Why do couples play without condoms in 2007??

[Sakaysi]

I'm in no way being judgemental, but I"m just trying to understand the rational behind a couple telling me that they play bareback with strangers....

A friend of mine suggested that this may be their way of letting me know that they're HIV positive....
I just can't get it...you would meet a stranger in today's world and have unprotected sex with them??

Someone explain this to me please

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by Sakaysi

I'm in no way being judgemental, but I"m just trying to understand the rational behind a couple telling me that they play bareback with strangers....

A friend of mine suggested that this may be their way of letting me know that they're HIV positive....
I just can't get it...you would meet a stranger in today's world and have unprotected sex with them??

Someone explain this to me please

First off, I'm going to guess your friend is an idiot, because thats an idiotic thing to say.

Second, risk is up to the couples involved. If they want to play without a condom thats up to them, in their opinion the risk must not be that great. They were upfront about it, so its their choice and their play partners.

As to 'why' they feel the risk is ok, I have a couple of topic titles that would go along with it.

Why do people still smoke in 2007? After all the health risks of smoking are well known and far more likely to happen to the average person than say HIV.

Why are people still fat in 2007? Don't we all know the health risks of being over weight?

Why do people still not use a seatbelt in 2007? Hell you even get a fine now and yet they still dont' do it.

Should I go on?

[BiloxiCouple]

Because we did it in 2006!!!

[Avril & Dec]

we go bareback because we really enjoy all the aspects of it. Like all the other risks in life as mentioned by Chicup, its a judgement call made at that the time - the consequences are known to us so we make that choice. We have questions now after reading your views , that maybe we are selfish - and that we in turn could put other people at risk - so I think we have to rethink....
Avril

[cuzzeyesaidso]

Originally Posted by Sakaysi

I just can't get it...you would meet a stranger in today's world and have unprotected sex with them??

So does it or should it matter if you know them or not? You can't possibly know every person that your friends are fucking, or if they didn't get caught up in the moment and let one slip and have bareback sex at a party or swing club. Even if for a couple seconds it happens. I know we would hope that they would come and tell us what went on and give us the decision to wrap it up or not, but all we really have is their word right?

In my opinion (the hubby), condoms offer no more than a false sense of security. I can't count the number of times my wife has sucked another man's dick, then kissed me during our play, and later on I'm licking my wife's pussy. Is that a risk? Hell yeah. Will we do it again? Damn straight.

[Mr. Truelove]

Originally Posted by BiloxiCouple

Because we did it in 2006!!!

LOL you beat me to it!

[crazykatie]

I think it is far easier to understand why some couples choose to play bareback than it is to understand why so many people care why.

The answer to the first question seems obvious: certain couples have made a personal judgment that wearing a condom does not reduce the risk of contracting an STD sufficiently to justify the reduction in the sexual pleasure associated with wearing the condom.

I get that. That I get it does not mean that I completely agree, but I am not trying to convince them that they are wrong or should think differently.

What I do not get is why other couples (or individuals) seem to feel some compulsion to debate this issue endlessly or otherwise paint those couples who choose to play bareback as somehow stupid or irresponsible. Just because someone has made a different decision than you have made or would make does not render their decision wrong or your decision right.

[cuzzeyesaidso]

Originally Posted by cuzzeyesaidso

I can't count the number of times my wife has sucked another man's dick, then kissed me during our play, and later on I'm licking my wife's pussy. Is that a risk? Hell yeah. Will we do it again? Damn straight.

Well what do you fucking know? An hour after I wrote this we had a couple come over that we hardly knew and we fucked bareback for damn near 3 hours straight. Even managed to pull a double-vaginal. Man, I'm tired.

[havefuninsun]

I don't see the need to "attack" either side of the issue. If folks choose go fuck strangers bareback, they're knowledgeable of the risks and choose to take them. For some of us, like the poster, the risks are too monumental to even consider. And that's cool. That's his prerogative, just as it's the prerogative of those who don't like condoms.

I have issues fucking strangers bareback. The risks bother me. And it's my choice. However, if we have developed trust among a couple, that's another story. We are no longer strangers, and if we feel we're all sharing all the information necessary to make an informed decision, then bareback fun could be an option. And we've actually exercised that option.

As they say, for each his own.

P.S. I ride my bicycle without a helmet. Thrax would think I've lost my mind, and it's UNBELIEVABLE to him someone would take that risk. ('course, I'm not riding on city streets, so I feel it's a risk I can take). I'm such a renegade.

[StacyCat]

To the OP, you are being judgemental.

I choose to use condoms when I fuck. Others choose not to. If someone is unwilling to use a condom with me, they do not get to fuck me.

To some people that always go without condoms, I am a higher risk because I use condoms with everyone.

To each their own. Everyone sets their own level of comfort.

[tribbles]

The answer to the first question seems obvious: certain couples have made a personal judgment that wearing a condom does not reduce the risk of contracting an STD sufficiently to justify the reduction in the sexual pleasure associated with wearing the condom.

[lovinher]

A friend of mine suggested that this may be their way of letting me know that they're HIV positive....

So much for evolution.

[good times]

Just by posing the question that you did you have indicated strongly that you are uninformed about the risks, and more importantly the amount of protection that condoms provide. The reason I say that, is that were you reasonably informed about the risks, and even if the ridiculous suggestion by your friend were true and this couple were HIV positive, and you had sex with them without condoms, as long as you had no contributing factors like open sores or cuts in your genital area, even the most pessimistic expert would rate your risk very low of contracting HIV through vaginal sex. furthermore, the chances of running into another swinger who has HIV/AIDS is also so remotely infinitesimal as to be a non-issue to most.

Now to be clear, their are some other Non-curable std's that you are much more likely to run into in the swinging community, like HSV (Herpes) and HPV. The important thing to know about these is that, condoms provide an insignificant amount of protection against their transmission. Once one knows this, it is no surprise that some would not consider vaginal sex with condoms to be significantly safer than vaginal sex without condoms. In other words, if you have sex with someone with an active outbreak of genital Herpes or HPV, wearing a condom will more than likely not keep you from contracting it.

Personally, I think that people that feel that using condoms somehow reduces their risks of contracting the std's one might encounter while swinging are suffering from a severe case of wishful thinking. On the other hand, I can fully understand how someone might rationally come to the conclusion that overall they are taking slightly less risk by using condoms than not, based on the widely varying information available. It is also true that condoms can be effective against some of the more common vaginal infections that one might encounter. So, I don't have any problem with folks that require condom use, and if I wish to play with them I will readily comply with their wishes. I also don't have any problem with people who have decided that condoms don't provide a significant enough reduction in risk to justify their use either. In my opinion, this is one of those things that each individual must decide for themselves, and neither decision is incorrect.

[Sakaysi]

Thanks to everyone who posted a reply to this....
And as one poster put it....by the tone of my orginal post i was in fact being judgemental.....
I hope I didn't offend anyone....I understand where u guys are coming from.....

Thank you

[des1re06]

Because I studied medicine before becoming an engineer and I understand how STDs are transmitted. Yes, we take a risk within our close group, but that's our CHOICE.

Mrs. D