Why Condoms for sex and not for oral?

[lcjtsd]

I posted this in another thread and wanted to start a new topic.

My wife and I prefer not to use condoms as we feel that sloppy seconds are part of the whole experience. Also, she would never do oral on a guy with a condom on. She can't stand the thought of that rubber taste. Everyone knows how difficult it can be to find two couples who are all compatible. Try finding another couple you are compatible with who is not afraid of cum!!!

Enough of that. The point I would like to bring up is this; From what I have read on this Message Board, many (if not most) couples/singles prefer not to use condoms or plastic wrap when giving/receiving oral but insist on condoms for intercourse. Some have stated their reason is a pregnancy issue while others have said they feel this is an intimate thing left for just themselves. OK.

My question is for the others. Why? Why do you have unprotected sex for oral but insist on condoms for intercourse? Please don't flamethrow me here. I would really like to know. If the other couple has anything you're afraid of catching, guess what, you've got it now too!

Now, we're fairly new to this swinging stuff and have only played with a single guy we know very well. We feel that other swinging couples we would play with (late 30's, early 40's) would be pretty much just like us and the odds of them having anything would be pretty low.

We state on our online ads that prefer no condoms. (I guess that's why we don't receive many responses!!!) We are still waiting for our first couple/couple experience.

So, except for the pregnance and intimacy issues, why do you do oral sex unprotected and insist on protection for intercourse? I just doesn't seem to make sense to me to do oral one way and intercourse another.

Mr. LCJTSD

[lcjtsd]

The whole weekend has went by and not one response. I am . Is this board full of cliques of which we are not members so our postings get no response? Perhaps, it's the question itself. Maybe everyone is dumbfounded by the question as it does indeed make no sense to perform oral unprotected and then insist on a condom for intercourse. I was hoping to get at least one response to my question.

I noticed a poll started today, 7/13, that asked if anyone does oral with a condom. I found this interesting as that question and this one are along the same lines. The difference, however, is that others answered that question.

Please don't flame me for my ranting and raving. I truly believed that this was a great question. Is there is a clique here I could hook up with?

Mr. LCJTSD

[HotCoupleGnS]

I don't think there are any cliques here. I think your thread may have just got over looked. During the weekend I think it is a little slow here. Being it summer & all, people are busy with kids, playing, & life.

So, I guess I will be the first to answer your question & I am sure others will too. I hate using condoms while giving a blow job. Sloopy seconds isn't really our deal. It sounds so gross when you say it like that. We don't like using condoms during intercourse b/c it doesn't feel as good. We decide depending on the couple or male that we play with. All the single males we played with, we knoew very well, & I was on BC so we didn't use condoms. Same as one couple we played with. The other couple we played with, she wasn't on anything b/c he had a vastecomy. So, we used condoms in that case. So the answer for us, is we take it on a case by case basis!

[Alura]

To answer your question, lcjtsd, I suppose a lot of couples are aware that saliva and stomach acid contain some pretty powerful chemicals that will kill most germs, particularly the very fragile aids virus. This is not true of the vagina and even less true of the anus, where almost no protection against germs exists. Further, the tissues in the anus almost always get small tears during anal intercourse, making the likelihood of infection greater.

We've never used condoms when playing and we've never gotten an STD. Our approach has been to be very selective in choosing our playmates, and we've only chosen five couples in our 24 years together. Mrs. Alura was on the pill at the time and none of the other couples had birth control issues.

If a couple has been married for many years, been equally careful and we "like their eyes" (which means we think they can be trusted) we've not been afraid of playing "au naturel." We've also played with our playmates on a long-term basis, during which time neither couple had outside contacts. (That was not a requirement; it just happened that way.) We also don't go to on-premises clubs and don't fuck strangers.

I don't like the term "sloppy seconds" either. It sounds crude and does not describe the situation at all. I've never known a woman to get "sloppy" even after two or three acts of intercourse. Most women we've played with do a quick clean-up afterward. There are several ways to do that...

Now, before I get totally flamed, let me say that I would never refuse to use a condom if it were requested. I don't know about saran wrap... Seems to me that would really ruin most of the pleasure of eating a lady.

I will say, also, that if either Mrs. Alura or myself thought there might be a reason to wear a condom, we probably wouldn't play at all. We would use them and play if it made the other couple more comfortable, but not if we thought they had an STD.

Mr. Alura

[stoutgatte]

To a large extent the risk of catching an STD (especially HIV) through oral is significantly lower than through intercourse... Just like the Alura's said...

So yeah, there is a risk, and to significantly reduce it we use condoms during intercourse. We could reduce it even further by using a barrier during oral, but we feel it is a risk we are willing to accept...

[BradAndJanet]

Originally Posted by stoutgatte

To a large extent the risk of catching an STD (especially HIV) through oral is significantly lower than through intercourse... Just like the Alura's said...

So yeah, there is a risk, and to significantly reduce it we use condoms during intercourse. We could reduce it even further by using a barrier during oral, but we feel it is a risk we are willing to accept...

Dito that. Couldn't have said it more succinctly.

-B

[sensuality]

Well, I{female member} will use a condom for intercourse, but am leaning towards not using one for oral.My hunny will use one for intercourse, because homeboy is seriously fertile! I will use a condom because I am not on any b/c and can not use hormones. Plus,we're into clubs,so that facilitates the necessity of a condom

[u2us269]

We have one cpl with whom we do not use condoms with. Anyone else the rule is ; we use condoms for intercourse. No, we don't use them for oral-and agree with the statements above. Yes, you can contract herpes,gonnorhea and the common cold from oral sex--however the likelyhood of the aids virus surviving in the oral cavity is very slim unless the person has a bleeding sore in their mouth at the time of the sexual act.-I guess carefully selecting your swinging partners and hoping that they are honest as you are with them can help.
I don't like the way a condom feels for intercourse and neither do most of the women that I have had the opportunity to have sex with-(lube helps a lot)---but it is a good way to remain somehwat safe in a risque lifestyle.

[Alura]

U2us269 wrote:

I guess carefully selecting your swinging partners and hoping that they are honest as you are with them can help.

That pretty much sums it up for us. Dito!

Alura

[sensuality]

I also think the overall question that should be added here is: For the ladies: Do you let the male cum inside of you when not using a condom ?For the guys: Do you cum inside the woman when not using a condom ???My opinion:Too risky for me...on many levels.Even if we use a condom, I want the guy to pull out and cum somewhere else;-)Not inside...Any thoughts out there on this one??? :rollseyes

[lcjtsd]

Since I started this thread, I wanted to add that we recently played with a guy who insisted on "safe" sex and using a condom for intercourse. Guess what..he gave us an STD from the oral. Safe sex??? LMAO! There is no such thing. Fortunately, a trip to the Doc and a few pills cleared everything up. As many of you know from our previous posts, we love the whole natural experience. Sex with others is a risk. We feel that those of you who do oral unprotected and insist on condoms for intercourse are missing out on the best part of sex...skin on skin. We feel that if you do oral unprotected and didn't catch anything then you wasted a perfectly good condom.

Please no flamethrow , remember this is our opinion. What we learned from this experience is that anyone who insists on using a condom is probable trying to keep us from catching what he has.

Anyone on this board who is from Vegas and likes doing everything the natural way, hit us up. We love cream pies and will run away real fast from those who insist on using condoms. Fool us once....

[mde 4764]

We never have understood the logic of unprotected oral, but demand cover intercourse. We hate condoms because of the un-natural feeling. If we play with someone that requires them we will use them, but much prefer not to.

Yes we know there are risk involved. There is also risk crossing the street too.

[katejustkate]

Originally Posted by Alura

To answer your question, lcjtsd, I suppose a lot of couples are aware that saliva and stomach acid contain some pretty powerful chemicals that will kill most germs, particularly the very fragile aids virus. This is not true of the vagina and even less true of the anus, where almost no protection against germs exists. Further, the tissues in the anus almost always get small tears during anal intercourse, making the likelihood of infection greater.

As for me (Kate) I agree. I worrie more about the rick of the uncureable HIV and Hepititis. Even tough you can get Heptitis from shuch things as a toilet seat, contaminated water, and poor hygine.