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Reproduction vs. Pleasure

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Old 07-17-2002, 02:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi! I was wondering if everybody can help me and my wife settle a bet!

First, some history... before we got married, we used condoms for birth control. Ever since we got married, she went on the pill. Now that she's on the pill, we go bareback, but when we play with other couples, latex is the rule. (At least until we find a couple we exceptionally trust with our lives, because that's the risk you take with unprotected sex.)

One day, we got into a discussion with the entire condom vs. no condom issue, and why people (in general) would rather not use a barrier form of birth control. I contend that there are also instinctive issues at work here, but she believes that it's strictly about pleasure.

My argument is that, all things being equal (no fear of pregnancy, disease, etc.) one of the reasons both men and women would rather have intercourse au natural is because, biologically speaking, the entire point behind sexual intercourse is to induce pregnancy and reproduce. As such, in the back of every couple's mind (barring same-sex partners, of course) is the instinctive drive for the man to deposit his sperm into the woman's vagina in order to produce offspring. And a woman has the same instinctive urge to receive the man's sperm inside of her, with the hope of becoming pregnant. When a couple is using a barrier form of birth control, such as condoms, the same satisfaction just isn't there, as the entire point (biologically speaking) for intercourse is for the man to ejaculate his semen deep into his partner's vagina, and subconsciously they know that his sperm is ending up into a little latex reservoir tip.

I believe this to be true even if the couple does not want children, as this is a "hard-wired" instinctive urge.

My wife, on the other hand, tells me that this is hogwash. The only reason that couples go bareback is because of the greater pleasure felt by both parties, and the more intimate bonding effect of intercourse without condoms. There is no doubt that the both of us prefers the bare "skin-on-skin" sensation of natural sexual intercourse, and Amelia swears that she enjoys the sensation of my semen flowing into her when I ejaculate.

As such, this poll with have two questions:

1) Do you believe that the urge to not use a barrier method of birth control is because of Instinct, or Pleasure?

2) All things being the same (no fear of pregnancy, disease, etc.), do you prefer intercourse with, or without, a barrier method of birth control?

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Old 07-17-2002, 09:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry Chris,

I have to agree with your wife on this one, diseases and pregnancy aside. Although condoms keep the sheets clean, I prefer what I affectionately refer to as the FF sensation - freshly f@#%ed. It just isn't the same with a condom. [Angel or Devil]

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Old 07-18-2002, 04:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Sorry Chris,

I have to agree with your wife on this one, diseases and pregnancy aside. Although condoms keep the sheets clean, I prefer what I affectionately refer to as the FF sensation - freshly f@#%ed. It just isn't the same with a condom. [Angel or Devil]

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Don't get us wrong: given a choice, we both prefer intercourse without condoms. We just have different opinions of why condom-free intercourse is more satisfying for most couples.

I say because of reproductive urge. She says it's strictly because of increased pleasure due to bare penis-in-vagina contact and (to a lesser extent) the feeling of being "filled" with semen at orgasm.
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I say because of reproductive urge. She says it's strictly because of increased pleasure due to bare penis-in-vagina contact and (to a lesser extent) the feeling of being "filled" with semen at orgasm.[/QB][/quote]

I am with the wife on this one. I had more of an "urge" not to reproduce and spent a lot of time worrying about it. It has always been pleasure for me and nix the condoms with the spouse. They hinder the ultimate pleasures.

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At our age (we are in our early 60s) the urge not to use a barrier is all about pleasure. We prefer not to use condoms because of the increased sensation between a bare cock and a bare cunt. This is one of the reasons we swing regularly with a group of couples whose ages are all within 10 or 12 years of ours. No-one ever uses condoms when this group is together but when we swing with new couples on vacation or when we visit a swingers club then we always use condoms for obvious reasons. This is clearly second best for us but what we lose on the sensation we regain, at least in part, on the duration - a good fuck is a good fuck with or without protection.
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ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT I LOVE TO KNOW THAT CUM IS FLOWING THROUGH MY BODY AND HAVE JUST DISCOVERED HOW EROTIC AND DELICIOUS IT IS TO SWALLOW IT. WE USE CONDOMS WITH MOST COUPLES BUT FOR THE ONES WE KNOW REAL WELL, WE ENJOY THE TRUE SENSATION OF F******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT I LOVE TO KNOW THAT CUM IS FLOWING THROUGH MY BODY AND HAVE JUST DISCOVERED HOW EROTIC AND DELICIOUS IT IS TO SWALLOW IT. WE USE CONDOMS WITH MOST COUPLES BUT FOR THE ONES WE KNOW REAL WELL, WE ENJOY THE TRUE SENSATION OF F******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with you. I think it's instinctive in wanting semen inside me. I let all my casual & close male friends ejaculate inside me. There is energy flowing through semen that is extremely recharging for my body. It is erotic and delicious! Very spiritual to me. Just two years ago, I would allow all strangers to ejaculate inside me also, but now very rarely do that; almost always insist they put on a condom.
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We have to admit that we love to go bareback. On one occasion, my wife and I invited another male and he and I took turns cumming in her pussy. She loved every second of it. Admittely, we only do this with people we trust, but it is better without rubbers.
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In my opinion being the female that its all about reproduction....thats what sex is for. Although we have four of the offspring now its not about that anymore, but thats what its all about. As for hubby I am sure its about the f***king for him. He would prefer not to use condoms because of the feeling of the skin and all but when it comes down to it all its in the human nature to reproduce. Thats why we all prefer not to use them but we all have brains also and know of all the scary things out there just waiting to get ahold of us so we use the condoms.

Thats what I think hope I made sense
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My wife, on the other hand, tells me that this is hogwash. The only reason that couples go bareback is because of the greater pleasure felt by both parties, and the more intimate bonding effect of intercourse without condoms. There is no doubt that the both of us prefers the bare "skin-on-skin" sensation of natural sexual intercourse, and Amelia swears that she enjoys the sensation of my semen flowing into her when I ejaculate.
I have to agree with Amelia on this one too. I have read somewhere about the bonding aspects and I will definately agree with those ideas.
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It's not reproductive for me at all. It's truly the idea of flesh on flesh, that he's able to feel my wetness and how soft I am inside. Condoms are necessary, but they definitely take away some pleasure.
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I think it's both in a way. We don't control instinct and we don't think about it when we are really acting on instinct, so therefore, it would be hard to just say one or the other.
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Some interesting thoughts in this thread, and I have to agree with the pleasure part - but from a slightly different angle.

I like to switch back and forth from penetration to oral several times in a play session. Condoms limit my style because of their nasty taste and the taste they leave behind. Somehow I get stuck in my thinking when condoms are involved that once penetration begins, it's thrusting till it's over. Then we wash that yucky condom taste away.

If she's more comfortable with condoms, I'll wear one - but I know in advance it's not going to be as intense as it could otherwise be....
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I have to agree with your wife on this too Chris, for me, I prefer no barrier because it feels better. In fact, I rate the amount of pleasure I get having an orgasm in the following order (1 being most pleasurable to 4 being least pleasurable);

1 - Straight bareback vaginal sex.
2 - A good blow job with no barrier.
3 - masturbation, no barrier.
4 - Vaginal sex with a barrier.
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Hmmm, I think I have to side with Amelia on this one. While my level of desire is definitely affected my monthly cycle, my desire to go "bareback" is just as strong now that Mr. Sweet is "fixed". Actually, it's stronger, since the worries over conception are no longer a factor. Both of us are way more aroused when we aren't using (or thinking about not using) condoms.

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