The Great Condom Assumption

[Spoomonkey]

I was chatting with a friend today (virtually) who asked our MO on condoms. For us, condoms for penetration - not for oral...

I've heard the arguements both ways. Some people insist that oral without a condom is as risky as intercourse without a condom... I've read those people's posts and arguements and completely respect it.

But I have never met any of them...

When we meet people at the club and boundaries are discussed, we say we're condom only. And when we get to the room, it is like they understand our position. They dive into oral as eagerly as we do - and then roll on a condom at the appropriate moment.

I have never thought of it before, but it seems that "condoms only" is generally assumed to NOT include oral. Fine with us - but now that I think about it, I am surprised by the assumption.

What do you think?

Spoomonkey

[two4youinswva]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

When we meet people at the club and boundaries are discussed, we say we're condom only. And when we get to the room, it is like they understand our position. They dive into oral as eagerly as we do - and then roll on a condom at the appropriate moment.

That has been our experience as well. Every time. We've never had anyone request them for oral either.

I have never thought of it before, but it seems that "condoms only" is generally assumed to NOT include oral. Fine with us - but now that I think about it, I am surprised by the assumption.

Once, again, that has been our experience. I'm not sure that it's a correct assumption, but it has always been ours as well.
I would seem to me that since the condoms for oral requirement is made by very few people (in our experience), that they would specify if that were the case.

[intuition897]

Same here.

I wouldn't even know how to go about oral with latex barriers. Seems very artificial. And kinda gross. So although we do use condoms for penetration, the risk for having oral sex without protection is acceptable. We're a relatively inactive couple, only getting together with others once in a blue moon, and we focus on selecting our partners carefully. I know, not foolproof, but it does decrease the risks to an acceptable minimum.

[pumpkins1970]

And yet another"same here" from the pumpkin patch, we used condoms for intercourse only, not for oral. We have had people try to talk us into not using condoms, on the arguement that oral is just as risky as intercourse, but we just feel the need to use them for sex. One couple even got angry at us for our belief in the use of condoms, if you can imagine that! Which again brings us to the issue of boundaries that must be obeyed, or we will not play. Maybe they are true about the risk, but the thought of an unwanted pregnancy is also too real, so for that and other reasons, we will always be " No Glove, No Love", XOXO

[WesternSwing]

Spoo, I agree with you. "Condoms only" has meant condoms for intercourse but not for oral with everybody we've ever met.

Mr. WS

[Carol_Danny]

Yep, I will continue that motion...."Condoms Only" to us means for Vaginal or Anal penetration. In over 20 years in the Lifestyle, we have never been or known anyone who even hinted at oral sex with a condom (or barrier).

Danny & Carol

[DBL D]

I think we're on a roll here...Condoms Only has meant intercourse, not oral.

Male D

[northindycpl]

Dito......

However, I do know of a gal that uses them for EVERYTHING, and saran wrap for the ladies. We haven't played with her, but she is very open about it.

It is really odd to me that it is condoms for intercourse, nothing for oral.

[todesireu]

Great discussion! We have gone by condoms only for intercourse but not for oral. I've posed the oral STD question to several docs I know and the concensus is oral without condoms has some risk but not as much as intercourse without a condom. Select playmates carefully. facelick

[lindyswing]

Our condom rule relative to oral is: we'd consider starting without condoms, but no guys cum in girls mouths without condoms. We're also playing with a couple that is strictly no oral without condoms, and they introduced us to the wonderful world of FLAVORED condoms....the joy of giving head to a fruit-flavored dick makes it tempting to get stricter with our rules.

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by lindyswing

Our condom rule relative to oral is: we'd consider starting without condoms, but no guys cum in girls mouths without condoms. We're also playing with a couple that is strictly no oral without condoms, and they introduced us to the wonderful world of FLAVORED condoms....the joy of giving head to a fruit-flavored dick makes it tempting to get stricter with our rules.

This is a reasonable rule, but my question is: if you start with oral and stop to roll on a condom, doesn't that pretty much give the excitement time to abate?

We have only done oral to completion with a very few select playmates. We are very picky about who Mrs Spoomonkey will swallow for - and to be honest, it almost never happens. She gives great head (IMHO) but we will always move on to something else.

I had one girl finish me that way - and I am very difficult to get there - and while I enjoyed what she did, I was really indifferent about it. At the time it was great, but I am perfectly fine with receiving for a bit and then moving on to - and finishing with - other activities.

Besides, I get all the oral I can stand at home

Spoomonkey

[Chicup]

We never even considered doing oral with a condom.

Its one of those risks we take.

We tend to be very picky with our playmates, and ya we hope for the best there.

[WildMiCouple]

We're in "condoms for intercourse only" group. The condoms only come out after the oral foreplay.

But the subject reminds me of our first trip to an off-premise dance as we ventured into the lifestyle a couple years ago. We were sitting at a table near the back of the room chatting with another couple. Tammy brings up how large I am....and the other girl's eyes light up and she proceeds to tell Tammy that she loves to deep throat a nice sized guy. So, she asks Tammy if she can deep throat me. Keep in mind, I'm not listening to what their talking about. Anyway, Tammy says go ahead.....he's never had it done before. Next thing you know, she's crawling under the table and tugging at my zipper Tammy then fills me in.....cool Well, I look down and after she fondles me hard.....she slips on a condom. A black one at that. She then proceeds to go down on me very slowly. I feel her nose poke my pubic area....wow. But......as she slowly took me completely down her throat and back......I couldn't see my cock The black condom in a darkened corner meant I could only watch her head work slowly up and down......I couldn't enjoy the visual of watching my hard cock disappear completely down her throat What a disappointment. I don't know if she used it for safe sex or because she didn't want to get a mouthful of cum.....but she didn't need it for either because I'm clean and I sure didn't cum. The one and only time I've used a condom for oral :rollseyes

Brett