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No single males? Why not??

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Old 09-08-2005, 09:29 PM   #196 (permalink)
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I would prefer a guy cheating on his wife before a single male. I've been a single male and know how most of them think. I said..."MOST", not ALL. Knowing myself is reason enough. Find a woman that wants to get laid and then you try to fall in love. WRONG!
I have to challenge your opinion with a question. Were you a single man in your late 30s/early 40s? Had you been in a relationship, however casual, that also involved swinging while you were a single man? How old were you when you got married? Was it in your early 20s or late 30s?

Everyone is different. EVERYONE is different. EVERYONE is DIFFERENT! Just because you were a horny little toad that tried to hop everyone at every opportunity, no matter how slight, you can't say all single men are looking to do the same. Some of us do have self control. Some of us do have great respect for women. Some of us even have a great amount of respect for other people's relationships and don't want to do anything harm them.

You don't believe you can trust single men around your wife. Thats your opinion. My opinion is that if you don't take the time to get to know a single man you would to get to know a single woman or couple, you are more than likely meet the bad ones. There are just more single men trying to get into swinging than there are people who have experience. When good people have to try and get someone's attention with a bunch of bad people getting more attention, you only see the bad people. Thats true in politics, religion, business, and swinging, among other things.
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Old 09-08-2005, 10:22 PM   #197 (permalink)
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Too many posts to read them all, but this seems pretty simple to me. You, the single guy, gets my beautiful lady and I get what?
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Old 09-08-2005, 11:29 PM   #198 (permalink)
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Too many posts to read them all, but this seems pretty simple to me. You, the single guy, gets my beautiful lady and I get what?
You get to help your wife fulfill a fantasy or experience something she finds pleasurable. Maybe in return she will get someone to help fulfill one of your fantasys or double your pleasure. Who knows?

Maybe a MFM is on your or your wife's "to do before I die" or "fun things to do occasionally" list. Who knows?

Different people do the same thing for different reasons at different times. Wives are not property to be traded, borrowed, or bartered. They are partners. If a couple are partners in sexual adventure, hopefully they both will "get" what they seek. It's all good, or at least that's the way we always plan it.
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Old 09-08-2005, 11:45 PM   #199 (permalink)
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All I can say is this. When I was with my past swing partners, it was not about a one for one swap. It was about the adventure. The whole "What do I get out of a single man joining us" doesn't sound like the adventure is as important as having sex with someone new. Yes, that is part of the adventure, but a bigger part should be exploring new sensations. Of course, if all you want is to swap partners and watch each other, yes, a single person, man or woman, isn't for you. But if you want to experience new sensations, you should limit yourself based on a misconception.

Limits are fine, but as a recovering adrenaline junkie, I can tell you that by not trying something before you truly investigate it, might be missing out on something you would really enjoy. For example, if I had listened to everyone that said black guys don't surf, I never would have gotten a date with my neighbor's best friend that only dated surfers. I learned that she was actually into guys that road fiberglass and wooden boards on waves, not just guys that dressed the part. It didn't work out, but we did have three weeks of incredible fun. I actually rode a board to shore once.
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:23 PM   #200 (permalink)
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I understand why most couples are not looking for a single man. This however does not mean a single man should be considered. If they come up to you with a sincere heart and a friendship waiting to be explored, couples could be missing out on future double dates.
I am not looking to try and break up a marriage. I am presently looking to meet new people who share similar interests in sex so we can talk openly and honestly. I find that most people I talk with would never consider the lifestyle. I have a lot of friends but I wind up on the wrong end of conversations. As one of my friends once put it...
"My moral compass is broken." And I don't even want to sleep with them.
So open your heart and maybe your relationships to a single guy. If anything, you guys may find a good golfing buddy.
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Old 09-11-2005, 02:15 AM   #201 (permalink)
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Too many posts to read them all, but this seems pretty simple to me. You, the single guy, gets my beautiful lady and I get what?

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This is exactly our point!!! YOU GET TO SEE YOUR WIFE HAVING THE BEST TIME OF HER LIFE!!! Just cause you have pussy to 'trade' doesn't make you worthy. THAT attitude my friends is what soured us on couples for good.
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Too many posts to read them all, but this seems pretty simple to me. You, the single guy, gets my beautiful lady and I get what?

So...you're wife could say the same thing about a FMF....the other woman gets you, but what does your wife get?

Kind of a selfish attitude there don't ya think?

During our MFM threesomes my husband gets his favorite fantasy fulfilled, watching me receive awesome pleasure .

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This is exactly our point!!! YOU GET TO SEE YOUR WIFE HAVING THE BEST TIME OF HER LIFE!!! Just cause you have pussy to 'trade' doesn't make you worthy. THAT attitude my friends is what soured us on couples for good.
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:05 PM   #203 (permalink)
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You guys need to hang out with more fun couples

Most experienced swinging couples seem a lot less worried about being ‘even’ in our experience. Not long ago I was the 'extra' M for an MFM with good friends of ours, he has been the extra M for us at times, and we still get together for a good old foursome.

Win win win.
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:27 PM   #204 (permalink)
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We pretty much enjoy all scenerios.

Couples are hard because you are trying to get four people to click but oh they are sooooooo fun!! Everyone gets to have sex and you can mix it up in various ways too. Plus, Spoo and I can still get to watch each other have a great time.

We like singles (male or female) because threesomes are just fun which ever way it goes. It is a special treat for your spouse MFM or FMF to get all the attention It fulfills a fantasy for both of us since we both enjoy seeing each other have a great time and lots of pleasure.

So I say mix it up and try it all.

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Old 09-12-2005, 07:20 AM   #205 (permalink)
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We pretty much enjoy all scenerios.

Couples are hard because you are trying to get four people to click but oh they are sooooooo fun!! Everyone gets to have sex and you can mix it up in various ways too. Plus, Spoo and I can still get to watch each other have a great time.

We like singles (male or female) because threesomes are just fun which ever way it goes. It is a special treat for your spouse MFM or FMF to get all the attention It fulfills a fantasy for both of us since we both enjoy seeing each other have a great time and lots of pleasure.

So I say mix it up and try it all.

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Why do y'all live in Ohio? We seemed to be moving in this direction as well...
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Old 09-12-2005, 07:34 AM   #206 (permalink)
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Why do y'all live in Ohio?
Because Texas is just too damn hot

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Old 09-12-2005, 07:32 PM   #207 (permalink)
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Just cause you have pussy to 'trade' doesn't make you worthy. THAT attitude my friends is what soured us on couples for good.
Welllll......I guess you could be talking about moi, since I'm one of those guys who occasionally attends a swing club with a friend that I don't share a deep emotional involvement with. In other words, a "Fuck Buddy."

I'm not doing that in order to "have a pussy to trade." The fact is, there are just some things that are more fun to do if you do them with a friend. Lifestyle events are one of them.

Ultimately, you and the Mrs have to decide who's "worthy" and who's not. If you're main interest is in MFM activities, then having a "pussy to trade" isn't going to be a factor in your decision one way or another. In fact, it might even be a hindrance to me, since my friend may be waiting for a signal from you to get things started.

On the other hand, if a woman is thinking "Hmmmm, yea!" about me, but her male companion isn't into MFM (which most aren't) then the fact that I have a female partner can make a difference. That's assuming that both my partner and the other man are having the same "Hmmmm, yea!" thoughts about each other. That doesn't always happen. It didn't always happen when I was doing this as part of a married couple either.

Nobody knows better than I do, the importance of being married or in an otherwise committed relationship to many couples in the Lifestyle. It was very important to us when I was married. That's why I never make excuses or try to misrepresent our situation at a club. If somebody asks, I'll tell them "We're just friends, here to have a good time. We don't live together. There's no "&" between our first names. She has her own Swappernet profile and club membership card." If they don't ask, we assume it's because it doesn't matter to them, and we proceed at whatever pace is appropriate.

BTW, most couples DO ask, and I think that overall, we're more favorably received because we're there with a companion.

I never regard my companion as "pussy to trade." If I had any "pussy to trade," I'd trade it for a good carpet cleaning or a tank of gas for my SUV, or something else I couldn't find on Match.com.

I hope this clears up the question of why some singles prefer to attend lifestyle functions with a friend.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:28 PM   #208 (permalink)
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For the honorable swinger males it is not about a free sex but a desire to be more intimate with the other party
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Old 09-19-2005, 08:46 AM   #209 (permalink)
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For the honorable swinger males it is not about a free sex but a desire to be more intimate with the other party
I don't know if this is completely true. I have met single guys who are just in it for free sex. They are completely honest about that adnd that does not make them any less honorable then many couples. There is nothing wrong wtih that in my opinon. I am in this to have fun and to have sex. I don't want a relationship, I already have one.

There are a couple of single males in my 'swinging life", one who I message periodically, we have some nice hot conversations and look forward to us all playing together. Hubby knows him and has spoken to him at length and is comfortable with him becuase he is a good guy. The other guy was some quick fun in a hot tub with another friend of mine (female). We all had a blast, I only know his first name, and will probably never lay eyes on him again. Both scenarios are great. I think single males play a part in swinging, it is just up to the couples to determine the type of guy they are looking for and go from there. I treat them the same way I treat looking for couples: do i feel any attraction, do I get any creepy vibes, do I enjoy being around them. If all systems are go then hold on, if not, then move on.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:17 AM   #210 (permalink)
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Hi i'm new to the site and just wanted to add my 2 cents.. I'm a single male, and a moderator at an exhibitionist forum. I see posts all the time just saying basically "Hi, want to cam?" Followed by an IM ID. Sometimes they're posted to everyone as a new thread, or posted in reply to a lady's thread. I just laugh and say to myself "What's this idiot thinking??" That's no better than "Hi, Wanna fuck?" I can see why it's so hard for single males with so many idiots like that out there. It's about communicating and getting to know someone, and SHOWING RESPECT. Hear that guys?? RESPECT!
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