Swinging single females

[Flori_DAMAN]

ATAK

Gimme a break! I spent over 70 bux on my last date. Dinner alone was 55.

Clubs need to cater to couples. Topless bars cater to single males. Which is cheaper? The last topless bar I went to (a few years ago), wanted 3 dollars for a pepsi!

Instead of comparing yourself to couples or single females compare the price of visiting a club to the amount of fullfillment you get out of it.

Its the ole adage "you get what you pay for".

If I went to a club as a single male the last thing I would worry about is the cost to get in.

The difference between a single and a couple is maybe 30%. Couples don't get in free ya know.

Its well worth it to allow you to be a member of an exclusive group of single males. Just remember that if they just let you pay 20 bux to get in you would have no club to go to!

It would close down in a week cuz the couples would be swarmed.

John

[ATAK]

Originally posted by Flori_DAMAN
ATAK

Gimme a break! I spent over 70 bux on my last date. Dinner alone was 55.

Clubs need to cater to couples. Topless bars cater to single males. Which is cheaper? The last topless bar I went to (a few years ago), wanted 3 dollars for a pepsi!

Instead of comparing yourself to couples or single females compare the price of visiting a club to the amount of fullfillment you get out of it.

Its the ole adage "you get what you pay for".

If I went to a club as a single male the last thing I would worry about is the cost to get in.

The difference between a single and a couple is maybe 30%. Couples don't get in free ya know.

Its well worth it to allow you to be a member of an exclusive group of single males. Just remember that if they just let you pay 20 bux to get in you would have no club to go to!

It would close down in a week cuz the couples would be swarmed.

John

Well, where to begin....

The cost of a date varies from who you're taking out to where you live. The last date I went out on cost about $25 dinner and all. On the other extreme, I've spent as much as $125 on the same kind of date to a fancier restaurant which was 2 hours drive from here. So it depends greatly on whether you're taking out someone who likes McDonalds, or someone who likes Olive Garden.

I've never been to a lifestyle club, so I can only speak from an abstract perspective, but to classify topless bars with lifestyle clubs seems a bit rash considering that at a lifestyle club, you intend to hook up with single/couples for sex. It's not always the case, but I'd imagine more often than not, that's the reason they're there. On the other hand, at a topless bar, you cannot "buy" the girl and have sex with her, therefore, there's a huge difference between looking and being invited to participate.
The last time I went to a topless bar, which was last Friday night, I spent a grand total of $22 including cover charge, cokes and a table dance.

As I stated before in my previous post, I understand the desire to weed out the undesirables which necessitates the enormous entrance fee, but still, I'd rather spend my $100 on a date with a lady I've met outside a club, than to use it as a cover charge to get into a club where I know no one.

"an exclusive group of single males"....seems to me that even undesireables have lots of money. Sometimes the MOST undesirables have the most money. Can they simply buy their way in too? So much for the elitist status...

[Flori_DAMAN]

Originally posted by ATAK


"an exclusive group of single males"....seems to me that even undesireables have lots of money. Sometimes the MOST undesirables have the most money. Can they simply buy their way in too? So much for the elitist status...

You spent money in a topless bar. What did you get?

If you consider the fact that you are the least undesirable at the swingers club you may get more than you hoped for.

Yeah, you need to demostrate that you have money.

The couples that swing are not low income types.

I would gander that the typical swinging couple has income in the 50-100k range.

While you pittle away your money at topless joints with no hope of having sex you could save that up and try a swingers club.

Personally I am going to go to the nicest whore place in town tomorrow and drop a lot more than I should.

I am going to bring my t-shirt and ask them to pose for a picture of me with them.

I haven't had sex in 4 months. ANd that sex was with my now past lover of 4 years.

So this guy is gonna get his rocks off but ya know something.

Swingers don't care if you come or not.

They care if you are there at the right time.

Rightfully so.

Until I can find a swinging mate I'm just gonna go the safe route.

Im gonna pay for it and enjoy what I can get.

I cannot fool a female. Everyone that I date wants to know my past.

When I bring it up I get blown out of the water.

I have followed the advice of my lady friends on here.

They tell me to just not bring it up.

I cannot lie.

WHen the question of my past comes up swinging is a huge part.

How should I lie or delete pertinent facts?.

I hope to god that you never lose your partners to death.

I have made love to well over two hundred females.

Do you think it is easy for me to live on this board and have NO sex?

I never cheated on any female that I have ever been committed to.

I would never cheat with anyones wife.

I just plain need sex.

I won't go to a club in this condition.

I'm gonna get me the cutest gal in the whorehouse and fuck her till I cant do it anymore.

I have started conversations with many wifes on this board.

They and there husbands have supported me through my most recent set back.

I appreciate every one of you. Honest.

But I need to get laid.

I'm gonna get laid.

I will protect myself of course but its just gotta happen and happen NOW.

You will love the pic though.

John is too horney to think any other way.

[ATAK]

Originally posted by Flori_DAMAN
You spent money in a topless bar. What did you get?

I got in, got a coke and a table dance. But moreover, I got what I came to get....entertainment. I got to stare at boobs for a couple of hours without having to wine or dine anybody, and without the headgames that go along with most relationships. My intention was not to get laid, I know that's not gonna happen, but I can go, relax, see a couple of friends, and go home. That's what I go for. Not to solicit sex.

I will save up enough money to go to a swinger's club at least one time simply because I have not been. I do want to see what that's about, and I may change my mind about it, but not seeing any great benefit from the outside looking in, on the whole I'd rather spend that money somewhere else.

The couples that swing are not low income types.

I would gander that the typical swinging couple has income in the 50-100k range.

So that means that anyone who doesn't make that kind of money can't swing? Of course not, your lifestyle shouldn't control your money, but more often than not, your money controls your lifestyle. Just be tolerant of us po folks.

[FlyBiNiter]

So, let me get this straight...

Here we are in the 21st century, an age of sexual equality and freedom, and men are paying 100 or more dollars for something that a woman can get for free ??? Now, before anyone jumps my ass for my opinion on this, I DO understand what the clubs THINK they are accomplishing by charging guys more, but the fact is, charging more doesn't assure a better quality of man. It's all about SCREENING people !!! If the guy is an asshole, he's not gonna be a good boy just because you drain his wallet dry !!! Oh, and that single woman you just let in for free ? Well, just because she didn't have to pay, does that guarantee that she's not some 2 dollar whore, out to cause a problem between a husband and his wife ??? NO !!! The only way you can be sure you are weeding out the rotten apples is to screen them, and keep on screening them. If you let em in and they act like a jerk, kick em out the FIRST time, with no appeal. I know someone's bound to get all pissy about my comments, but ya know what ? I just don't think that a single person should be penalized for having a penis. The only penalty should be as a result of BEHAVIOR. Give em a chance to prove themselves before you punish them.


Just MY opinion.

:evil:

[ATAK]

Exactly what I was trying to say, thank you.

[Roxysbayou]

We have found a wonderful off premise (which I personally prefer)club in Mississippi. They only allow 6 single guys in the club at any given time. The guys must stay at the bar until a couple invites them to a table or unless someone asks them to dance. I know the guys out there will probably disagree, but I think this is great! I can't stand feeling pressured by some guy following me around or what have you. I would end up leaving the club if that happened, and probably wouldn't go back. I am there to enjoy myself, and should not have to put up with that kind of behavior.
As far as strip clubs go, my husband and I do enjoy them from time to time. I always find that the girls go out of their way to make me feel welcome. And it's not always about getting sex from someone else. Its about the seduction, and the excitement level that is achieved between us, just by thinking about swinging. I will say I have never been to a strip club where we could come out spending less than $50. So, the cost between the strip club vs the swing club is about the same. At least where I am .

[ATAK]

This is the kind of screening I'm talking about. In order to keep hundreds of single men from entering a couples-club at a time, limit them to the bar and have them enter the couples area by invitation only, and at the first hint of problems, ask them to leave for the evening, or perhaps the week, if they come back and continue to cause problems, ban them permanently. Money is not the issue as much as the quality of people you are allowing in.

[OhioCouple]

Originally posted by FlyBiNiter
......the fact is, charging more doesn't assure a better quality of man. It's all about SCREENING people !!!

EXACTLY!!! I agree with your entire posting.

Lori

[Vjklander]

I would definitely not combine Swinging single females and Swinging single males in one thread. Totally different.
We don't do swing clubs, way to cliquey, and we're not into anonymous fucks. BDSM clubs are kewl though.
We have met with couples, single males and single females, had fun with all.
I really don't understand the 'problem' with single guys. The ones we've met have all been kewl. But then. I'm an inveterate voyeur anyway
J

[OhioCouple]

Originally posted by Vjklander

We don't do swing clubs, way to cliquey, and we're not into anonymous fucks. BDSM clubs are kewl though.

BDSM's don't fuck anonymously and aren't cliquish? Something about all of that just doesn't 'click' with me. Or it could just be the area we live in that thrives on new and anonymous adventures? Not to mention they play in established groups.

Lori

[Ashley]

If I were going to swing as a single female, I would find a couple to go with.....just wouldn't feel safe otherwise. If I was going to approach a man who was part of a couple, I would try to seduce his wife first....if she's het she's going to be too threatened to let you fuck her man.

[Flori_DAMAN]

Originally posted by Vjklander
I would definitely not combine Swinging single females and Swinging single males in one thread. Totally different.
We don't do swing clubs, way to cliquey, and we're not into anonymous fucks. BDSM clubs are kewl though.
We have met with couples, single males and single females, had fun with all.
I really don't understand the 'problem' with single guys. The ones we've met have all been kewl. But then. I'm an inveterate voyeur anyway
J

You made a statement in there somewhere.

Oh yeah. You said you would not combine swinging females and swinging males on one thread.

Other than saying "totally different", you gave no reason, OH YEAH you said "totally different". Do you mean like guys got dicks and females got tits?

And why are BDSM clubs cool?

And one more thing. Maybe you misspelled it but what does inverterate mean?

It almost seems like you are trying to make a point here, I just want to get it.

John

[Flori_DAMAN]

Single males have a tough row to hoe.

That is the facts of life.

If you plan on screwing other peoples wives you'd better be over the top of the average single guys repetoire, or at least have something.

CMON MEN!

You are talking about having sex with the most loved thing in a mans life!

If you think you are being OVERCHARGED then you are off on the wrong foot now.


How much would the average man CHARGE to have his LOVE screwed??

Haven't you seen (damn what was that movie called?)

ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

You bitch about paying 100 bucks to have a shot at it.

Disgusting.

This is why single males are abhorred.

They have no idea how valuable the WIFE is!!

Get a grip single fellas and realize that if it cost you 1000.00 to go to one swingers party you would be getting more than you deserve for the money.

If you compare yourselves to single females you are comparing apples to oranges.

John.

[ATAK]

John, I appreciate your position and I hear what you are saying, however, I've been married before and I do understand the value of a wife. She did not subscribe to the philosophy of swinging, and I respected that.

What I fail to understand is the difference between a man wanting to have sex with another man's wife, and that wife wanting to have sex with a man outside the marriage. Should the wife, then have to pay $100 a pop to go to a club and have sex with a single guy? Or for that matter, a single woman? The point is that the playing field is not level for all the participants.

As I've said before, I'll try the club thing once or twice just to see what it's all about, and I may still change my mind once I go, but for now, I can't see an enormous benefit of meeting at a swing club versus meeting at a straight club. The end result would be the same and it wouldn't cost near as much.