Swinging single females

[ATAK]

Originally posted by OhioCouple
Magic Enigma brings up a very important point. She was there with a host couple who helped introduce her to others. Couples tend to trust another couple's judgements, without much question.

Maybe the answer for clubs would be to charge the single females and males the same amount if they arrive alone. If they come with the endorsement of a host couple who would in essence be responsible for the singles actions (in meaning that if either got out of control, they would be ousted for the evening) then they would receive an equal lesser rate being that of 1/2 the couple charge. After "X" amount of attendance (say 6 visits) and there have been no problems or complaints then they should be charged only the 1/2 rate of a couple, should they want to attend on their own. I would have to think if a single was "sponsored" by another couple, six visits would be ample enough time to have introduced them to others in which they would have become friends.

Just a thought.

Lori

I like that idea, I believe that if a single has the endorsement of a couple, then people at least feel like that single's not going to be pushy or obnoxious. Or at the very least is acceptable to another couple even if they may not be compatible with everyone. I see John's perspective as far as single females are concerned insofar as since clubs are already letting single women in free, why start charging them now?

[FlyBiNiter]

Now, see the compromises that are possible when we all play nice ?

Ok, I like the sponsorship concept a lot. I was thinking as I read that, and it's possible that if a couple sponsors a single guy, they most likely will KNOW that he's worth playing with, so those of us who are interested in a guy would not be stuck weeding through all the wannabes. Hmmm.. double win there !!!

As for the single females getting in for free, I'll just have to learn to cope with the fact that life is unequal, and more people want females than males, so I'll bite my tongue... LOL I'd still like to see guys charged a more reasonable amount, no matter what, and then the free female thing wouldn't bother me half as much.


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[JustAskJulie]

The main thing to think about here and I believe it was brought up in either this thread or the one in Club Questions on "where does your money go", is that Single Females can get laid anywhere. It's also very easy for single females to find 3somes if they so choose. They are in very high demand. It's supply and demand that brings single females into clubs for free.

The couples want them there, the club owners know the couples want them there, so the club owners do whatever it takes to keep the couples happy (because let's face it singles, couples are what swinging is all about).

[Flori_DAMAN]

I gotta agree with the general tone.

First, supply and demand always determines pricing.

Second, swinging is a couples sport.

Third, single guys gotta compare the value per dollar and decide if its really worth it to them in the first place.

john

[EternallySingle]

LOL Clubs trip me out. I was INVITED to join a club that holds a party at a different motel around the Great Lakes a few years back. The single men would be the last ones invited, and the ones that were invited were selected from the single females and couples that were invited first. Seemed fair. The Catch? By the time they knew how many single women and couples would be attending, and how many single men to invite, there was usually only two or three days before the event. It cost $150 to attend (that included a room and breakfast the next morning) and you had to respond 48 hours before hand if you were going. Lucky me, I was told on Friday afternoon that I had to work Saturday and Sunday, so I not only missed going to the club, but my membership was revoked for not showing up and not giving enough advance notice. Hey, I only had 36 hour notice that the party was happening, but everyone else (couples and females) knew months in advance. Anyway, that club was barred from operating in Michigan and the motels that allowed them to party there were closed down or fined.

[JustAskJulie]

I believe I know which club you are referring to. Just like anything you get involved with you have to make sure it's legit, that one wasn't (at least not in my opinion).

There are plenty of legit clubs out there that know how to operate.

[Katt]

Ok here is a new single female perspective to a very intriguing thread.
I have been to a local swingers club a few times, more from curiosity and also I was invited by a male friend who frequents that club with his sometimes mate. I have sat at the bar and been invited by a few couples, but as yet have not made a connection with any of them, usually due to an uncomfortable feeling I have about the male. And I cant recall who said it but sexual aggression from the male, even if he is part of a couple is a HUGE turn off. I would have felt much more comfortable if I truly knew his wife wanted to do this, and not just consent to his getting his rocks off with me. As a heterosexual woman who has been bi-curious for ages, I am interested in both partners
Next weekend I have a friend in town, a "fuck buddy" so to speak. He is very curious about the swingers clubs and wants to go. We may go as a couple, or possibly go with another bi female I am aquainted with, or a couple who have been wanting to get together.
My question to you is thus: are we considered a couple or two singles?? and would that matter to couples?? I have not gone with another couple as I am concerned about personal safety as well, and no one going beyond my own personal limits. This is a big city and there are a lot of scary people out there. WIth a consenting male friend along I fell there is some one "on my side". I know that sounds odd but its how I feel.

(sitting back to see how this can of worms crawls.........)

[EternallySingle]

It all depends on the club. At one club I went to down south if you couldn't prove you were married or living together (part of their screening process) you were both singles and paid 80 bucks to get in (rather, I paid $80, she got in free). At another, just showing up with a woman meant paying the couples rate. Call the club and get clarification on this.

[Ashley]

My boyfriend and I have never encountered this, but maybe it's because we live in the West. I know from experience that the deep South is like another country.

[naughty A]

Originally posted by Katt
I have not gone with another couple as I am concerned about personal safety as well, and no one going beyond my own personal limits. This is a big city and there are a lot of scary people out there.

WOW!

something here really struck a cord for me. I suppose it could be a very real fear that a couple never really has to face. It wouldn't be a fear for me now because I've been in the lifestyle for some time and have always viewed it from the couples perspective but for a single woman starting out... I imagine they have to consider all the possibilities.

[EternallySingle]

Originally posted by FlyBiNiter
Ok.. now let me tell ya the real story.. LOL

I hear everyone go on and on and on about the search for the "elusive single female" and how hard they are to find. I also hear the single males griping about not being wanted. I don't get it. Where we are, single females are a dime a dozen, but a decent single male is next to impossible to find.

That's the Pacific Northwest for you. It was in Tacoma that I began to believe that I could be an active (if not equal) participant in swinging because I was actually approached by couples and single women when I went to different places. I don't know what it is, but I think its a combination of the ocean air, mountains, and almost constant climate (and maybe the rain as well) that makes it more ... acceptable?... for single women in the Northwest to become involved in swinging. I even hooked up with four women I partied with on a regular basis. Of course, I met a fifth who first had me break off contact with the other four, then she screwed with my head for over a year until I kicked her to the curb, but I feel she was the exception. There's always one or two people who have no respect for others and if you let them cloud your vision and think that there are no one worth while from whatever group they claim to represent, you don't cheat anyone but yourself from an opportunity to experience something great.

p.s. I'm still not interested in meeting couples just yet. LOL

[cek]

comment on what ATAK said.
It is about screening out the SCUM.
Me thinks there has to be more than a monitary screening.
Otherwise you may get the obnoxious rich scum
and not the working guy who really cares.
Just some thoughts. However I have know of clubs near the Albany NY area that had some really strict rules and orientation meetings, so when a party happened you were clear about what could and could not be allowed. Also the other posts are right guys, we need to sense how her s/o feels. Often we just focus on the person we are conversing with and ignor everyone esle. can't do that here.
just my thoughts

[shivers68]

i would love to share my insite with you.maybe i'm just a bit rusty or haven't met the right people, but i'm having trouble finding females to share with.would love help finding friends in maryland.

[flirtoftheday]

Hi this is one of my first posts. I was married for 11 years and completely monogamous during that time. After the divorce I had my only "swinging" experience. I am still very flattered by it. I am 38. Thankfully I look and act younger. LOL Anyway this young couple who I had been friends with went out to a local bar and had a really good time. The man (aged 28) told me that him and the woman( age 24) would make me completely forget about my ex. I thought he was screwing around but then when I looked at her she nodded in agreement. I was shocked and flattered and to my own amazement very willing. I was very shy for me. Usually when I am sexual I am very giving and open but this was a completely different situation for me. Anyway I really enjoyed it. I was more reserved than I would have been if it had been a single man . I could not bring myself to have sex with him even though I wanted to. I had never been with a woman and it was a fun experience. I did not have (romantic feelings for her) but it was a forbidden pleasure that I really enjoyed. I am not looking for any kind of "relationship" I have a lot of healing to do but I am very sexual and I was very flattered that a young couple would find me attractive. I know I lokk younger but they actually knew how old I was. Anyway thanks for letting me vent some of this. I am really pleased with the intelligent conversations that I have read.

[Karmickiss]

Hello there, this is my first time posting at all on this site, that I feel I rather fatefully stumbled into...and thought, well,why not, this is ultimately a better place to go than any resource I have available to me at this time. I am a bi-sexual female, who ended a long-term relationship with a man about a year ago, and have gone through the preliminary nightmares of the tough initiation back into the dating field....yikes. I am interested in whole idea of being able to live in an open minded and safe way, and feel like I have something to offer at this point in my life. I am making decisions in my life today courageously, b/c I am at least sure of what I don't want, and what I do want is simple and sincere.
I adore women, and men, but most of all I adore being with trustworthy, sincere and adventurous people. I feel as if I'm entering the prime of life, if only b/c I feel I know how to appreciate a good thing, and am exactly as I seem.
However,I do tend to have this feeling of "junior high" nervousness around people I'm attracted to, being a bit shy until I get to know someone better. At the same time I know I am a very sensual, and passionate person, and feel like I have very little out-let for that, and this is what is frustrating to me right now. I am someone that believes that man or woman,when the "right one" or relationship material comes along, it will come naturally, and I don't want to rush or force such things.Yet, it does get lonely.......
Well, enough out of me,I am here more to learn what I can, I wish everyone the best.