Checking Attitudes About Herpes

[good times]

Like your interpretation of the studies you have looked at, you have totally misread and misinterpreted the point of my posts.

I do not disagree or disbelieve the results of the studies I have read, in fact, I totally accept them for what they are. Unlike you though, I do not misinterpret or misapply the numbers the studies give in order to support my position. You are not alone though, most of the numbers regarding these STD's that you read on the internet are not supported by the studies they supposedly used to generate the numbers. The fact is, your numbers above are total baloney, made up to fit your version of reality. And it is numbers like these posted all over the internet that have the less informed thinking that every fifth person they meet has genital herpes, which is absolutely untrue, and their is no reputable researcher in the world that would support that claim.

Reread my posts, do not color what I am saying with your preconceived notions, I mean exactly what I say, no more.

You said the following,

"(quote of me) If I play with people who are not infected, my chances of contracting the virus are 0%.

(your response to the quote) The problem is that you cannot know that the person you are playing with is not infected. Accordingly, you can never take your chances to 0% so long as you choose to play. But, of course, you don't want to deal with that point because--once you acknowledge the truth of it--you must face the reality that you will play with the infected, you just won't know it."

You obviously didn't note that I said "If I play with people who are not infected"

Nowhere in that sentence did I mention playing with folks who were infected, nor did I mean to as it has absolutely nothing to do with my point. Like your statistics though, you reinterpret what I said to make your irrelevant exaggerated claims.

At first I just thought you were misunderstanding what you were reading in the studies, but it is obvious to me now that you just wish to make sure that the numbers prove your point by applying them in a way that the originators of the numbers never intended, in the hopes that no one will go check or be informed enough to know that the numbers you are giving are false.

To bad, because STD's are a real concern in the lifestyle, but awareness about them isn't helped by people using untruths to try and scare people by making the problem and risk look worse than it is.

[fun4Ds]

we agree with goodtimes !

[celtic239]

Please correct me if I am wrong but I'm under the impression that you can contract genital herpes even if you use a condom because the disease is transmitted through physical contact and not through bodily fluids.

[JustAskJulie]

I was just looking for something else and ran across this old poll/thread. Looking at the poll results I find them very interesting in light of the current thread going on.

[toomuchfun]

Originally Posted by celtic239

Please correct me if I am wrong but I'm under the impression that you can contract genital herpes even if you use a condom because the disease is transmitted through physical contact and not through bodily fluids.

It's too bad no one felt the need to answer this question when you posted it.. because EVERYONE needs to know the answer.

Skin on skin contact is how herpes is spread, LOTS of skin touches during sex. HSV1 or cold sores, which something like 75% of people have, can be xmitted to the genitals as well.

Not trying to scare, just trying to educate... if you are HSV free, and expect to stay that way, the only 100% way to do it is blood tests. Even that is not so great because it takes up to about 90 days for the antibodies to show up in your blood.

Good news is, herpes is just an annoyance, and really has no serious medical impact.

Sorry... end rant... Interested to see what others have to say on the subject.

[DnG]

So much to think about !

As I said in our ‘introduction’, we stopped going to the clubs in Miami and stopped swinging around the time that AIDs became a problem. Since we were going bareback without thinking a thing about it…[and so was everyone else at those clubs] ....it was probably the best thing we did…to stop. It was around that time [1985] that we found out that D’s son had HIV….that stopped it for her and as well for me.

I’ve learned a lot from this thread….that warts and cold sores are a symptom of a type of herpes and that you never get rid of the virus that causes them. As a child [gradeschool and maybe highschool] I had both warts and cold sores often. Haven’t had either of them since [more than 40 years] Does that mean I’m still capable of passing something along to someone else ?

I think I’ve read all of the responses to this thread and am wondering just what percent of the members of Swingersboard are participating swingers and what percent are just lurkers…like myself. I would like to get back into the lifestyle but I can appreciate my wife’s position.