d,d free

[chugen]

I have been resurcing for some time now and my wife knows i have been ready.She finally has ask a question. what about diesease? I told her protection but Ithink that is her only hang up. I never hide anything from her and always told her she is in an open relationship.At least she is starting to ask Questions.she is in the med field so i can understand about the diesease Question. we have had an exp. on time it envolving a hot tub and friends. no swap but sex in the same tub together. gust biding my time waiting for herto decide whats next.

[BiloxiCouple]

Jump in the water is fine.

[fun4Ds]

Welcome To the Swingers Board

If your talking about anything in a relationship, your probably in a good relationship !

Its when you have nothing to talk about things seem dull.

Sure, we talk about std's, but not so much that it ruins the idea. We have talked about many things that could or could not happen. STD's do happen so far so good for us.

Its just like we have a couple that we are interested in now. We feel as safe as we need to with them, to move forward. We understand the risks. We feel the risks are very low/ minimal with them. Low enough to talk about the possibilities of having a good time. Actually... a great time.

Keep talking, if STD's are in the conversation have a look into how you feel. Cover the things or issues as needed. Now is the time.

As for us, we don't look at pictures of the train wreck before we board the train.. Ya know

[celtic239]

My Mrs recently made a similar statement concerning "disease". The way I approached this problem was to state the following, that we would go at her pace, just go to a club and explore our comfortability with absolutely no pressure on her to do anything let alone anyone. I followed that up with the statement that most swingers are committed couples that have been together for quite some time and that the threat of contracting STD's is much greater among singles that have no history with each other than couples that have a history with each other and by extension the same would apply to a "play" couple.

[highlander]

You might find that just getting a really good, comprehensive set of STD tests and doing so regularly will put her at ease a bit. The unknown is scary. The odds that you have anything other than HSV are pretty small-and for most folks, HSV is far from the end of the world.

[sweet_tna]

There are risks, no doubts about it. The more partners you have, the higher your risks for contracting STDs. Tests, condoms, and being selective about partners may help lower the risks, but they are not eliminated.

It's great that you and your wife are talking about these concerns. Communication is key in swinging, and hopefully, you'll be able to reach a consensus on what risks you're willing to accept.

There are many people on the board who've swung for years and never had so much as a cold. We hope to be among them some day (we've been at it for less than a year).

Best of luck to ya'll,

=)

[highlander]

Originally Posted by sweet_tna

There are risks, no doubts about it. The more partners you have, the higher your risks for contracting STDs. Tests, condoms, and being selective about partners may help lower the risks, but they are not eliminated.

Actually, there are factors that are more important than the number of partners you have. Namely the profile of the population in which you are choosing your sex partners, the profile of the partners in that population you choose-and your overall frequency of partners.

This is a popular article on the mathematics that go on here. There would possibly be less overall levels of
some STDS if the portion of the population than have have few sex partners were to have more(and those that have the very largest numbers a bit less).

Swingers that swap partners with other stable couples are at worse a moderate risk population--compared to high risk populations like IV drug users, and residents of specific zip codes. There are quite a few swingers that limit their activities to 5-10 times per year, exchange test results, use condoms--and exclusively swap with other stable couples where 90+% of their sex solely with each other. That is a VERY different risk profile than say a gay stud in San Francisco that has sex with hundreds of guys in a year, a successful drug dealer that trades drugs for sex on a regular basis or a pimp with a large harem-or a corporate CEO that has sex with hundreds of employees in a year.

Porn stars are an example of a population with LOTS of sex partners that have a lower incidence of STD's than the general population--and a far from universal tendency to use condoms. In the porn industry, actors are expected to get regularly tested and share results with other actors. Those actors that have chronic STD's are often limited to acting with others that have a similar STD status. The big one where that is the case is HSV(Herpes).

Personally I wish Porn Films would start posting a public service announcement on what really goes on to make the "Porn Star Experience" relatively safe and sane.