For those who dont use condoms

[Greg & Sheryl]

Originally Posted by foozballnow

Was it always something you have done since you entered the lifestyle, or something that came over time and experience?

Sheryl has hated condoms even since she was a teenager, so it was natural for her to play bare in the lifestyle from the start, but it took a little longer for me (Greg) to get with the program. As a youth, I used condoms religiously, but once my playmates and I started reaching our mid-30s, a number of my partners started sitting on my unprotected cock without even suggesting a condom. Needless to say, I got spoiled.

Also, where does the mini-community of bareback swingers tend to ejaculate? Do couples have rules about that or is it generally just done inside the woman?

We think bareback swingers are actually a silent majority in the lifestyle. When asked, most swingers will say that they use condoms because that's the politically correct response, but most of the people we know in the lifestyle also play bare. Rules regarding ejaculation vary from couple to couple, but vaginal cumshots are the most common, and oral and facial shots are popular among those who like to photograph or videotape their play.

[ShellyM]

Greg&Sheryl,
I agree. Honestly if you know a couple or person I don't see anything wrong with it. We have played bareback with couples we know and trust. Is there more risk with that? Yes there is...but in truth I think that the vast majority of the swinging community is fine. And in truth the only people I have ever met that have tested positive for std's are vanilla. Now of course, common sense is in order as always. For instance, if we still were doing bareback (Jay actually can with trusted couples as long as they are okay; I only refrain because my urologist told me to) we would not on saturday at the house party we are going to. Why? Simply because we do not know the couples there and don't want to take that risk. Anyways, again its simply a decision that every couple has to make for themselves.

[fun4Ds]

Yes there is...but in truth I think that the vast majority of the swinging community is fine. And in truth the only people I have ever met that have tested positive for std's are vanilla.

just curious, how many swingers have you honestly met, that showed any medical documation. how many have you asked?

[hmr]

Actually there are studies , which the Mrs found, that show people in the lifestyle tend to have much less STD's then the vanilla community. Something about we are more likely to be tested and are more aware of the issues. I'll see if she can find it again, but I do remember it was only a google search away.

[foozballnow]

Yea, I would like to see some of these studies. I know a lot of people mention them and that they are their reasons for going bareback but all the studies I ever see are talking about vanilla people and that wrapping it up saves your life. So where are the other studies and who is publishing them?

[ShellyM]

Originally Posted by fun4Ds

just curious, how many swingers have you honestly met, that showed any medical documation. how many have you asked?

Thats true, I don't walk up and say you are hot and btw do you have herpes lol. No, I haven't. However, when something breaks out usually people are notified. For instance, there is a yahoo group of swingers that in like March got a call from the CDC (I received this from our friend in Austin who keeps her ears constantly to the ground) that someone in their group had tested positive for HIV. You talk about a shock wave. Now, this was a group that mainly played north of the Austin area, but talk about a shock wave. What upset me was the fact that only certain members in that group were told to test for HIV. As far as we know they only had negative results..but the word got out quite fast about it. In my opinion swingers tend to look out for each other, and when someone is hot usually people know about it. Now thats completely my opinion and I may be wrong. But no, I do not ask to see lab slips. LOL.

[FunSeeker]

I much prefer bareback to condoms anyday, but i will wear one when requested. I just love feeling the full pleasure of warm moist pussy, very erotic as well.

Dennis

[hamlet]

We prefer to go bareback simply because it feels better. As age squeezes us tighter and tighter in its obnoxious grip, the degree of stimulation becomes more and more important if the male half of us wants to be fully functional.

Pregnancy is not a concern as we're both surgically fixed. In fact, if ever we conceive a child between us, we figure that we could start a new religion.

I agree with the previous poster who said that bareback couples are the lifestyle's silent majority. We've partied with a fair number of couples during our swinging years and have found that, if we don't bring up the subject of condoms (which we don't), very few others will. Of course, whenever we're asked to use them we comply with the other couple's wishes, but it's rare that we've established an ongoing relationship with such a couple. And that's certainly not because we resent being asked--quite to the contrary, we entirely respect and understand the preferences/concerns of those for whom condoms are essential--but rather because of the issue raised in Paragraph 1 above: sex is simply not much fun for us when condoms are involved. That's really too bad, as there's been at least one very nice couple whom we wish we could have continued to see, but, until Ponce de Leon reports back to us, that's just the way it is.

[ShellyM]

On Saturday we ended up playing bareback and it was tons of fun. Its just hard to use them because alot of times he is giving oral and then I'm giving him oral and its just the natural "progression". Is it a risk? Yep. And with me thank God for Macrobid. But it was a wonderful time.

[beachguyz]

Shelly M, I thought you didn't go bareback because of your issues. Has something changed?

[ShellyM]

Originally Posted by beachguyz

Shelly M, I thought you didn't go bareback because of your issues. Has something changed?

No. I don't have issues really. I take Macrobid after sex, I just usually use condoms as extra precaution. I have recurrent UTIs and so the condoms honestly are just an added protection. I played on Sat. and am fine because I took the Macrobid after and then on Sunday as my urologist told me to do.......I probably should have stopped him. But in truth I caved lol. He was really good at what he does and it seemed "unnatural" to stop the process.

[couplewanting50]

Originally Posted by ShellyM

I probably should have stopped him. But in truth I caved lol. He was really good at what he does and it seemed "unnatural" to stop the process.

Just reading that causes me to like you, and I mean because of the humanity in it. The live in the moment in it. The natural in it.

[ShellyM]

Originally Posted by couplewanting50

Just reading that causes me to like you, and I mean because of the humanity in it. The live in the moment in it. The natural in it.

Thank you, thats very sweet of you. I did think about it and then I was like who am I, whats my name again? LOL. They are truly a great pair, not only sexually but in all ways.

[TerryforSex]

Bareback...a decision .....
I guess it's up to the individual.
For me at fisrt it was condoms and then I did reserach things and condoms did not help with lots of sexaully transmitted things. Condoms are pourous. Its a fact.
Now I did have guys use the condoms if they prefered but the natural lambskin feels better inside me so I take along those. But the next guy may prefer bareback and so since I like to go without condoms we have our fun. Its a personal thing.
Now lets talk about birth control.....condoms are not the best for that either.

[rpu3]

Now lets talk about birth control.....condoms are not the best for that either.

Birth control is a personal choice just like bareback. Condoms might actually be the best method and choice for some. But condoms and birth control really isn't the point of the topic, unless you'd like to start a new thread, TerryforSex.