For those who dont use condoms

[slevin]

I took a few weeks of spare time and looked through the secondary research you find in places like the CDC and most other sex health sites. I noted where they referenced other research to look for the primary research on the topic then sought out those primary sources. I was shocked to find that many of the assertions drawn from the primary research were not actually confirmed by the primary research. This was all a couple of years ago and I did it purely to inform myself and make my own decisions on the subject. I've posted a few links to some of that in the past, but 'good times' has posted far more than I have on the subject. Everything he has posted I've found to be correct in my own research.

So, I don't have a nice easy link to show you that shows the transmission rates. Based on what I see on your links though, none of them say that oral sex has higher transmission incidence than anal or vaginal sex. They just indicate that it is possible to transmit STDs via oral sex. My understanding is that the likelihood of transmitting an STD via oral sex is lower than the likelihood of transmitting it via anal or vaginal sex. It's still possible though and is therefore a risk.

This is an interesting table for you though; it shows the various types of sexual activities and the types of STDs that can be transmitted

SFCC :: STD Basics : STD Risks Chart

[appliancesex]

Originally Posted by slevin

I took a few weeks of spare time and looked through the secondary research you find in places like the CDC and most other sex health sites. I noted where they referenced other research to look for the primary research on the topic then sought out those primary sources. I was shocked to find that many of the assertions drawn from the primary research were not actually confirmed by the primary research. This was all a couple of years ago and I did it purely to inform myself and make my own decisions on the subject. I've posted a few links to some of that in the past, but 'good times' has posted far more than I have on the subject. Everything he has posted I've found to be correct in my own research.

So, I don't have a nice easy link to show you that shows the transmission rates. Based on what I see on your links though, none of them say that oral sex has higher transmission incidence than anal or vaginal sex. They just indicate that it is possible to transmit STDs via oral sex. My understanding is that the likelihood of transmitting an STD via oral sex is lower than the likelihood of transmitting it via anal or vaginal sex. It's still possible though and is therefore a risk.

This is an interesting table for you though; it shows the various types of sexual activities and the types of STDs that can be transmitted

SFCC :: STD Basics : STD Risks Chart

i think that chart does very well. all this seems to fall under the heading of doomed if you do, doomed if you don't. lord knows what the real statistics are, since what i showed you doesn't really amount to anything more than "we think this will prove that it's riskier."

that said, for us at least, that if condoms have a higher chance of protecting people from whatever, then we are at a higher risk of getting something since we won't use them while orally satisfying someone.

i think the only thing that one can do is use caution and experience. if something looks or smells fishy (sorry), then proceed with caution. that goes for using condoms or not!

[Lascivious L&L]

Sometimes it amazes me how poorly some scientists understand psychology. In that panel discussion about the risks of HIV transmission via oral, they really glide over how they can be sure of the self reporting of risk activities in such studies. To be sure of oral transmission they have to be certain that only oral sex was performed. How they can be confidant of that is beyond me.

Sex is the one thing people lie most about, are most ignorant about, and most private about. To not understand the psychological pressure many people feel against admitting to anal sex means ascribing risk to oral that may well belong to anal.

Also, being clear whether ejaculation has occured is not easy being the receptive party. If you've never sucked a cock till it came, you'd have no idea that sometimes you can't tell if the person ejacultated merely by feeling the ejaculation in your mouth. The quantity is not much, the taste is not powerful, and there is a lot of saliva there, so it can and does get lost in the heat of the moment.

[Pussylicker4u]

I have used condoms in the past but I prefer bareback. My wife prefers bareback also and she loves to have cum inside her. I find that these days I just simply get turned off and go limp every time I try to put on a condom so for me condom usage is a definite no no. As far as std's go condoms aren't 100 percent effective. Not to mention my viewpoint on barebacking is that it takes two to play and if your going to bareback you have to know your risks and be willing to accept those risks. Besides we weren't put on this planet with a rubber on our peckers so why do it any other way than bare.

[Emmywammy]

I've always required a full panel test less than a month old with their real name along with their ID (Seriously) before any activity. Having a rubber barrier between sexual contact makes the experience seem superficial.

Plus, I have a thing for cum. Sex with a man wearing a condom is extremely anticlimactic.

[mikeswinger56]

My wife and I swing with str8 males only. Most of which we do not meet online .Some from Club Wicked ,Most from other cities and almost always on a trip or vacation. So I will say this if it is a once or twice thing condoms for sure. If it involves someone we meet with often it does evolve into a bareback situation. At this point we have never done a cream pie . However we are having 2 of our favorite camera friendly gentlemen coming down for the 5th Saturday in a row. As things have evolved to bareback we do a lot of double vag. We both would like her to feel two loads shooting in her at once .And she wants me in deep right after .
Should we do it ?

[bbarnsworth]

Originally Posted by mikeswinger56

As things have evolved to bareback we do a lot of double vag. We both would like her to feel two loads shooting in her at once .And she wants me in deep right after .
Should we do it ?

That's a question that only you and your wife can answer. There certainly are risks in going bareback, including disease and pregnancy. How you decide what your comfort level is is entirely up to the two of you. We can't decide that for you.

Just be careful.

[mikeswinger56]

We've talked about it for a while. I brought it up. This is the most sexually supercharged we have ever been . We share alot of the same fantasies . We established likes and dislikes early. When the right secumstances have come up she has always played along, even let me put up a pic of her for our profile. That was taken after our amazing m/mfm on Saturday ,I find her the sexiest woman in the world. It goes nice with our fave position ,her up on pillows with her head up . Her getting penetrated deep missionary and me laying kinda sideways on the pillows while she moans with my cock in her mouth and we look at each other as her eyes gloss over . So she said "give the word" . It would be hot watching her toes curl getting a load. We'll see tomorrow. A definate maybe.

[mde 4764]

We decided the risk were minimal and always played bareback. We never had any issues from it. We both dislike condoms. There is just to much loss of sensation with condoms and pleasure is what swinging is all about.

[toronto two]

hi there,on our last encounter with a male in a mfm i remember hearing her in the bathroom "cant believe how much cum i had inside me" priceless!!!!!

[BiloxiCouple]

Don't like them............that's it.

[BigNikki]

Originally Posted by foozballnow

Last, how did going bareback change your experiences in the lifestyle

Big Nikki here --

Despite our anything-goes sex life, oddly enough we don't go bareback in the lifestyle. But we're just about to start conceiving our first child and once I'm caught, it will be nine months of delightful barebacking for me, for the first time.

I'm looking forward to it -- but also wondering (as quoted above) how the experience might change our feelings about my being bareback.

Any comments, experiences, predictions of where our emotions might take us?

-- Big Nikki & John.

[funcoupledayton]

Originally Posted by BigNikki

Big Nikki here --

Despite our anything-goes sex life, oddly enough we don't go bareback in the lifestyle. But we're just about to start conceiving our first child and once I'm caught, it will be nine months of delightful barebacking for me, for the first time.

I'm looking forward to it -- but also wondering (as quoted above) how the experience might change our feelings about my being bareback.

Any comments, experiences, predictions of where our emotions might take us?

-- Big Nikki & John.

I assume when you say playing bareback you mean with partners other than your significant other. Playing bareback while pregnant is not a good idea. Contracting herpes and exposing the baby at delivery can be deadly. Congenital syphilis and worrying about your baby becoming hiv positive is not too cool either. Personally, I wouldn't swing at all while pregnant. The risk just isn't worth it.

[bbarnsworth]

Originally Posted by funcoupledayton

I assume when you say playing bareback you mean with partners other than your significant other. Playing bareback while pregnant is not a good idea. Contracting herpes and exposing the baby at delivery can be deadly. Congenital syphilis and worrying about your baby becoming hiv positive is not too cool either. Personally, I wouldn't swing at all while pregnant. The risk just isn't worth it.

Bingo.

Others can chime in here, but what funcoupledayton said above is spot on accurate. There are serious risks here to the baby. Please, don't.

[Pussylicker4u]

As far as barebacking goes there has always been a big debate regarding safety vs sensuality. However I think going for whs at feels good and natural is always better. My feelings are condoms take away from the true natural feeling of sex as its just not the same. Not to mention its been proven that a condom will protect against pregnancy and other std's however it doesn't protect a person from hiv. My take on the issue why swing at all or play with anyone for that matter if you are not aware of your risks involved. There are risks in everything we do in life and I sure as hell am willing to take them because nothing beats the feel of bareback sex so I'll take my chances. I am a bi male and my wife is straight as a nail and regardless of how we play we never use condoms and we always make sure our potential partners are okay with that before having sex. I enjoy my wife getting cum deep in her or on her and I enjoy it too as there's nothing better than seeing my wife quiver with delight as she takes a warm milky load. But thats just us as its not for everyone.