceptable risk, unless further legitimate research shows that this is a much more serious problem than it now appears to be.
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A 60 yr old guy jumped from a plane near here and fell...parachute opened but not quite right...hard landing...yeah, he died.

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The question I have is "does this chance of getting the HPV orally have more to do with the general population than the swinging community". It is known that drug addicts and those people who are more inclined to be promiscuious are more likely to get all kinds of diseases. I dont consider the swinging community to be promiscuious. Sex among the lifestyle is much more controlled then what one might find in the bar scene in any city in America. I look at such reports with some caution.

It is not intended to be geared towards the swinging community because as we all know there are people in the real world that have sex and many have more than one partner. Bringing it up here was basically just to see what everyone else may think of this as with swinging we all have more than one sexual partner and although you may think you know those you play with in the clubs, etc. does not mean that they are clean. Yes, with the LS you are taking a risk because it is a hobby and is something that we enjoy to do. However, we all know that there are risks for HPV's in the normal sexual method but was suprised that this would be possible orally. Which is why I brought this up to the board.

Yes as we have stated it is a small number that it has began. I am just curious as to where this research will take us if it does.

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Since, in contrast, I have known half dozen people who have died in motorcycle accidents, and if one believes the statistics on HPV, it can be argued that more people have had oral sex with someone with HPV than ride bikes, it seems obvious to me that my chances of having this happen to me are pretty low.
I think that you could take this further and show how exponentially riskier it would be to have oral sex while riding on the motorcycle. And I'm willing to bet that condoms would have absolutely no effect in reducing that risk.

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