why does Swingers meets cost so much for single males

[Alura]

Well, I don't know, Tribbles. Since the PM related to the thread and was unsolicited, I felt it's rightful place was in the thread. His remark about "following up" seemed to be an invitation to answer his remarks on the board. I also wanted to discourage unsolicited direct contact from this OP. If I'm wrong, I'll be glad to remove it. Perhaps I've missed this issue in the rules of proper behavior, or read it so long ago that' I've forgotten it, for which I'll take full responsibility.

Mr. Alura

[cracker0jack]

First of all, all i did was to make them aware of what was going on, since they seemed to have such a big interest in the topic, and have yet to make a post after I clarified the situation. Isn't that was a PM is a PRIVATE MESSAGE. Its not like I bashed them for something, but it was her who said that I was "Cheating" so do I not have a right to clarify this???

Second.... Would someone show me where the in the lifestyle that it says you have to be husband and wife??? I guess two females aren't welcome either. or a single female, and maybe she is bi? Let me make sure that I understand this right. I truely thought that it was about people who had a commom interest, and friendship, but hell I'm an OP so what do I know...

[i]"In my opinion, as well as Mrs. Alura's, there is no such thing as a "legitmate" single male in swinging. If you don't have a wife, whom you love dearly, to bring to the party, you are not going to get the opportunity to play with my wife, who means the world to me. (She will make sure of that.) "Close female friends" do not qualify.


So what you are saying ONLY husband and wife????? Dude, I think that you just stepped on the toes of alot of people here....

And about playing with you wife... I do have certain standards, and neither one of you quailify...

[Alura]

We quit posting because we lost interest in the thread. The whole thread really means nothing to us.

Yes, we are saying ONLY husband and wife. For us. As we pointed out, everybody is free to set their own rules. Including ourselves. Including you. Including clubs. Including turnpikes.

CrackerOjack wrote:

And about playing with you[r] wife... I do have certain standards, and neither one of you quailify...

The story of my life... I shall saddle my horse, ride to the top of the ridge and stare reflectingly into the sunset. There I will take my face in my hands and cry bitter tears onto the brim of my cowboy hat. It needs reshaping. Thank you.

Mr. Alura

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by Alura

Yes, we are saying ONLY husband and wife. For us. As we pointed out, everybody is free to set their own rules. Including ourselves. Including you. Including clubs. Including turnpikes.

I think this is a fair statement and would say that no one really has any reason to get their nose out of joint about it - since Alura is allowing for the fact that everyone makes their own rules in the lifestyle. It would be just as legitimate for someone to say that swinging involves one husband, his wife and a bowl of Jello Whip...

I don't see it as stepping on toes - I see it as clarifying his opinion on the matter.

Spoomonkey

[Thrax]

Originally Posted by Alura

The story of my life... I shall saddle my horse, ride to the top of the ridge and stare reflectingly into the sunset. There I will take my face in my hands and cry bitter tears onto the brim of my cowboy hat. It needs reshaping. Thank you.

If you stare "reflectingly" into the sun, you could go blind (...in my experience there are more pleasant, however lonely, methods ). You meant "reflectively", maybe, or "in reflection"?

Yeah, I'm a single male. And another reason that that's the case is that I can't quit this grammar/spelling correcting thing. (I should reflect on that...) I know what you meant, but I still couldn't help myself.

Dammit! Now my eyes are burning!

Thrax

[Thrax]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

It would be just a(s) legitimate for someone to say that swinging involves one husband, his wife and a bowl of Jello Whip...

Okay, after my trip to Shop 'n' Save today I'm two out of three here.

Just one more thing...

Thrax

[Alura]

What do you expect from an old, broken-down cowboy, Thrax? Good English?

Can't you imagine my teary eyes reflecting the gold of the sunset? Unfortunately, we've not seen many sunsets lately. That's why many of my neighbors are swimming out of their neighborhoods.

Help yourself to correcting my English, by the way. My Okie is perfect, tho!


Mr. Alura

[Thrax]

Originally Posted by Alura

Help yourself to correcting my English, by the way. My Okie is perfect, tho!

And your Deutsch seems to be okay, too, from what I've read. I won't get NEAR that!



Thrax

[twoforone100]

Cracker The clubs in va won't let single guys in all. Perhaps you are lucky that they let you in. Most house parties don't have single guys. Some do but they are usually well know to all. Perhaps you should start you own swing club. Let in lots of single guys and see how many couples want to come out. Perhaps there is a great need for this. Patrick Pattie

[bamaguy71]

Do like I do bring a lady with that way ur a cpl....I bring a single lady that I play with....

[midnightplayer]

It is not uncommon for sgls to pay more for everything compared to couples. Take cruises for example. You as a single pay more for cabins. Sgle males have, lets say a reputation that proceeds them. We, as singles, pay a big price for the rudness of other men before us. Some of us can be the best thing since sliced bread, but we need to prove that to the unknowning couples. If we need to pay the extra amount to entere a meet and greet so be it. If you can't pay, maybe you shouldn't play. Nobody wants to be stupid with their money, but no one wants to be around someone who is cheap.
If we are polite, considerate, pay attention to the males of the couple instead of looking at his wife as if she was naked, they, couples, might be polite back and hark, might even invite the single for a second "interview" and might just lead to some fun for all. Sgle males need to get realistic and realize; "it is what it is" and not try to re-invent the wheel. Just a thought

[2chase3]

Crackojack,

Im just curious and by no means questioning your reasoning, But if you are a single male why would you be interested in a couple swing party to begin with?

Single men interested in mingling with other couples,which is a whole other topic in its self,

To pay 70 bucks to get into a club when I was single would have been laughable."And your gonna tag me like some orphaned baby seal?? ..Nu UH!!.."

I believe the reasoning guys think since swingers are sexually open,I am bound to get laid..lol.this is so far from the truth...Sure there are females sexually open in swinging but keep in mind that woman is bound to a man,which might not see your intentions as equally erotic .

Being single was a sexual adventure in its own rite for me personally. Has it changed that dramaticly over the last 7 years? I couldnt imagine it has.

Hell ,start your own singles swing parties. Remember the fried chicken and porno club? If you are even somwhat social in your area, local pubs,clubs etc. you would be surprised how many women you could intice to participate once word got out your house parties were sexually themed.. curiousity killed the cat my friend.

Goodluck in all your adventures.

[Thrax]

Originally Posted by 2chase3

Crackojack,

Im just curious and by no means questioning your reasoning, But if you are a single male why would you be interested in a couple swing party to begin with?

Even though all the swing parties (clubs, house parties, campouts, etc.) I've been to have been mostly couples, they have always allowed single females, and at least one single male (obviously, since I attended). Hasn't really been an issue for me. I accept the single male restricted admittance and sometimes higher entry fee, and if it's a couples-only party, then I can't go. No problem. But still, if I have the time and the money to attend a swing party -- and I am welcomed to it -- be sure as snow is white that I'd go.

I can't speak for Cracker0Jack, but I go to those parties because they are usually interesting and allow me to engage in non-vanilla recreational sex.

And that's tons o' fun.

Being single was a sexual adventure in its own rite for me personally...

I agree that being single is a sexual adventure, but that's one path. A single male who is able to participate in the swinging world is definitely not on quite the same path as the single male in the vanilla world, or is jumping from path to path.

To paraphrase Robert Frost: “Two paths diverged in a wood and I, I took the one less travelled by, and then jumped back to the more frequented path, but then back to the less travelled one, that was exceptionally cool, but then I ran back to the original path, had a hot time, but saw an interesting commotion on the other path, so, back I went, and then...

Well anyway, that has made all the difference.”

Some guys are just born to be poets.

Not me, obviously.

Anyway, as a single male, most of my sexual experience has been in the vanilla dating scene and relationships that grew from that. But over the past seven years, since I decided to try this swinging path occasionally, I've experienced some things that would be EXTREMELY unlikely for me to enjoy in the vanilla sexual world. So, I try to keep in touch...



Thrax