For those who dont use condoms

[Formybubu]

We are both fixed and we both have reactions to Latex. So we go Bareback. Also if we hook up with another couple and no mention of Condoms during talk we assume we are going bareback with them. If it comes up in the room we have a code to make sure all is fair in bed(it is amazing how the guy knows he has to and tries to not use one) it is a simple YES or NO. If give a yes that means must use if I give a no all is good. If gives a yes then I know one must be used and if she gives a no I ask her and if she says yes then I say yes and we usually walk out on that couple because if they are like that they are not worth having (cheating is cheating)

[rpu3]

Originally Posted by personal416

Nothings a sure thing... I know we'd prefer bareback if/when we're with like minded adults that want are seeking trust/"exclusivity". ....kinda like focusing on open-minded vanilla friends that are brought into the lifestyle.

Make sense? Or are we just kidding ourselves?

It certainly makes sense and at the same time, we could both be kidding ourselves. Sigh.

[jama42guns]

This has always been a tough topic for the wife... Ever since we met in collage she has loved to play bareback. We were sooooo lucky because for the first few weeks together we got carried away often and went without, choosing the 'pull-out' technique. Then she went on the pill and we were fine. When we started swinging she went in with full intentions of using condoms, because she cannot use contraceptives anymore herself.
But when she would get into the heat of passion with guys, she would just go with the flow and if they didn't want to use one she was more than happy to accomodate. We finally came to the conclusion that she can't stand condoms and isn't going to use them if she doesn't have to.

[twotocum4u2]

Hmm, we perfer bareback but will "glove" up if the other couple requests it. As for were do I perfer to ejaculate, well I like it deep in the lady and that is were Mrs. Twotocum4u2 likes it too.

[theflamekasters]

the wife had a hysterectomy earkuer this year, and we play with a certain group of people bareback. all of which we know the satus of there fertitilty! That is our main conccern, since the people we meet we have a reference to 99 % of the time. If we meet some one at the club we have never seen before, then we sure cover up. Some of the cpls we play with often, ask us to so we do.

As far as where i cum i cum where the woman wants me to!!

[highlander]

The best safety video I have seen for folks that tend to go bareback is Porn 101 from the AIM Foundation-which is a medical foundation serving folks from the adult film industry. The actors in the adult film industry often rely exclusively on exchanging test results to increase safety.

One thing I'm curious about here:
how many bareback folks here regularly get tested for STD's?
How many ask for test results from partners?
How many would provide test results to a partner on request?

[2inVT]

Originally Posted by highlander

how many bareback folks here regularly get tested for STD's?
How many ask for test results from partners?
How many would provide test results to a partner on request?

We are regularly tested for STDs. Partly because we both (as aging people) are tested for other things regularly, so why not, and partly because we really do not want to pass anything nasty on to others.

We don't ask for test results - but we are pretty selective, and don't play with folks who would lie about it.

We'd provide results to anyone who asked, and we use condoms on request.

[good times]

Originally Posted by highlander

One thing I'm curious about here:
how many bareback folks here regularly get tested for STD's?

I haven't ever been tested. My wife has been tested recently for reasons unrelated to swinging. She has no STD's, so I am assuming I probably don't either.

Originally Posted by highlander

How many ask for test results from partners?

As I am firmly convinced any test results they showed me would be meaningless, I have never, nor will I ever ask for test results from a play partner. Frankly, if I was worried enough about a play partner to want them to be tested, I wouldn't want to play with them anyway.

Originally Posted by highlander

How many would provide test results to a partner on request?

Not me, similar to my answer to the previous question, if my potential play partner is that worried about me, I wouldn't want to play with them.

My only other comment regarding this condom issue is based on an observation we have made over the years. That is, that in the lifestyle, it is very politically correct for people to say they are a condom only when asked, but when they find out that you are willing to play without condoms they suddenly admit that they prefer not to use them either.

This has a very interesting effect, which is if you ask someone who truly is condom only, if most people in the lifestyle use condoms for sex. They would say yes they do, because that is what most people told them when they asked. On the other hand, if you ask someone who openly admits they prefer not to use condoms, if most people in the lifestyle use condoms for sex. They will say no, the vast majority of people in the lifestyle prefer not to use condoms. The difference is, while both people received the same answer from folks when they originally asked them if they required condoms for sex. The second group that prefers not to use condoms and is willing to tell folks that, will have the majority of those same people they asked change their answer when they find out that they prefer not to use condoms.

That is why in the last 6 years or so of active swinging, we have only been requested to use condoms about 5 or 6 times, which amounts to less than 10 percent of the folks we hooked up with for sex. Yet, well over 50% of those people we played with in that time said they were strictly condom only when we originally asked them if they required condom use.

Of course, I understand why people do this, as we have had two couples over the years decline to hook up with us because we admitted to preferring not to use condoms. Even though we told them we had no problem using condoms if they preferred for us to do so. Frankly, it didn't bother us though, we wouldn't feel comfortable playing with someone that felt that way anyway.

[tittietwister]

Our preference has always been no condoms but we will use at other’s request as long as both men use.

Unless otherwise requested internal ejaculation is the norm.

[Greg & Sheryl]

Originally Posted by highlander

How many bareback folks here regularly get tested for STD's?

We do, annually.

Originally Posted by highlander

How many ask for test results from partners?

We don't.

Originally Posted by highlander

How many would provide test results to a partner on request?

We could, but no one has ever asked.

[2inVT]

I have to agree with some of the other posts, though. A lot of swingers pay lip service to condom use, but in reality, they don't use them.

I expect it's because for the most part, if you admit to playing bareback, you get a whole lot of people giving you shit about it.

[meandu2gether]

I am blown and maybe just too new since I have yet to have an experience. However him meaning my man will be using condoms...we live in the DC area where I think statistically every third person is infected with the HIV virus. After watching a close friend die from that terrible disease I cannot take any chances. It's just not optional for me. I am shocked people go bareback in this "lifestyle"...as I said I have a whole lot to learn I guess.

[tallnsexy405]

So, when I cum in my woman it's deep inside and after a morning of good sex she goes to work. I get a call later that love juice is still dripping out of her. I read from the (morning after) that or later that night couples will make mad love. What do you do if the other mans cum is still there. I had no idea people came inside of their playmates....yes obviously we are new to this.

[2inVT]

Well, we tend to clean up after sex. And, if you don't want someone else to cum in your wife, use condoms.

[highlander]

Originally Posted by meandu2gether

I am blown and maybe just too new since I have yet to have an experience. However him meaning my man will be using condoms...we live in the DC area where I think statistically every third person is infected with the HIV virus. After watching a close friend die from that terrible disease I cannot take any chances. It's just not optional for me. I am shocked people go bareback in this "lifestyle"...as I said I have a whole lot to learn I guess.

Actually, DC does have a VERY high rate of HIV infection, but it is much less that 30%

According to the Post, at least 12,500 district residents have developed AIDS -- one of the highest rates in the country -- and officials estimate that between 3% and 5% of people living in the city are HIV-positive.

Now, what that means in practical terms is the chance of getting infected by a single unprotected/untested encounter in DC is maybe 1 in 10,000 on average. Now if you are VERY sexually active in DC, say an average of 5 unprotected/untested contacts per week for 20 years, you probably still won't become HIV+-but there is a good chance you would(40% or so if my math is right).

Anyhow, people take risks like smoking and drunken driving all the time. A lot of folks just don't think long term. The risk from a single encounter is small-but it adds up over a lifetime.