No single males? Why not??

[Energine]

It's good to see some lively reflection and debate about attitudes, beliefs and values about sex, communication and tolerance. I do take the point that some single males have been less than sociable or nice and that has coloured some people's opinions. As to no human rights on this site for single males - doesn't even deserve a response.

[rachan]

I'm somewhat amused by some clubs that 'welcome' couples and women but not single males. I love sex with my husband and other men and as I'm writing this there are two men in my house.

[Thrax]

Originally Posted by Bama0468

Now that being said here is a wee bit of advice for the single Folks...

BE respectful when your communicating with the couple (as individual or otherwise)
Their Rules for Play are the LAW don't break them and Don't ask for them to be later on.
If asked to back off, by all means Back off
If asked to Join in, if your comfortable doing so, Please do, if not Communicate it.
Just because you were asked once, don't expect it again unless asked (begging makes you look bad)...

Good advice for singles AND couples.

Thrax

[LFM2]

Originally Posted by Bama0468

BE respectful when your communicating with the couple (as individual or otherwise)
Their Rules for Play are the LAW don't break them and Don't ask for them to be later on.
If asked to back off, by all means Back off
If asked to Join in, if your comfortable doing so, Please do, if not Communicate it.
Just because you were asked once, don't expect it again unless asked (begging makes you look bad)
They are the couple and you are their for their fantasy/Pleasure, so make sure YOU know what is desired ahead of time.

There is more but thats off the top of my head

I totally agree with Thrax, this is should include couples as well.

One thing that struck me is that as a couple, we do have rules -- but, so does our single male. I'm sure, or at least I'm hoping it's been mentioned before -- I think it needs to be a mutual agreement, just like it would as if we played with a couple.

I don't know, we've only had one single male that we play with so we can be quite ignorant on this subject. We've always treated each other with a mutual respect. We're not so vain and arrogant to think this is just about us. We, as a couple need to think of his needs, too. I guess what I'm trying to say is that he's not there to just be our slave and do what we want. We want to make sure he's happy as well and that we've filled his wants and needs at the same time.

[Bama0468]

Originally Posted by LFM2

I totally agree with Thrax, this is should include couples as well.

One thing that struck me is that as a couple, we do have rules -- but, so does our single male. I'm sure, or at least I'm hoping it's been mentioned before -- I think it needs to be a mutual agreement, just like it would as if we played with a couple.

I don't know, we've only had one single male that we play with so we can be quite ignorant on this subject. We've always treated each other with a mutual respect. We're not so vain and arrogant to think this is just about us. We, as a couple need to think of his needs, too. I guess what I'm trying to say is that he's not there to just be our slave and do what we want. We want to make sure he's happy as well and that we've filled his wants and needs at the same time.

LMF I conrgatulate you on finding not only a single Male Playmate but what appears to be an extension of your family , and I never said the single didn't NEED anything, thats where the communication comes in. And yes the same can be said of the rules for Couples as well. I do know for a fact that there are etiquette posts in the archives area under swing does don'ts and how to's.

Lets face it EVERY aspect of the lifestyle no matter what your choice boils down to communication, MUTUAL Respect, Mutual fun, and mutual pleasure.

If there is no communication-
if there is no Mutual Respect-
if there is no mutual fun -
The relationship will fail
If there is no mutual fun - the Single/Couple will likely not get revisited or be asked over again. ( yes I know anyone can have off nights, but we all know what I am speaking of)

Everyone has to do what "FITS" for theselves whether they be a Single or a couple, if the couple does not want Singles (Male or Otherwise), such as my wife and I as I stated in my earlier Post, then that should be respected and not berated, Just as I do not berate those who choose to invite singles.

As the old saying Goes, one bad apple can spoil the lot, and this applys to couples as well as singles. Too many times I have read about a couple PUSHING activities on a couple, activities they had said in the beginning they didn't want, and what are the rules of engagement? Stick with what the less experienced or the more Vanilla. Some Singles are the same way or get clingy afterward and want to push more into the couples lives.

lets be honest whats right for one is not right for all, and had our experience with a single been different then maybe we would have invited them back or even looked for another.

maybe I will Start another thread and share our Stories of Singles, and perhaps those who partake of the singles in a positive manner could do the same, Although I can not imagine this site being here as long as it has and there not being some pro and con postings in here already.

[JustAskJulie]

Originally Posted by Energine

As to no human rights on this site for single males - doesn't even deserve a response.

No one said they have no rights on this site, she said that they have no human rights in HER bedroom.

Originally Posted by wetpanties

Single Men don't have any human rights in our bedroom! STOP trying to open the door where they just aren't wanted. What part of NO don't you understand?

[Thrax]

Originally Posted by Bama0468

...maybe I will Start another thread and share our Stories of Singles, and perhaps those who partake of the singles in a positive manner could do the same, Although I can not imagine this site being here as long as it has and there not being some pro and con postings in here already.

I'm sure threads devoted to stories of single males in a negative light, and a thread devoted to single males in a positive light, would generate lots of stories, some of which have already been told in other threads.

I'm a single male who tries hard but admittedly commits the occasional faux pas. I would appreciate it, if anyone does start single male negative story and/or single male positive story threads, that the threads are devoted to stories about single males, and will not knowingly include stories about married men pretending that they are single. Those of us single males who try to be respectful have to fight the single male stereotype; we don't need to carry the baggage of the cheating married males, too.

Thanks for your consideration.

Thrax

[Energine]

Yes you are absolutely correct there and I apologise to wetpanties for my jumping in way too quick before thinking.(? a case of my premature ejaculation of words).

[screaminggood]

Thrax, and others: Be reassured. Those of us who adore single men will always find you, and there's going to be a place in our beds for you. I've found that the single men at our favorite club are respectful gentlemen...and extremely good at the game.

I'm the opposite of most posters in that I prefer single men over the married men! The single men I've been with have focused much more on my pleasure than their own, and there's been ultra longevity. Is it just happenstance? I don't know, but rest assured, I'm not giving y'all up no matter how many rants there are on the Board.

[Hot Raleigh Cpl]

Single males are welcome here. Or groups of males. Most of our adventures are males for L. She loves it, and we have hot times afterwards.

As long as you're clean d/d free (like us), sane, and treat L like the lady she is, you'll get no barriers from us. The few jerks we've met have been a low percentage of the guys who've contacted us. YES, we play with couples and single women, too. But most of our play is L and guys.

S and L, Hot Raleigh Cpl

[Rae and Lynn]

We have been swinging since May 2002...we are an in love interracial married couple (she black, he white)...75% of our swinging is mfm threesomes for a variety of reasons (she loves being the center of attention, loves to have two dicks to play with and pleasure her, I am recovering from prostate cancer) and we always start with a social meet and greet to see if we all get along and to see if my wife and the new guy have a sexual attraction. The show rate for the guys is 33% (for constrast - the couple show rate is 100%). We have found out that our best bet for a successful meet and greet followed by successful play time are guys who are in fact married that are playing with their wife's permission (we were surprised by how many there are) - we know they have their wife's permission as we meet with both so we have it right from her in person......they turn out to better lovers, have fewer issues, want more than a one night stand....just one couple's view but you asked for opinions....this is ours..

[jnbsmokin]

I'm just sick of being hammered with single male emails! Single men are a dime a dozen, any woman or couple has their pick, with plenty to share. I agree with bear and bunny for the most part, any couple can walk into any bar and pick a single male up for free. We are looking for the couples and unicorns, but if we want a single male, we will find you! I think the single men should stop being so pushy!! We have stalkers on SLS and AFF. Look, if you are wanted, we will tell you, and if we tell you yes, and that we will give you a weeks notice of when we can play, take it as "Stop buzzing us everytime we turn im on, and quit writing daily emails asking to keep you in mind, or if I'm sure J wouldn't go for 1-on-1!" The bad apples ruin it for the singles to the point that we would rather pick up a single vanilla in a bar, than deal with any swingles (as I sometimes call them) on a site. I'm sorry, but that is my blunt answer....

[visaman]

What if the single guy wants to bang the wife's husband?

[sar308]

"What if the single guy wants to bang the wife's husband?"

Oh man, now thats funny! But like anything else it probably happens.

[asiancplemd]

Originally Posted by JustAskJulie

No one said they have no rights on this site, she said that they have no human rights in HER bedroom.

We have been swinging since 1999 and have had our shares of single guys. It all depends on her mood as to whom she want to play. Some of them have been very good and some just say.... pencil dicks.